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Mechanicum Taghmata Support Cadre looks good.


It's too bad FW hasn't come around to make the AL terminator special unit yet, I would totally buy that deal.

beast_gts wrote:
There's some new "Support Cadre" Bundles up as well - with some savings.

Nice looking. Just happen to have £120 odd quid burning a hole in my pocket. Then I get clobbered for the postage tax. Dammit.

Ashiraya wrote:So I just ordered a book that will be out of date shortly?

That sucks.

Well, I cancelled it.

Edit: Or should I? I am confused now. Are we getting a new Crusade army list or not?

Azreal13 wrote:I don't know anymore!

No you were correct. I spoke to Andy Hoare and Alan Bligh at the Weekender and they confirmed that there is a new Crusade book, with the generic Legion units on the way. It was getting printed around the time of the weekener so it shouldn't be too far off.

The only units I was told about that were getting changes were Assault marines and Destroyers. Both getting massive point reductions.

The only unit I know thats not getting changed are Breachers.

 Nordicus wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
Together with this and the Crusade army list, we have everything up to date, if I understood it correctly?

Aye, everything should be up to date with these two books

Not 100% true. I belive Book 6 added new Rites of War, updated the vindicator rules (With them now in squarons), added that legion interceptor and made a unit entry specific for Quad Gun Rapiers with all the new ammo types.

I haven't gotten around to getting book 6 yet, but I am planning on it since I'm interesting in Iron Fire and Armoured Break thru.

What then complicates things more in that some of the new rites of war in book 6 requires you to take units and/or allies from the Milita/Cult Army list. For this army list you need to the buy book 5 or wait for the imperial army red book that is next up now that we got the new age of darkness redbook.

SOOOO still no Badab update then. Got it

I emailed FW about 3 weeks ago re: IA 8 update possibilities.
No reply as yet

Thamor wrote:
No you were correct. I spoke to Andy Hoare and Alan Bligh at the Weekender and they confirmed that there is a new Crusade book, with the generic Legion units on the way. It was getting printed around the time of the weekener so it shouldn't be too far off.

The only units I was told about that were getting changes were Assault marines and Destroyers. Both getting massive point reductions.

The only unit I know thats not getting changed are Breachers.

Ooooo...Destroyers. I heard about Assault squads getting a points cut, but not them. That could influence future purchases, depending on how they sort out...

Yes, assault squad point reductions! Yeees!

Looks like those new bundles do actually have some savings. At least, the WE one I priced and its saves you £10 to buy the bundle. Sadly, I saw what was in it and was like "pass".

£11 saved on the Solar Auxilia bundle, though yeah, the contents aren't that stellar sadly.

Though one can never have enough Veletaris these days!

 gorgon wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
So I just ordered a book that will be out of date shortly?

That sucks.

Well, I cancelled it.

Edit: Or should I? I am confused now. Are we getting a new Crusade army list or not?

Yes...in a couple months.

It's possible that they will create errata for the changes so that you don't need to buy the updated version. But I don't think anyone knows for sure.

We are, and this legion rules book we very much needed. A suggestion would be to look at what was mentioned from the GW events in the uk as there's a lot out there no need to rush and regret.

Well the FAQ seems to cover most of the obvious changes incoming (except points).

So my guess is that they are not going to do a Legion one - you'll have to buy the new book to get your legion specific changes.


The current FAQ is a stop gap for at least a couple of months until the new Marine book is out , which I assume would have points changes in it .

I'd hang off on the Space Marine book until the reprint.

I'm not sure if the new crusade army list book will be updated as soon as some people think. We were shown the cover for the imperial army book. (Solar aux, milita, knights)

I understood from what was posted we are getting this before the new crusade red book.

Can't even get to the FW site right now.

Anyway, these red books are too confusing. I'll wait 'til a special edition that bundles them in with a main book comes along, just like last time.

FW Shadowsword Arcadian Pattern is sold out:

Regarding the 'rules only' HH books, I get why they're doing them without actually having finished the war...but as a consumer it's kind of annoying.

I think, I might wait for the completion of the HH as far as FW is concerned (the massive books) and THEN get the rules versions (chances are they'll update at least ONCE more before they're done). Because I've already made the mistake of purchasing rules from FW only to have a re-release with an update (looks at Vraks books).

 Frankenberry wrote:


I think, I might wait for the completion of the HH as far as FW is concerned (the massive books) and THEN get the rules versions (chances are they'll update at least ONCE more before they're done).

That could be 10 years from now

Fw are doing what gw main does, releases new books, I for one am applauding them for actually FIXING units that don't work and making the effort.

I'm just slightly disappointed they're still red. I kinda want my only red book to be the Mechanicum one. For theme.
Oh well, maybe there will be a special limited edition of book VII that includes a slipcase for books V and VI as well as black editions of the new generic legion list and the updated legion-specific list to include units from said Book VII?
That would be nice.

 Formosa wrote:
Fw are doing what gw main does, releases new books, I for one am applauding them for actually FIXING units that don't work and making the effort.

A small but crucial distinction! I've no issue with replacing a book of rules every few years if the replacement actually serves to improve on its predecessor and not just make a bunch of arbitrary changes generated from Jervis' big D666 table o' rules.

I don't mind the red books - it's much easier on the wallet to buy two rules-only books for $50/each than a bunch of massive fluff-and-rules books for $110/each when you're on a budget.

Besides the updates to the units, does this book contain the new rites of war?

 Yaraton wrote:
FW Shadowsword Arcadian Pattern is sold out:

Spoiler:

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Makes sense. The Arcadian pattern upgrades were basically a stopgap conversion kit, using the new (at the time) plastic baneblade as a base to reduce both cost and price of the shadowsword kit. It did replace the cool old one with the full interior, but was made obsolete when GW made their own plastic model by adding a few sprues to the baneblade kit alongside with the release of the Stompa (now if they will just add a couple sprues to the stompa kit to add some more options like alternate heads, a belly gun, and other parts to make a Big Mek Stompa, I'd be OK with a price bump to $160 to match the Baneblade/Tess Ark/Lord of Skulls)

If GW made plastic versions of some other hybrid kits FW has right now, I'd expect them to disappear as well, things like the Vulture which borrows parts of the valkyrie, or maybe even some of the Deimos pattern marine vehicles if GW does a plastic kit of those (though that would probably take longer)

When did GW rename it from Arkurion to Arcadian?

 teban wrote:
Besides the updates to the units, does this book contain the new rites of war?

I don't think so, no. As far as I know, it doesn't have anything from book 6 in there.

More heavy weapons ... https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-DE/blog/blog.jsp?_requestid=899530

Dat Volkite doe! And that AC! Man, those look sharp!

Nice!

That AC is much better than the costing one with the super fiddly cable that attaches to the backpack

That Volkite could be used as Kakophoni/Noise Marines (if you dont want to buy the models)

Wonder if that Volkite would be big enough to mount on a MkIV dreadnought (Brick one)