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**Ahtman**

You may chastise the US for calling the game soccer, but it is your word! So now you must toil and gnash your teeth at your self, at least that is what this articlesays!

**George Spiggott**

Last I checked the language is called English. They're all our words. You're just using them wrong.

**HellsGuardian316**

Couldn't have said it better myself

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

Yeah we already know

From aSOCCiation football to distinguish the game from RUGBY football (note Rugger and not that weird thing Americans play, so

again

)

To be fair I don't really understand why anyone should complain, as it is a term used here.

**Ahtman**

George Spiggott wrote:Last I checked the language is called English. They're all our words. You're just using them wrong.

We are using the word as you intended. Soccer is an English (as in England) word that means the same things as Football. So in getting on one's high horse about it being used is a bit silly, as you in effect dogging yourself.

**whatwhat**

I think the issue for British people with the word soccer. Has less to do with it being the wrong word for the sport. And more to do with Soccer being used by Americans to differentiate from a game, american "football, " in which you hardly use your feet. And that if any game out of the two needs to be refereed to differently to avoid confusion, it shouldn't be football (soccer), it should be the game which the name suits least.

For example it's a bit arrogant when an American, when in conversation with an Englishman, expects the Englishman to drop the name 'football' for their game, and yet continue to use it for their own.

**drukawski**

Some famous English guy once wrote "That which we call a rose, by any other name, would smell as sweet."
Pretty smart guy that Brit...

**Wolf**

George Spiggott wrote:Last I checked the language is called English. They're all our words. You're just using them wrong.

Agreed, couldnt say it any better

**sebster**

You're all wrong anyway. This is football;

**George Spiggott**

Ahtman wrote:We are using the word as you intended. Soccer is an English (as in England) word that means the same things as Football.

Yes, but we've stopped using it now. You need to keep up with the latest trends.

I assure you that I am not 'dogging' you, unless this is another fine English word you are misusing.

**Ahtman**

George Spiggott wrote:
Ahtman wrote:We are using the word as you intended. Soccer is an English (as in England) word that means the same things as Football.
Yes, but we've stopped using it now.

According to the Englishman in the article, that isn't true at all. While it may not be the most common use, it isn't completely out of use either. You probably also shouldn't take credit for a language that you didn't invent. "English" isn't yours, it was created by people a long time before we were born. Next you'll take credit for inventing eggs becuase you made eggs for breakfast once.

**George Spiggott**

Ahtman wrote:According to the Englishman in the article, that isn't true at all.

Clearly some sort of test is required to determine whom is the most English. My credentials are that I carry a brolly and own a pith helmet. What are the credentials of this ex-pat that's lived in the US for 40 odd years eh?

**paulguise**

I thought it was spelled "futbol"? Or is that just another country's spelling.

Anyways, not to sound too much like an a$$hat, but if I read one article related to particle physics, does that make me an expert on the subject?

I ask because it seems that you, Ahtman, just read the one article you pointed out. Have you any others to support your argument or to expand on your argument?

Also, and this may be me being thick, but what exactly is your point with this vociferation? Are we discussing the subtle differences between dialects of English?

Also, I have a pith helmet, and would like to be included in all conversation where this is a requirement.

Cheers

Edit: I would not call anything coming from Yahoo! News a reliable source, unless of course they site Google as a fact source.

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

Soccer is still in use here.
Futbol is Spanish

My grandfather had a pith helmet, he used to keep it under the bed to p...
oh lordi, who ever said the old jokes are the best was ever so wrong

**Kid_Kyoto**

George Spiggott wrote:Last I checked the language is called English. They're all our words. You're just using them wrong.

Ain't no such country as 'England' and we don't call it United Kingdomish.

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

Northern Virginia. Isn't that a tabacco factory in Canada?

You are obviously not living in the state of Virgina, more a state of ignorance.

**ShumaGorath**

We have a larger population and economy, therefore our words are the truthiest.

**chromedog**

Truth be told, the English didn't invent English. It's a language made up of many 'borrowed' and just as many stolen words.

They followed other languages down dark london alleys and beat them unconscious before stealing their words.

**reds8n**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Ain't no such country as 'England'

..where the hell do I live !?

http://www.holymoly.com/celebrity-news/random/obligatory-youtube-clip47417

**Erasoketa**

"Fútbol" is the Spanish adaptation of Football.

You can't call football a game where only kick the ball a couple of times and you play with your hands

**mattyrm**

Damned colonial heathens!

**jp400**

Yeah, cause you English chaps use the language SO well eh?

Seriously, how do you people stay on the road and not crash from laughing so hard?!?

**Talizvar**

Really now, since that nasty tea party, the USA has given up comparing dictionary notes with the U.K. a long time ago.
I find it bad enough various spell checkers try to correct me on Canadian spelling that is different from the U.S.A.

The comment of "tobacco factory in Canada" will need some form of revenge at a later date...

Simply stated, we like our football/rugby-like game. We do not seem to have some special alternative name, so we are stuck with football being soccer.
The only thing that can cause the irritating "holier than thou" attitudes is the mistaken belief we all use the same "Queen's English". No, no we don't.

On a side note, I found the language spoken in Virginia of a similarly garbled version like spoken in our Newfoundland or "the rock" as we call it.

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

Wow.
I never realised how poorly we use our own dear language until seeing those digitally altered road signs.

How about this
Yank vb. to JERK

(only teasing, no actaul offence intended - before you guys start bombarding me with patriotic fervour!

)

tobacco factory in Canada" will need some form of revenge at a later date...

Nah. Was just pulling Kid Kyoto's leg over his appalling geography

**Talizvar**

tobacco factory in Canada" will need some form of revenge at a later date...

Just wondering why a Canadian would take umbrage.

Either that we are capable of umbrage or taking umbrage of Virginia being confused with any part of Canada?
You go to Virginia sometime, then you would understand.

You must also remember that part of the Canadian identity is to consume USA products and TV but vigorously defend how separate and different we are from them.

I am on the hairy edge of angering more groups, I suppose I should mention the French in some derogatory way as well...

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

Okay
Was definitely not confusing the two Talizvar.

Was suggesting to a North Virginian who had stated there is no country of England that it is just as silly as confusing his state with somewhere else.

Canada cos it's north and not the USA

Virginia famous for its 'baccy

hence tabaccco factory in Canada.

**Albatross**

The origins of the word 'soccer' are not unknown to people who know anything about 'soccer'.

Yes, it's 'our' word. We don't use it anymore. We also don't say 'forsooth', 'Zounds' or 'I'faith' anymore.

Feel free to use those by the way.

Also, what is with this whole 'HA! Take THAT you snooty Brits!' attitude? Why do the Yanks always seem to want to try and get one over on us? It's like they have a chip on their shoulder about us or something. It's weird. I'd never experienced it before I started using this website, but it definitely seems to be a 'thing'.

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

Odds' bodkins Albatross, soccer is still used, just not as much as it used to be.
Not at all since the Germany game.

Okay, fair point

**reds8n**

Albatross wrote: We also don't say 'forsooth', 'Zounds'

...

...man am I not in with the younger generations anymore.

I don't think Mr. Ahtman was being deadly serious.

He's actually one of our 5th columnists anyway.

**Frazzled**

George Spiggott wrote:Last I checked the language is called English. They're all our words. You're just using them wrong.

Incorrect, half your words are French or Latin derivatives. Half the words here are not English, but french and Spanish with a good bit of Asian languages thrown in.