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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/04 05:33:42
Subject: Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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It's nice to actually be able to POST here, for once. Great site, and a lot of friendly people, I see. Good to finally be a part of it.
However, despite being new to Dakka, I'm not completely new to 40k. I've been playing Guard for a few months now and have a 1750 Point army with a few tanks, but mostly infantry. I've used Dakka Dakka a bit for entertainment and greenstuff tutorials, but I've signed up because I have a few questions that, despite playing for a few months, I haven't had time to get answered. (Also, if anyone has a better forum section for this, please tell me.  )
1. Blob Guard W/ Commissar. I've heard people talking about it, but I don't know how it works in the official rules... I assume it's just three or some odd infantry squads in close proximity to an attached Commissar, but some of the wording has me just a bit confused as to whether or not it's three squads separately, or one big squad. It DOES seem useful, though.
2. Krak Grenades. I've read the rulebook cover to cover, (not that I remember any of it) but I have no idea how they work as given to soldiers via the Infantry Squad upgrade. Are they just demo-charges, but using the Krak Grenade's stats from the Grenade Launcher?
3. Pindle mounted weapons. I know they're supposed to be mounted on the hatch of whatever vehicle they're on, but I took some liberties with that knowing an open-hatched vehicle is easier to destroy. I glued the weapons on the side of the turrets instead. Nobody has called me on it, but recently I've been wondering how legal this is.
4. Troop Organization as applies to Imperial Guard. I know the Force Organization thingy okay, but the thing that confuses me is the Infantry Platoon. Does that entire conglomerate count as ONE Troop, while Vet squads and such count as more? Or how does it really work? I've got a Platoon Command Squad, but would they be fielded better as a Company Command Squad, with everyone else as Veterans? Or would that prevent my use of Heavy Weapons Squads?
5. Last question. What are Vox Operators good for, other than looking really cool?
Sorry to be like "Hey, I'm new, Answer these kthx", but this seems like the best way to get my questions answered. Thanks for any input.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/04 06:02:15
Subject: Re:Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Welcome to Dakka, I'm a noob to this forum as well but I can answer your 40k questions.
1. You take the 2-5 Infantry Platoon Squads and utilize their special rule that allows them to combine squads so effectively you'd have a 20 to 50 man squad, then you take a commissar in one of them and they all get the Stubborn special rule as well as allow you to re-roll morale tests with the cost of basicly a sergant or a regular trooper if you don't have any left. This makes them better than Fearless troops and almost guarentees that your opponent has to wipe out every single model in the unit.
2. Krak Grenades are used in close combat against vehicles and count as a single attack (regardless of charging) at strength 6.
3. Pintles don't make your vehicle open-topped so put the trooper up there, it doesn't make a bit of difference but (imo) makes the vehicle look better.
4. The Troop Organization you are speaking of applies soley to Infantry Squads. They are the only way for you to take Platoon Command Squads, Special Weapon Teams, Heavy Weapon Teams, and Conscripts but that whole list there counts as only a single troop choice on the Force Organization Chart. That 2-5 means you MUST take at least 2 Infantry Platoon Squads and the 1 for Platoon Command Squad means you MUST take one but only one while the ones listed as 0-5 or 0-X mean that you don't have to take them. Veterans and Penal Legion Squads are seperate and count as a single troop choice each.
5. Vox Operators are good if your army is going to rely heavily on orders. In my opinion they aren't really worth it and you might as well take one of the various special characters that affect leadership as a whole. Its not something you should be busting your brain on anyway unless you plan on doing those blog squads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/04 06:20:19
Subject: Re:Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
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Welcome to dakka.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/04 06:58:34
Subject: Re:Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Alright, thank you! That's really helpful, and now I don't feel like such a newb. Yay.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/04 08:33:04
Subject: Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Welcome to Dakkadakka!  .
Woo! 400th post!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/08/04 08:34:39
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Terminator 2:What happened?
Terminator:I tripped over a piece of string concealed in the bushes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/04 08:54:01
Subject: Re:Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Do you get a prize at your 400th post? :O
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/04 09:09:14
Subject: Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Nah, it just shows that i can't keep my mouth shut (and my fingers off the keyboard).
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/08/04 09:10:58
Beyond state of being mortal
The Dreadnote wrote:...Ultra mortalitas wins the thread. Cheif Librarian Vaako wrote:...Terminator:I'm goin' in............. Whoa! man down!
Terminator 2:What happened?
Terminator:I tripped over a piece of string concealed in the bushes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/04 10:13:45
Subject: Re:Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Aww, that's lame. I wanted something to look forward to.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/04 11:20:14
Subject: Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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Mighty Brass Scorpion of Khorne
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Hey  Welcome to Dakka! Fuegan hit the nail on the head in regards to your questions. When you get to 500 posts your little ranking thing under your username changes, thats something to look forward too  I'm looking forward to the one for my 1000th post
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/04 11:22:56
Subject: Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
Pat that askala, O-H-I hate this stupid state
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Fuegan answered your questions well so that saves me from typing out a wall o text.  Welcome to dak dak¡
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/04 11:37:17
Subject: Re:Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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I guess I can ook forward to that too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/04 11:48:58
Subject: Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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Mighty Brass Scorpion of Khorne
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Well it changes lots of times. 100 posts I think is the 1st upgrade, and then maybe 250? It gives you a little something to look forward too (If your as easily ammused as I am  ).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/04 11:55:23
Subject: Re:Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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So who thought up of these upgrade names? Guarding Guardian?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/04 12:41:39
Subject: Re:Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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Fixture of Dakka
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Hello and welcome to Dakka!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/04 13:17:51
Subject: Re:Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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Stormin' Stompa
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Fuegan wrote:So who thought up of these upgrade names? Guarding Guardian? 
The community. That's you. Think you can do worse?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/04 13:22:27
Subject: Re:Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Holy Terra, Island Continent
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Mods and Admin (?), other people who have offered to make these up, posted in the Nuts & bolts thread.
Also welcome to Dakka and the Imperial Guard!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/04 23:56:40
Subject: Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Welcome to the Group!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/06 14:05:20
Subject: Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/07 01:23:52
Subject: Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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hi, im also a gaurd player and new to this site, i belive that krak gernades give your troops I10 in assault, but if shot from a GL they can damage the enemy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 14:24:39
Subject: Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Hello and welcome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/10 05:24:51
Subject: Re:Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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tons of leman russ can do any thing
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/10 21:48:29
Subject: Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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Cultist of Nurgle with Open Sores
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welcome to dakka dakka man
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/11 02:54:30
Subject: Semi-new Guard Player with some questions
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Grey Knight Purgator firing around corners
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Welcome to Dakka!
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