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My Boxset is confirmed and paid for…

I’m unavailable at 10am tomorrow as well so really happy, was worried I’d miss out.

Checking the sprue pics over on the GW site, looks like the gasmask heads and belt-fed autogun are not included with the initial set. Wasn't there mention of these being an upgrade sprue or something?

Command sprue is ace though, packed to the gills with a crapton of bits, including all special weapons, multiple heads and all options for both commander and veteran sergeant, I can see myself making a useless fighty command squad already.

edit.

Command squad comes with two gasmask heads.

There was a rumored additional sprue.

It looks like this sprue is doubled for the Field Ordinance:

Also, ordnance battery comes with the following sprues:



And two of these:




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Command squad:





Infantry squad:





Sentinel:

Well, super annoying that there is sprue that is not included, and there is no information whether it will be sold separately or packed with the kits when they come available.

Could be an add-on for a kill team release of the infantry squad.

Like the smaller sprue in the Krieg Squad (and other squads) with variant/specialist bits.

robbienw wrote:
Could be an add-on for a kill team release of the infantry squad.

Like the smaller sprue in the Krieg Squad (and other squads) with variant/specialist bits.

Yes, this is what I fear, as it means if you want to equip the guard from this box with gasmasks you're out of luck, as the sprue will not be available separately.

I could see them do a KT sprue for the Cadians, would be neat, as I'm itching to use Cadians for future KT games now.

Also, digging the amount of gubbins and stowage on each sprue, the Sentinel alone has quite the amount of extra kit and the Shock Troops set comes with a few sandbags hehe.

I'll be honest, given the forthcoming Kasrkin kill team, I'm hard press to believe that would be the case. In fact I'm more likely to believe they just left the sprue shot out accidentally. Or, there just isn't a sprue, and the rumours of vejng able to do every face with a gasmask being wrong

Has to be an extra sprue or something, the current ones do not have the belt-fed autogun for the sergeant as far as I can tell.

 BrookM wrote:
Has to be an extra sprue or something, the current ones do not have the belt-fed autogun for the sergeant as far as I can tell.

Top left quarter of the first sprue. Below the bodies underneath the plasma gun.

 Dawnbringer wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Has to be an extra sprue or something, the current ones do not have the belt-fed autogun for the sergeant as far as I can tell.

Top left quarter of the first sprue. Below the bodies underneath the plasma gun.

Belt-fed. Not drum-fed.

That’s the drum fed one is t it? There was a pic of a belt fed one as well. Unless there is Juliet a belt to stick to the drum somehow.

The infantry squad sprues are what interest me the most, but GW's modern CAD design means it can be really hard to figure out parts breakdowns from 2D images. They're certainly very fully packed, with what seems to be a whopping 25 heads per 10 troops.The new command squad seems to be pushing those numbers even higher, with 15 heads for 5 dudes, unless I'm mistaken.

I have to say, I wasn't expecting for the ordnance battery sprues to be able to build two of the same gun for whatever reason. Perhaps cynicism. I wonder how easy it will be to magnetize the different options. If not that, I see a lot of parts there that Ork players would enjoy. Alternatively, building alternative carriages for the leftover guns could be relatively easily done even without 3d printing assistance.

 BrookM wrote:
Has to be an extra sprue or something, the current ones do not have the belt-fed autogun for the sergeant as far as I can tell.

It's definitely interesting that there's missing goodies.

 Insularum wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 Insularum wrote:

KillerAngel wrote:

gungo wrote:
Egh even if it was the only free wpn the grenade launcher isn’t auto include… there is so much that improves lasguns you may just want a lasgun instead.. like a Cadian shock troop with frfsrf in rapid range.

That was true in the past, but FRFSRF now makes laguns heavy 3, and a frag grenade does 3.5 lasgun equivalent shots on average (with blast upping that potential).

FRFSRF is still better on shock troops unless maximum blast is in effect due to the bonus hits on las weapons. Should average at 2 hits per las weapon vs 1.75 per frag. If you're going down the volume of fire path for the new version of hammer of the emperor it's relevant I guess.

How is a heavy 3 weapon hitting twice at bs 4+?

Shock troopers have exploding 6's to hit on las weapons.
3 shots at 4+ = 1.5 hits
3 shots with 1/6 chance of exploding = 0.5 extra hits

It's all moot though, as you take either a plasma or melta regardless of las being better than frag.

^ this exploding 6s and frfsrf is better then grenade launcher…
parade drill and rapid fire 1/2 range aren’t as great but still close the gap…
But back on point grenade launchers aren’t always worth it even if they were free…I mean they still have the cost of using that special weapons slot…

Those infantry look like an absolute nightmare to put together.

And it appears that the artillery box will contain two guns per box. Odd choice.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Those infantry look like an absolute nightmare to put together.

And it appears that the artillery box will contain two guns per box. Odd choice.

Isn't the rumoured size 2-4, if so not that odd.


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 BrookM wrote:

 Dawnbringer wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Has to be an extra sprue or something, the current ones do not have the belt-fed autogun for the sergeant as far as I can tell.

Top left quarter of the first sprue. Below the bodies underneath the plasma gun.

Belt-fed. Not drum-fed.

Seen, and fair. Odd for them to do two options for what should be a one per squad option, even taking into account killteam.

 Dawnbringer wrote:
Isn't the rumoured size 2-4, if so not that odd.

Well if they come 2 to a sprue, then it'd have to be 2-4.

It's just odd as so many things in the Guard are 1-3.

Just look at those Sentinel weapons, this kit has been made with magnets in mind.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Dawnbringer wrote:
Isn't the rumoured size 2-4, if so not that odd.

Well if they come 2 to a sprue, then it'd have to be 2-4.

It's just odd as so many things in the Guard are 1-3.

Thudd Guns and Heavy Mortars in the old Krieg lists were 1-4, so, not too outlandish

Doth mine eyes deceive me, or is there two of each special weapon in the command squad sprues?

diepotato47 wrote:
Just look at those Sentinel weapons, this kit has been made with magnets in mind.

I'm honestly a little annoyed that they're right side only.
I know we're being trained not to expect conversion potential, but hate to see it blocking build variety within the kit itself.

KillerAngel wrote:
Doth mine eyes deceive me, or is there two of each special weapon in the command squad sprues?

That is true, which makes the rumoured one special weapon per command a bit strange

Dirk Reinecke wrote:

KillerAngel wrote:
Doth mine eyes deceive me, or is there two of each special weapon in the command squad sprues?

That is true, which makes the rumoured one special weapon per command a bit strange

Link on p76 to playtest codex leak info where that rumour comes from - there are seemingly 2 command squads now (Cadian and normal), normal one is build your own but no duplicate choices, Cadian one seems to be 0-2 guns but weirdly worded.

Commamd squad tactical rock can be replaced with a tactical sandbag. Nice.

Seriously it’s great that there’s at least options for that, if gw is going to insist that a model is going to pose on something. The new possessed had the same thing

 GaroRobe wrote:
Commamd squad tactical rock can be replaced with a tactical sandbag. Nice.

Ah good. The new Guard Codex does have some choices after all.

2x Gasmask heads on the command sprue (Karskin style, add on the mask to the head).

Please Please Please GW... Don't make them the only 2x in any kit, anywhere.... However, there is a peaked cap gas mask head also, so yeah... Cadian Shock troop upgrade sprue. Here's hoping it's available separately.

2 gas masks really is one of those things that makes no sense. You would either expect everyone to wear one or no one. It's not like gas attacks only happen to small local areas or parts of a squad.

 Dolnikan wrote:
2 gas masks really is one of those things that makes no sense. You would either expect everyone to wear one or no one. It's not like gas attacks only happen to small local areas or parts of a squad.

Welcome to the Imperium?

Honestly with the tremendous number of gasmask heads in plastic, metal and resin around this doesn't bother me at all.