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Hello there. I am having alot of problems with my friends new chaos list. He is using a Red panda list abbadon with eight khorne berzerkers. He puts the in a land raider just like red panda i have no way around it hes been eating every list i throw at him. Please help me burn this traitorous heretic

You have to pop that transport ASAP, because any unit Abby is attached to is slow and purposeful.That will slow them down some however he can always detach him from the unit but if he does there goes his 8 extra wounds.

Easiest solution - He's not an Eternal Warrior. Missile launchers or a few Wolf Guard with TH/SS and or PF/SS should make short work of him. Remember, you can specifically target him with any models in B2B contact in the assault phase. Berzerkers are nasty, and Abaddon is more so, but Storm Shields can make those Wolf Guard amazingly annoying to kill.


*edit* nevermind, I forgot that Chaos Ascendent make him immune to Instant Death. Carry on, nothing to see here.....

Maenus_Rajhana wrote:Easiest solution - He's not an Eternal Warrior. Missile launchers or a few Wolf Guard with TH/SS and or PF/SS should make short work of him. Remember, you can specifically target him with any models in B2B contact in the assault phase. Berzerkers are nasty, and Abaddon is more so, but Storm Shields can make those Wolf Guard amazingly annoying to kill.


*edit* nevermind, I forgot that Chaos Ascendent make him immune to Instant Death. Carry on, nothing to see here.....

Abby is an eternal warrior, it is bestowed on him by the chaos mark he carries...

Yup. Pop dat transport, focus some templates over the general area, and make sure you never let Abby get within CC range of anything you have.

Of course, it is easier to say than do.

Basically outline from your list what you can use to remove Abby as a threat and see how many resources it takes to do so. If it exceeds a certain threshold, such as the remainder of your army dedicated to wiping out the other CSMs, you will have to look again at your list and retinker it to counter the 700ish or so points the CSM player has dedicated to the Land Raider, the KBs, and Abby.

Deepstriking logan and multimeltas in a pod. put logan in back, which lets you choose where to pile him in.

sure they might all die, but you've dealt with a lot of his points there, which the rest of your army can deal with.

that, or throw some lone wolves at him

thunderwolves, all with different equipment? one of those 300pt lords to go toe to toe with abbadon?

take 4 priests and pray for a lucky jaws...?

Since when is Abby slow and purposeful?

Darrian13 wrote:Since when is Abby slow and purposeful?

Hmmm...don't have the codex on me atm, but doesn't Terminator Armor screw around with things (such as no sweeping advances, ect.).

WarOne wrote:

Darrian13 wrote:Since when is Abby slow and purposeful?

Hmmm...don't have the codex on me atm, but doesn't Terminator Armor screw around with things (such as no sweeping advances, ect.).

No sweeping advance, but they can move just as fast as anyone else.

Zarynterk wrote:

Maenus_Rajhana wrote:Easiest solution - He's not an Eternal Warrior. Missile launchers or a few Wolf Guard with TH/SS and or PF/SS should make short work of him. Remember, you can specifically target him with any models in B2B contact in the assault phase. Berzerkers are nasty, and Abaddon is more so, but Storm Shields can make those Wolf Guard amazingly annoying to kill.


*edit* nevermind, I forgot that Chaos Ascendent make him immune to Instant Death. Carry on, nothing to see here.....

Abby is an eternal warrior, it is bestowed on him by the chaos mark he carries...

Is it really necessary to quote and correct me when I've already done so in the very post you're quoting?

WarOne wrote:

Darrian13 wrote:Since when is Abby slow and purposeful?

Hmmm...don't have the codex on me atm, but doesn't Terminator Armor screw around with things (such as no sweeping advances, ect.).

It stops you from making a sweeping advance, but doesnt make you S+P, are you getting confused with Ork Mega Armour?

Yeah maybe I was... someone should check because I don't have a Chaos dex handy... I thought he was S/P, maybe not...

Well, you have a few options.

Take out the transport- this can be done with rhino melta GHs, Landspeeders, combi-melta WG, etc. Melta is what you really need for AV 14, though.

Drop plasma on the survivors. Here's where las/plas razorbacks, devastators, plasma GH squads etc. come in handy. Alternately, pouring more melta in isn't really a bad idea, as it cuts through the 2+ save. You can also try to bring tghe squad down with weight of fire by dumping bolters and flamers into it. It takes 6 wounds to drop 1 termi using this method, so a 10 man squad rapidfiring bolters would bring 1 termi down on average.

Any question that is phrased with "how do SW deal with xxxx..." is answered with a single name.

Arjac Rockfist.

The guy just murders all problem characters in the game. You take him and a small group of WG or grey hunters and just let him smash stuff up.

Yeah its kind of death star vs death star, but those types of fights are fun too.

whiplash00569 wrote:Hello there. I am having alot of problems with my friends new chaos list. He is using a Red panda list abbadon with eight khorne berzerkers. He puts the in a land raider just like red panda i have no way around it hes been eating every list i throw at him. Please help me burn this traitorous heretic

melt the raider, shoot abaddon. you aren't going to beat abaddon and 8 charging berserkers in close combat.
AF

here's the best abby killin' advice: let him kill himself with his backfiring deamon weapon. It works like a charm

Either focus fire on abby, or pull out Logan Grimnar.

Fight a super HQ in termie armor with another super HQ in termie armor.

Thank you everybody you have been all very helpful!