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My DA Deathwing-playing friend wishes to inquire what the board thinks of one of his squads he has created. He calls it Firestorm and from experience, it is a nightmare to kill. It basically is:

- Master of the Deathwing with twin LCs
- Interrogator Chaplain with Terminator Armour
- 5 Deathwing Terminators; 3 with twin LCs, 1 with TH/SS, 1 with a Chainfist. One is an Apothecary and another has the Deathwing Standard

What do we think?

I'm sure it hits hard and is moderately durable, but there are problems.

- almost 500 points
- 7 TDA's = no safe delivery option available in a LR. This is a CC squad, so they need to get close, and will have to either run across the baord or DS in off of a RW squad. If they do the latter, they'll be getting shot at for a turn up close and personal, if they run, they will be plinked at the whole time.
- It doesn't make use of wound allocation well, too many models are like equipped. DA excels at this, so advantage should be taken.
- Plasma will tear the squad apart in a heartbeat, even the SS guy - there is massive potential to be kited with this build.

Most of the problems above are codex issues, and just really call to reason why sinking both Belial and the Chaplain into the same squad is kind of a bad idea.

-2 lightning claws and +1 assault cannon/missle launcher and +1 power fist will allow you to abuse wound allocation to it's fullest, add utility to the squad, and potentially help with the plasma issue.

Firestorm squad, meet Leman Russ Executioner.

MinMax wrote:Firestorm squad, meet Leman Russ Executioner.

My first thought too.

None of us play IG, except him soon. Most of us play as Marines. Theres some Orks (me), nids, eldar, DE.

Replace Leman Russ Executioner with Vindicator then. Same result

I don't see this list very good, becouse anything with AP1 or 2 will kill them
but im DA player my self and if wanna play Deathwing im using LRCs to transport my terminators

the unforgiven wrote:I don't see this list very good, becouse anything with AP1 or 2 will kill them
but im DA player my self and if wanna play Deathwing im using LRCs to transport my terminators

Uhm, whats your point? Anything AP1/2 will kill, you guessed it, anything.


Id say if he got them them in a LR they would actually do more damage. But as it is, I could see that unit doing alot of damage when they get in there

what do you play? I would think the eldar should be abel to outmanover him.

Azrael does alot more for a terminator squad than Belial, since he gives them all a 4+ INV. That coupled with an Apothecary, all Termies with Lightning Claws and the standard makes for a very potent unit. Add in one heavy weapon and a chainfist and it's a much tougher nut to crack. Still annoying about the transport limitation though.

At the casual play level, that unit can be a real problem for any list without mass AP2 or TH/SS terminators.

It's the best way to use the DA book, and it's not an overly novel way to do it, but as long as your buddy doesn't plan on winning tournaments, he won't be too disappointed.

That said, deployment is an issue.

It's a slow deathstar. That said, if you mount a couple of other assault units in land raiders and move them up either side you can "herd" the enemy into assault range.

He normally footslogs this unit because it just won't die. We throw what we have at it and the Apothecary rule always gets in the way. That and he interlinks it with the rest of his deathwing (2 shooty termi squads and a couple of dreads or landraiders), so if we target that we get killed somewhere else.

Just remember that the Dark Angel Apothecary is not the same as a Space Marine Apothecary...



...not that I'm bitter. *grumble*