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jp400 wrote:Forget Thermite, REAL men use Tannerite:
I can top that. Real men use Fusion!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
The UN need to set up some kind of organisation to provide people with information about what to do during a zombie outbreak, at this rate only Dakka members will survive.
WARBOSS TZOO wrote:Grab your club, hit her over the head, and drag her back to your cave. The classics are classic for a reason.
Lord-Loss wrote:The UN need to set up some kind of organisation to provide people with information about what to do during a zombie outbreak, at this rate only Dakka members will survive.
No, they shouldn't, less survivors means less people to compete for supplies with
gendoikari87 wrote:is it sad that me and my friend were thinking of how to make a thermite flamethrower?
You can't, thermite doesn't burn with a real flame as such it just melts the iron and aluminium components as the aluminium violently oxidises. If you aerosolize the thermite you just make a huge explosion.
gendoikari87 wrote:is it sad that me and my friend were thinking of how to make a thermite flamethrower?
You can't, thermite doesn't burn with a real flame as such it just melts the iron and aluminium components as the aluminium violently oxidises. If you aerosolize the thermite you just make a huge explosion.
And how does one make this tannerite?
bs, we got it to work. Finely powdered aluminum, Iron Oxide, and magnesium, added to gasoline. Makes a really high heat slurry.
I don't reccomend it though, it was almost as bad as the time we made the thermite napalm.
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gendoikari87 wrote:is it sad that me and my friend were thinking of how to make a thermite flamethrower?
You can't, thermite doesn't burn with a real flame as such it just melts the iron and aluminium components as the aluminium violently oxidises. If you aerosolize the thermite you just make a huge explosion.
And how does one make this tannerite?
bs, we got it to work. Finely powdered aluminum, Iron Oxide, and magnesium, added to gasoline. Makes a really high heat slurry.
Not bs, chemistry.
All you did was boost some gasoline with thermite as opposed to making a flamethrower that projects burning aerosolised thermite and nothing else.
Oh thermite napalm now? Because that is also chemically possible and is not at all you making normal napalm and boosting it with thermite.
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gendoikari87 wrote:is it sad that me and my friend were thinking of how to make a thermite flamethrower?
You can't, thermite doesn't burn with a real flame as such it just melts the iron and aluminium components as the aluminium violently oxidises. If you aerosolize the thermite you just make a huge explosion.
And how does one make this tannerite?
bs, we got it to work. Finely powdered aluminum, Iron Oxide, and magnesium, added to gasoline. Makes a really high heat slurry.
Not bs, chemistry.
All you did was boost some gasoline with thermite as opposed to making a flamethrower that projects burning aerosolised thermite and nothing else.
Oh thermite napalm now? Because that is also chemically possible and is not at all you making normal napalm and boosting it with thermite.
Dude I'm a physics major with a best friend and fiancee that were chemists, I know the difference, and the net end result was a flamethrower that can melt car hoods, Ergo, thermite flame thrower.
FYI, aerosolized thermite is also a type of thermobaric bomb. it's what the russians used against the taliban.
corpsesarefun wrote:I am aware of the thermobaric properties of aerosolised thermite.
Fun isn't it? My friend who's a chemist (attained hsBS earlier this year) still doesn't understand why thermite explodes like it does when aerosolized, as according to him "it shouldn't matter" because thermite is self oxdizing. I never was able to explain to him why, just that I knew russians used it in their thermobarics.
corpsesarefun wrote:I am aware of the thermobaric properties of aerosolised thermite.
Fun isn't it? My friend who's a chemist (attained hsBS earlier this year) still doesn't understand why thermite explodes like it does when aerosolized, as according to him "it shouldn't matter" because thermite is self oxdizing. I never was able to explain to him why, just that I knew russians used it in their thermobarics.
Most powders when aerosolized cause thermobaric explosions (it is believed that aerosolized flour in a bakery caused the great fire of london) because the distribution of oxygen and the reactant is optimised causing a very rapid rate of reaction thus a sudden shift in pressure due to the heat kicked out, when you mix into this the stupidly exothermic nature of a thermite reaction you get a potent explosive.
ANYWAY... I read in the Herald a week or two ago about a new zombie book that came out, an adventure book...
It started by saying that while the majority of female population is infatuated with vampires and werewolves, and the romance and all that crap, (generally) guys have been interested in a good zombie movie/game/book, for one reason, it pits you in a scenario where there is nothing else, no other priority, nothing more important, than survival. A game where you have no clue what could happen, and what will happen.
Well, the book has a bunch of pre-set scenarios, I.E. Alex wakes up in the morning and finds a scratching noise at his door you can A: Open the door Flip to page 7 B: Look out the window Open to page 10 or C: look through the peephole in your door """""""
Seems like something that would occupy me, and with many different options, it's not just A,B, or C, but sometimes a plethora of options. I think I'm going to get it, and see whether or not I will recommend it...
Happy surviving!
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Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
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Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
Footsloggin wrote:ANYWAY... I read in the Herald a week or two ago about a new zombie book that came out, an adventure book...
It started by saying that while the majority of female population is infatuated with vampires and werewolves, and the romance and all that crap, (generally) guys have been interested in a good zombie movie/game/book, for one reason, it pits you in a scenario where there is nothing else, no other priority, nothing more important, than survival. A game where you have no clue what could happen, and what will happen.
Well, the book has a bunch of pre-set scenarios, I.E. Alex wakes up in the morning and finds a scratching noise at his door you can A: Open the door Flip to page 7 B: Look out the window Open to page 10 or C: look through the peephole in your door """""""
Seems like something that would occupy me, and with many different options, it's not just A,B, or C, but sometimes a plethora of options. I think I'm going to get it, and see whether or not I will recommend it...
Happy surviving!
Meh I am not a fan of flip to x page for y action books, mostly because they would work better as games.
Crom wrote:I've got a small collection of knives, from small to larger ones which I will take a few with me when the zombies rise. This is because blades don't need reloading. I also will take my guns. A blunt weapon would be ideal too for smashing up zombies, like a baseball bat, or a club.
corpsesarefun wrote:
Crom wrote:I've got a small collection of knives, from small to larger ones which I will take a few with me when the zombies rise. This is because blades don't need reloading. I also will take my guns. A blunt weapon would be ideal too for smashing up zombies, like a baseball bat, or a club.
Precisely
When the dead rise my knives, maul and thermite supplies are all I need
Tell you what, grab a sharp woodcutting ax and attempt to chop dense wood for about two hours straight non stop. The sheer exhaustion you will feel is the main reason why anyone attempting to go uber ninja on the undead will quickly end up as part of their ranks. After about 15min of direct contact (if that) you will have abandoned your knife which is most likely stuck in some still mobile corpse and are running for your life.
Not to mention you are putting yourself within contact range of impact splatter, which when it comes to contracting the infection from it, it isn't a matter of if but more a matter of when.
Hand to hand is always a last ditch effort against the walking dead. That is why I own several guns, and several thousand rounds of ammo.
Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of the Eldar!
corpsesarefun wrote:I am aware of the thermobaric properties of aerosolised thermite.
Fun isn't it? My friend who's a chemist (attained hsBS earlier this year) still doesn't understand why thermite explodes like it does when aerosolized, as according to him "it shouldn't matter" because thermite is self oxdizing. I never was able to explain to him why, just that I knew russians used it in their thermobarics.
Most powders when aerosolized cause thermobaric explosions (it is believed that aerosolized flour in a bakery caused the great fire of london) because the distribution of oxygen and the reactant is optimised causing a very rapid rate of reaction thus a sudden shift in pressure due to the heat kicked out, when you mix into this the stupidly exothermic nature of a thermite reaction you get a potent explosive.
yeah but that's the wierd part, thermite is self oxidating, it doesn't need atmospheric oxygen. It doesn't make sense, and yet it is.
corpsesarefun wrote:I am aware of the thermobaric properties of aerosolised thermite.
Fun isn't it? My friend who's a chemist (attained hsBS earlier this year) still doesn't understand why thermite explodes like it does when aerosolized, as according to him "it shouldn't matter" because thermite is self oxdizing. I never was able to explain to him why, just that I knew russians used it in their thermobarics.
Most powders when aerosolized cause thermobaric explosions (it is believed that aerosolized flour in a bakery caused the great fire of london) because the distribution of oxygen and the reactant is optimised causing a very rapid rate of reaction thus a sudden shift in pressure due to the heat kicked out, when you mix into this the stupidly exothermic nature of a thermite reaction you get a potent explosive.
yeah but that's the wierd part, thermite is self oxidating, it doesn't need atmospheric oxygen. It doesn't make sense, and yet it is.
Thermite doesn't have to be self oxidating as the heat comes from the oxidation of the aluminium as opposed to the reduction of the iron, having excess oxygen as opposed to fixed quantites of it greatly increases the speed at which the reaction occurs.
From wrote:I've got a small collection of knives, from small to larger ones which I will take a few with me when the zombies rise. This is because blades don't need reloading. I also will take my guns. A blunt weapon would be ideal too for smashing up zombies, like a baseball bat, or a club.
corpsesarefun wrote:
From wrote:I've got a small collection of knives, from small to larger ones which I will take a few with me when the zombies rise. This is because blades don't need reloading. I also will take my guns. A blunt weapon would be ideal too for smashing up zombies, like a baseball bat, or a club.
Precisely
When the dead rise my knives, maul and thermite supplies are all I need
Tell you what, grab a sharp woodcutting ax and attempt to chop dense wood for about two hours straight non stop. The sheer exhaustion you will feel is the main reason why anyone attempting to go uber ninja on the undead will quickly end up as part of their ranks. After about 15min of direct contact (if that) you will have abandoned your knife which is most likely stuck in some still mobile corpse and are running for your life.
Not to mention you are putting yourself within contact range of impact splatter, which when it comes to contracting the infection from it, it isn't a matter of if but more a matter of when.
Hand to hand is always a last ditch effort against the walking dead. That is why I own several guns, and several thousand rounds of ammo.
Agreed and agreed, getting "up close and personal" with a human combatant is one thing...but in any situation in which one bite,even a small one=Game Over,I'm going to take the "shoot'em all" position every time.
In the case of our friends across the pond,where firearms are not as readily acessable...crossbows/running/locating were it is your military and police keep their guns and ammo, seem like the best chances for survival.
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I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
corpsesarefun wrote:I do have a crossbow but I am a lousy shot, this is why I spend time studying explosives
So...you require more target AND bass practice?....
Explosives are a nice option,but clearly one can't run about very effectively loaded down with hundreds of pounds of pipe bombs...a few for " Oh Faith there's too many of them" situations,but for "run and gun"...what then?
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
In their defense, while having much less access for firearms, they do have something called castles. Castle plus two or three home made flame throwers = Good Times!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
FM Ninja 048 wrote:not all of us are defenceless, If you traveled to the UK after Zday it would be full of farmers.
my dad has a shotgun and I have a bow, so we'll do better than a lot of the UK
@ corpesarefun, attach explosives to crossbow bolt = win
Filling bolts with thermite or silica crystals (stabiliser for nitroglycirin, really should not be posting this sort of stuff on the internet) tends to mess up their flight path :/ its much easier to modify an alkane based defroster spray can using a thermite breaching charge with an extra thermite load to be aerosolised by the escaping and burning pressured butane/ethane mix.
I'd also note Aussies are similarly capable. Aussies don't fear being eaten by Zombies. In Australia, zombies fear being eaten by Aussies!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Frazzled wrote:In their defense, while having much less access for firearms, they do have something called castles. Castle plus two or three home made flame throwers = Good Times!
True..Castles would obviously make for excellent defensible positions,however...I question the assault value of a few flame throwers....sure it's fun,but...burnt zombie doesn't always =neutralized zombie.
Of course,from castle walls one could always drop various heavy objects (large rocks and such) onto the attacking zombies heads.
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I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
Or, go Dark Ages old school and drop boiling oil on them. Slows them down, and roasts them too!
Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
Footsloggin wrote:Or, go Dark Ages old school and drop boiling oil on them. Slows them down, and roasts them too!
Again...while that may be fun,it wouldn't necessarily "Kill" the zombies...burn them up yes,but unless the heat from the fire destroys the brain...your still faced with a bunch of deep fried attackers.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
Footsloggin wrote:Or, go Dark Ages old school and drop boiling oil on them. Slows them down, and roasts them too!
Again...while that may be fun,it wouldn't necessarily "Kill" the zombies...burn them up yes,but unless the heat from the fire destroys the brain...your still faced with a bunch of deep fried attackers.
Cave the bastards heads in with a maul or just retreat to the already prepared hiding location.
Footslogging wrote:Or, go Dark Ages old school and drop boiling oil on them. Slows them down, and roasts them too!
Again...while that may be fun,it wouldn't necessarily "Kill" the zombies...burn them up yes,but unless the heat from the fire destroys the brain...your still faced with a bunch of deep fried attackers.
Cave the bastards heads in with a maul or just retreat to the already prepared hiding location.
I was thinking lots of improvised booby traps, tripwire nail bombs set at head level,improvised claymores....that sort of thing.
EDIT: How available is Black Powder or other "accelerants" in the UK?
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I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
Footsloggin wrote:Or, go Dark Ages old school and drop boiling oil on them. Slows them down, and roasts them too!
Again...while that may be fun,it wouldn't necessarily "Kill" the zombies...burn them up yes,but unless the heat from the fire destroys the brain...your still faced with a bunch of deep fried attackers.
Cave the bastards heads in with a maul or just retreat to the already prepared hiding location.
I was thinking lots of improvised booby traps, tripwire nail bombs set at head level,improvised claymores....that sort of thing.
What about Laser tripwires that trigger the floor to open, revealing a massive pool of magma?
Every Normal Man Must Be Tempted At Times To Spit On His Hands, Hoist That Black Flag, And Begin Slitting Throats.
