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corpsesarefun wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:
You don't trust anyone do you? Your saying the best people I know of that I have been training with in martial arts, and combat training are going to betray me? The ones that have saved my life from certain death several times? .

You know several martial arts, have combat training and do parkour?

You're my internet toughguy hero!

Combat training = knife and sword training. And If i was a tough guy, i would have gruffled voice, and awesome hair. Unfortunately I have neither of those. I am not GES.
I do only open palm martial arts. Which means Its fast and damaging but it will make me waste enough energy to become weakened enough to make me unable to do parkour.

I hate the "peter are american hero and doesn't suicide!" ending to dawn of the dead so much.

corpsesarefun wrote:I hate the "peter are american hero and doesn't suicide!" ending to dawn of the dead so much.

Wait...would you have rathered Peter shoot himself?...
I know the ending is a bit..."Yay!!" to a certian degree with the "super hero" music and karate chop action,but...it's still pretty bleak...Peter and Fran are flying off in a helicopter that is almost out of fuel,with very little in the way of supplies ...into a dead world.

Asherian Command wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:
You don't trust anyone do you? Your saying the best people I know of that I have been training with in martial arts, and combat training are going to betray me? The ones that have saved my life from certain death several times? .

You know several martial arts, have combat training and do parkour?

You're my internet toughguy hero!

Combat training = knife and sword training. And If i was a tough guy, i would have gruffled voice, and awesome hair. Unfortunately I have neither of those. I am not GES.
I do only open palm martial arts. Which means Its fast and damaging but it will make me waste enough energy to become weakened enough to make me unable to do parkour.

I have trained several martial arts over the years, but I also own guns.

Crom wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:
You don't trust anyone do you? Your saying the best people I know of that I have been training with in martial arts, and combat training are going to betray me? The ones that have saved my life from certain death several times? .

You know several martial arts, have combat training and do parkour?

You're my internet toughguy hero!

Combat training = knife and sword training. And If i was a tough guy, i would have gruffled voice, and awesome hair. Unfortunately I have neither of those. I am not GES.
I do only open palm martial arts. Which means Its fast and damaging but it will make me waste enough energy to become weakened enough to make me unable to do parkour.

I have trained several martial arts over the years, but I also own guns.

Being proficent in physical combat is always a plus...but where zombies are involved..I'll go for the long range kill every time.

FITZZ wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:I hate the "peter are american hero and doesn't suicide!" ending to dawn of the dead so much.

Wait...would you have rathered Peter shoot himself?...
I know the ending is a bit..."Yay!!" to a certian degree with the "super hero" music and karate chop action,but...it's still pretty bleak...Peter and Fran are flying off in a helicopter that is almost out of fuel,with very little in the way of supplies ...into a dead world.

It just looks like the film was written with him killing himself but they redid it at the last minute so its a relatively happy ending.

The music and the "I PUNCHED PAST 20 ZOMBIES" are what really got to me though... seriously not fitting with the rest of the film

And yeah I would have prefered peter either trying to escape and failing, sacrificing himself for fran or just killing himself to the ending where both live.

corpsesarefun wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:I hate the "peter are american hero and doesn't suicide!" ending to dawn of the dead so much.

Wait...would you have rathered Peter shoot himself?...
I know the ending is a bit..."Yay!!" to a certian degree with the "super hero" music and karate chop action,but...it's still pretty bleak...Peter and Fran are flying off in a helicopter that is almost out of fuel,with very little in the way of supplies ...into a dead world.

It just looks like the film was written with him killing himself but they redid it at the last minute so its a relatively happy ending.

The music and the "I PUNCHED PAST 20 ZOMBIES" are what really got to me though... seriously not fitting with the rest of the film

And yeah I would have prefered peter either trying to escape and failing, sacrificing himself for fran or just killing himself to the ending where both live.

In all honesty,Romero would most likely agree with you..his original scripts have a way of "changing" when the actualy get to film...so it wouldn't surprise me if he'd intended for Peter to die in the first draft and made some changes so the film would be a bit more "acceptable."
Personaly,I've spent a good bit of time musing over what ever became of Peter and Fran....my guess....they didn't make it.

Yeah I'm pretty sure Fran would die due to complications with childbirth and peter would likely die on his own eventually.

Even in the short term, that helicopter didn't have much fuel...

Two words.

Abram's Tank.

No zombie can get in one of those. I just have to take a gun, some ammo, and mostly water and food. When I run out of food or ammo I can drive it to the nearest shopping mart or gun store and quickly grab what I need.

ZacktheChaosChild wrote:Two words.

Abram's Tank.

No zombie can get in one of those. I just have to take a gun, some ammo, and mostly water and food. When I run out of food or ammo I can drive it to the nearest shopping mart or gun store and quickly grab what I need.

This idea has been generally regarded as a poor one in most of the zombie survival threads we have had, not because of the tank itself but because of how much you can store in them and how much training you need to actually drive one.

Without the training a tank is little more than a tin can for the zombies food to be in.

corpsesarefun wrote:Yeah I'm pretty sure Fran would die due to complications with childbirth and peter would likely die on his own eventually.

Even in the short term, that helicopter didn't have much fuel...

Exactly...and in one scene where they show them storing supplies into the helicopter, it's obvious they don't have room for a whole bunch of items...some ammo,a few weeks worth of food...so yeah..Peter might have had one last Huzzah punching and kicking his way to the helicopter....but I'd wager he and Fran ended up as a snack or as a burning wreck when the chopper went down.




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corpsesarefun wrote:

ZacktheChaosChild wrote:Two words.

Abram's Tank.

No zombie can get in one of those. I just have to take a gun, some ammo, and mostly water and food. When I run out of food or ammo I can drive it to the nearest shopping mart or gun store and quickly grab what I need.

This idea has been generally regarded as a poor one in most of the zombie survival threads we have had, not because of the tank itself but because of how much you can store in them and how much training you need to actually drive one.

Without the training a tank is little more than a tin can for the zombies food to be in.

That and it takes a four man crew to fully operate an Abrams Tank...so you'd need three friend who have knowledge of the vehicle as well.

I didn't want to start another zombie thread if there was one just 2 months earlier, so...

-gather up as many trusted people as you can.
-grab a crapton of guns, bats, knives, medicine from a gun store, military base, ect.
-go to the nearest building with large stocks of food.
-barricade all doors, windows, ect.
-let nobody else in.
-fight for your life, but only when in direct danger. Use only silenced weapons until the zombies do an all-out attack.
-radio constantly.
-fight some more.
-if you're the last one left, detonate all the C4's/mines/TNT/grenades you've set up around the place.

If I could take 3 things with me:
AA-12 fully automatic shotgun (with suppressor and lots of ammo)-
anti-tank, door breaching, anti-personnel rounds, easy headshots, spray around, very durable and robust.
Med kit/antidote/first aid-
if you get hurt, better be ready to get back up again.
Apache gunship-
lots of guns, and they...can't touch this. (na nanana nana nana)

If I could choose 3 real people to save, fight with and throw into the horde:
save- *insert family member here*
fight with- a high ranking SAS soldier & pilot-
knows how to handle himself, lots of guns, british, and knows how to pilot the apache.
throw into the horde- the world's fattest man.
He'll take a few of them down as he lands, and he can block the doorway as I escape in my apache.

If I could choose 3 fictional people to save, fight with and throw into the horde:
save- yoda (episode II/III.) He'll know what to do and he's a damn good fighter to boot.
fight with- terminator. Can't be infected, knows just about everything and loyal to the end.
throw into the horde: Nurgle. They'll run away in disgust.

Cruise ship still remains to be the best plan.

Bossasaurus wrote:Cruise ship still remains to be the best plan.

Agreed. If you know how to drive it. If not, you're dead.

Blocks of flats/office buildings are generally a good bet - demolish the stairs on the first few floors and link together the buildings with rope bridges. They have flat roof tops for growing veg and collecting water and lots and lots of floor space, as well as plenty of fuel for burning and using as insulation.

SilverMK2 wrote:Blocks of flats/office buildings are generally a good bet - demolish the stairs on the first few floors and link together the buildings with rope bridges. They have flat roof tops for growing veg and collecting water and lots and lots of floor space, as well as plenty of fuel for burning and using as insulation.

that's if you have the time to destroy the stairs, collect seeds, purge all nearby zombies, collect food and weapons, get rope, water and fuel before the zombies get you.

shrike wrote:

SilverMK2 wrote:Blocks of flats/office buildings are generally a good bet - demolish the stairs on the first few floors and link together the buildings with rope bridges. They have flat roof tops for growing veg and collecting water and lots and lots of floor space, as well as plenty of fuel for burning and using as insulation.

that's if you have the time to destroy the stairs, collect seeds, purge all nearby zombies, collect food and weapons, get rope, water and fuel before the zombies get you.

You dont have this stuff on a zombie emergency pack???

Am I the only one with an apocolypse/zombie invasion emergency kit?

I just don't understand this whole defense thing. The best defense is a good offense. Hunt them first.

New and improved Zombie Fertilizer, for all your plant needs (actually done by the British with Egyptian mummies FYI).

ShivanAngel wrote:

shrike wrote:

SilverMK2 wrote:Blocks of flats/office buildings are generally a good bet - demolish the stairs on the first few floors and link together the buildings with rope bridges. They have flat roof tops for growing veg and collecting water and lots and lots of floor space, as well as plenty of fuel for burning and using as insulation.

that's if you have the time to destroy the stairs, collect seeds, purge all nearby zombies, collect food and weapons, get rope, water and fuel before the zombies get you.

You dont have this stuff on a zombie emergency pack???

Am I the only one with an apocolypse/zombie invasion emergency kit?

no, it's just no fun.
I got this:
http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Zombie-Apocalypse-Survival-Kit/lm/R28XMOLHVJAYPF
^^

Asherian Command wrote: Your saying the best people I know of that I have been training with in martial arts, and combat training are going to betray me? The ones that have saved my life from certain death several times?

What exactly do you do in your free time that is so dangerous?

rubiksnoob wrote:

Asherian Command wrote: Your saying the best people I know of that I have been training with in martial arts, and combat training are going to betray me? The ones that have saved my life from certain death several times?

What exactly do you do in your free time that is so dangerous?

He could be military...

rubiksnoob wrote:

Asherian Command wrote: Your saying the best people I know of that I have been training with in martial arts, and combat training are going to betray me? The ones that have saved my life from certain death several times?

What exactly do you do in your free time that is so dangerous?

traffic warden.

shrike wrote:that's if you have the time to destroy the stairs, collect seeds, purge all nearby zombies, collect food and weapons, get rope, water and fuel before the zombies get you.

You don't have to do it all at once. Sally forth from your current location and on the first trip find some suitable buildings, second trip destroy a staircase, maybe set up some lures on the other side of town, next trip destroy some more stairs, etc etc...

so how do you obtain explosives for said stairs?

I can go to a random hardware store and make something capable of leveling a building in about 30 minutes...

Having a pyro license comes in handy sometimes.

ShivanAngel wrote:I can go to a random hardware store and make something capable of leveling a building in about 30 minutes...

Having a pyro license comes in handy sometimes.

Funnily enough, I'm looking for a career as a pyro for films and stuff.

shrike wrote:so how do you obtain explosives for said stairs?

A sledgehammer and steel pin, or pickaxe would work, given time.

You could also just block the stairs - may not be quite as secure but a lot faster and potentially quieter. A few bags of cement, breeze blocks etc and you could have pretty good protection by blocking up entrances. You can then further reinforce them later at your leisure.

shrike wrote:

ShivanAngel wrote:I can go to a random hardware store and make something capable of leveling a building in about 30 minutes...

Having a pyro license comes in handy sometimes.

Funnily enough, I'm looking for a career as a pyro for films and stuff.

Wouldn't blowing them up cause a fire...

wait, blowing up films and stuff or blowing up the stairs?

Frazzled wrote:

shrike wrote:

ShivanAngel wrote:I can go to a random hardware store and make something capable of leveling a building in about 30 minutes...

Having a pyro license comes in handy sometimes.

Funnily enough, I'm looking for a career as a pyro for films and stuff.

Wouldn't blowing them up cause a fire...

Yeah. Flaming Zeds = Not fun.

Just use a sledge/directed blast to take out the stairs. Be prepared, however, to alert zombies to the noise.