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corpsesarefun wrote:Why would I wear a muzzle? That stops me biting the zombies...

I just know that you are into masks and other facial wear... the muzzle would look cool while you swing the Hammer/Axe

Well why didnt you say a splitting edge? That would be much more efficient then an axe, an axe would easily get stuck in, that thing on the other hand. I still wouldnt choose your method, but Im not crazy If you DO go that route, at least paint yourself up like a modern day berzerker and go out like a badass, deal?

I could go Super Natural Style

I also always laugh at people that say things like " Im going to take a tank/military weapon" seriously? Chances are REALLY good your a civilian saying that, and Im sure the highly trained military personnel will have a better chance of stopping you, then you do of taking it from them. Just sayin.



FITZZ - Great minds my friend


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Asherian Command wrote:I could go Super Natural Style

Like..... nudist?

KingCracker wrote:I also always laugh at people that say things like " Im going to take a tank/military weapon" seriously? Chances are REALLY good your a civilian saying that, and Im sure the highly trained military personnel will have a better chance of stopping you, then you do of taking it from them. Just sayin.



FITZZ - Great minds my friend


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Asherian Command wrote:I could go Super Natural Style

Like..... nudist?

No Sam and dean style. lots of guns in the back seat. And such. Plus it could be like Necromancers, daemons, and hell taking over, need to be prepared for anything..

Asherian Command wrote:

KingCracker wrote:I also always laugh at people that say things like " Im going to take a tank/military weapon" seriously? Chances are REALLY good your a civilian saying that, and Im sure the highly trained military personnel will have a better chance of stopping you, then you do of taking it from them. Just sayin.



FITZZ - Great minds my friend


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Asherian Command wrote:I could go Super Natural Style

Like..... nudist?

No Sam and dean style. lots of guns in the back seat. And such. Plus it could be like Necromancers, daemons, and hell taking over, need to be prepared for anything..

Ooooh... Prime Time Gay Incest style... now I get you...

Except now you have replaced complicated tech with your limited understanding and resources of the occult...

wait, what zombies are these? are they super-fast agile ones, or slow ones where if you whack them over the head it'll drop off?
will they attack during the day?
how many survivors are in the area?
does it spread? through the air? by biting others? or are they just really p***ed off dead guys who got out of thier coffins?
how long does it take after infection to become zombie?

my answer would be to just prevent it in the first place- cremate everyone.

"Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man."
- General George Patton

"A good plan executed today is better than a perfect plan executed at some indefinite point in the future."
- General George Patton

That's all I have to say.

Broadside wrote:"Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man."
- General George Patton

"A good plan executed today is better than a perfect plan executed at some indefinite point in the future."
- General George Patton

That's all I have to say.

I don't believe that first one for a minute, fixed fortifications are essential, you need somewhere to keep all your supplies, somewhere to do major maintenance on things etc. In a zombie apoc senario if you can get heavy fortifacations around a water source and enough land to grow a small Amount of food you're all set

By heavy fortifacations I mean tall concrete/rock Walls or similar structures

KingCracker wrote:Well why didnt you say a splitting edge? That would be much more efficient then an axe, an axe would easily get stuck in, that thing on the other hand. I still wouldnt choose your method, but Im not crazy If you DO go that route, at least paint yourself up like a modern day berzerker and go out like a badass, deal?

More people know what an axes than a splitting maul
And I'm afraid that I'll have to decline on the paint and stick to my porcelain mask and leather armour

FM Ninja 048 wrote:

Broadside wrote:"Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man."
- General George Patton

"A good plan executed today is better than a perfect plan executed at some indefinite point in the future."
- General George Patton

That's all I have to say.

I don't believe that first one for a minute, fixed fortifications are essential, you need somewhere to keep all your supplies, somewhere to do major maintenance on things etc. In a zombie apoc senario if you can get heavy fortifacations around a water source and enough land to grow a small Amount of food you're all set

By heavy fortifacations I mean tall concrete/rock Walls or similar structures

I strongly agree with this.
You can't run from zombies, only hide and live out your life or go out with a bang.

I read this in an urban survival blog a few days ago:

"Someone is going to be bigger than you, someone is going to have more firepower than you, and someone is going to want what you have. They will want take it. Always be ready to run from them."

It's much easier to run from a secluded hovel on a hillside with good overwatch then it is to run from a giant stone fortress that sticks out like a sore thumb.

CrashUSAR wrote:I read this in an urban survival blog a few days ago:

"Someone is going to be bigger than you, someone is going to have more firepower than you, and someone is going to want what you have. They will want take it. Always be ready to run from them."

It's much easier to run from a secluded hovel on a hillside with good overwatch then it is to run from a giant stone fortress that sticks out like a sore thumb.

but with a massive stone fortress it takes them longer to break into, meaning that you have more time to sneak out the back/secret tunnel, and who says that your fortress can't have good overwatch

CrashUSAR wrote:I read this in an urban survival blog a few days ago:

"Someone is going to be bigger than you, someone is going to have more firepower than you, and someone is going to want what you have. They will want take it. Always be ready to run from them."

It's much easier to run from a secluded hovel on a hillside with good overwatch then it is to run from a giant stone fortress that sticks out like a sore thumb.

That's one of the reasons the "underground bunkers" from several pages back had so much appeal..
One of those,set in a mountainous area,with sufficient surveillance/camouflage precautions,would make a pretty damn nice base of operation.

I've drawn up schematics for such a thing. It includes air intake/exhaust, sound proofing (what little you'll need), and heat disappation methods to avoid being detected through IR.

CrashUSAR wrote:I've drawn up schematics for such a thing. It includes air intake/exhaust, sound proofing (what little you'll need), and heat dissipation methods to avoid being detected through IR.

IMO...that sort of set up would be optimal in a post zombie Apoc. world.
Keeps you out of sight/ear shot of zombies/scavengers + the "average" survivor/scavenger isn't really going to be able to locate you,unless they spot members of your group entering/exiting the complex...and with proper surveillance/defense/"bug out" plans,even a group of "Raiders" or a horde of zombies won't necessarily mean" Game Over."

Agreed. Fitzz, if either of us wins a big ass jackpot, we need to get an underground bunker! Another great reason for them, is people/zombies will look for a big ass building and wonder whats inside. An underground bunker is a fething tool shed in the middle of no where. Who honestly would think "Hey shovels are awesome! Lets go look a the ones in that tool shed"

KingCracker wrote:Agreed. Fitzz, if either of us wins a big ass jackpot, we need to get an underground bunker! Another great reason for them, is people/zombies will look for a big ass building and wonder whats inside. An underground bunker is a fething tool shed in the middle of no where. Who honestly would think "Hey shovels are awesome! Lets go look a the ones in that tool shed"

100% agree KC...

Not to mention a few well placed tripwire traps nearby could "discourage" anyone/thing that gets to close.

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Asherian Command wrote:

KingCracker wrote:I also always laugh at people that say things like " Im going to take a tank/military weapon" seriously? Chances are REALLY good your a civilian saying that, and Im sure the highly trained military personnel will have a better chance of stopping you, then you do of taking it from them. Just sayin.



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Asherian Command wrote:I could go Super Natural Style

Like..... nudist?

No Sam and dean style. lots of guns in the back seat. And such. Plus it could be like Necromancers, daemons, and hell taking over, need to be prepared for anything..

Ooooh... Prime Time Gay Incest style... now I get you...

Except now you have replaced complicated tech with your limited understanding and resources of the occult...

argh. Mate you really don't know what that show is. I watch it due to its humor. The only character I like is Misha Collins character who is a bad ass angel which reminds me of the Angels of Death.
Plus one of my friends is a red neck so we will handle fine.

Asherian Command wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

KingCracker wrote:I also always laugh at people that say things like " Im going to take a tank/military weapon" seriously? Chances are REALLY good your a civilian saying that, and Im sure the highly trained military personnel will have a better chance of stopping you, then you do of taking it from them. Just sayin.



FITZZ - Great minds my friend


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Asherian Command wrote:I could go Super Natural Style

Like..... nudist?

No Sam and dean style. lots of guns in the back seat. And such. Plus it could be like Necromancers, daemons, and hell taking over, need to be prepared for anything..

Ooh... Prime Time Gay Incest style... now I get you...

Except now you have replaced complicated tech with your limited understanding and resources of the occult...

argh. Mate you really don't know what that show is. I watch it due to its humor. The only character I like is Misha Collins character who is a bad ass angel which reminds me of the Angels of Death.
Plus one of my friends is a red neck so we will handle fine.

No worries there Ash,I watch Supernatural as well and think it's a pretty good show (well at least the first 5 seasons)..yeah it's a bit at times,but it's got elements of the old Night Stalker series that I really enjoy and it's good for some chuckles.

OK ao all this sogitating has made me rethink my plan. Change in bold.

1. relocate all relatives to The Dachshund's Lair secret base.
2. Get combine harvester.
3. Drive harvester to liquor store while laughing maniacally and going through zombies like, well a harvester through a wheat field.
4. Pick up a case of tequila.
5. Drive to local sheriff/posse gathering for the start of Zombie hunting season.
6. Distribute tequila. Distribute shells. Let the official Zombie hunting season begin!

FM Ninja 048 wrote:

CrashUSAR wrote:I read this in an urban survival blog a few days ago:

"Someone is going to be bigger than you, someone is going to have more firepower than you, and someone is going to want what you have. They will want take it. Always be ready to run from them."

It's much easier to run from a secluded hovel on a hillside with good overwatch then it is to run from a giant stone fortress that sticks out like a sore thumb.

but with a massive stone fortress it takes them longer to break into, meaning that you have more time to sneak out the back/secret tunnel, and who says that your fortress can't have good overwatch

It also means that everyone around your proximity knows you have a stone fortress. Humans are clever creatures, and in desperate times such as a zombie apocalypse they will find a way to breach your fortifications and steal your goods, and possibly kill you if you try to stop them. That is why giant fortifications take a whole garrison of guards to properly defend.

That is why you bring as many friends as your supplies will allow.

jp400 wrote:That is why you bring as many friends as your supplies will allow.

Yup but if you watch any zombie movie where this happens you always have those few people that betray everyone else....you are screwed either way. Which is why if anything a very small and efficient group out of sight will survive longer than a ton of people held up in a giant and obvious fort.

Have to disagree.

There is always strength in numbers, so long as you can support said numbers.

jp400 wrote:Have to disagree.

There is always strength in numbers, so long as you can support said numbers.

I don't know, humans are fragile when it comes to psyche. The world has ended, you and a bunch of dudes and maybe 2 or 3 women make it to a safe spot. Supplies are limited, hope is bleak, and everyone becomes more of a sociopath every day. Killing becomes a daily occurrence, and life has less meaning. The more people you have in an end of the world scenario the more chances you have of being betrayed. Humans by nature are greedy, self centered, and when it comes to their survival will betray you.

I would agree with you if everyone in the group had the same mindset, but somehow I just don't see that really happening.

Place one end of dryer duct on the trucks tail pipe, one end in the air intake of under ground bunker.

Profit!

Find the dude who made things zombieish tell him to give you the cure if and kick his ass for starting it. Personaly i'd nail him upside down to the front of my hummer and drive through a pile of zombies.


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Crom wrote:

jp400 wrote:Have to disagree.

There is always strength in numbers, so long as you can support said numbers.

I don't know, humans are fragile when it comes to psyche. The world has ended, you and a bunch of dudes and maybe 2 or 3 women make it to a safe spot. Supplies are limited, hope is bleak, and everyone becomes more of a sociopath every day. Killing becomes a daily occurrence, and life has less meaning. The more people you have in an end of the world scenario the more chances you have of being betrayed. Humans by nature are greedy, self centered, and when it comes to their survival will betray you.

I would agree with you if everyone in the group had the same mindset, but somehow I just don't see that really happening.

You don't trust anyone do you? Your saying the best people I know of that I have been training with in martial arts, and combat training are going to betray me? The ones that have saved my life from certain death several times? (No sarcasm)
Humans may be greedy by nature. I am good off in that my group trusts each other in that we have drilled and drilled in different environments (Not military, something close to it BSA Venturing), its not like were going to betray each other at the worst of times.

Asherian Command wrote:
You don't trust anyone do you? Your saying the best people I know of that I have been training with in martial arts, and combat training are going to betray me? The ones that have saved my life from certain death several times? .

You know several martial arts, have combat training and do parkour?

You're my internet toughguy hero!

My plan mostly involves betraying other people, sending them to their splunchy rare steak deaths then using their accumulated goods to survive.


That and I own a pile of guns and ammo.