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competition guns are good, but I think your average well built gun is just as good

Agreed. I was just noting STI does make a double column line of 1911s.

Crom wrote:competition guns are good, but I think your average well built gun is just as good

Respectfully disagree.


(9mm)




(1911 45)

Any of the above will blow anything you can buy direct off the shelf completely out of the water hands down.

jp400 wrote:

Crom wrote:competition guns are good, but I think your average well built gun is just as good

Respectfully disagree.


(9mm)




(1911 45)

Any of the above will blow anything you can buy direct off the shelf completely out of the water hands down.

1. bear in mind I can't see the pics as they are blocked at work.
2. Again, I think the primary issue he's noting is not for target shooting but real use, and on a somewhat tight budget. Sure an STI or a Wilson Combat will be better guns, but when you're on a Taurus budget you go for what you can get.

Frazzled wrote:

jp400 wrote:

From wrote:competition guns are good, but I think your average well built gun is just as good

Respectfully disagree.


(9mm)




(1911 45)

Any of the above will blow anything you can buy direct off the shelf completely out of the water hands down.

1. bear in mind I can't see the pics as they are blocked at work.
2. Again, I think the primary issue he's noting is not for target shooting but real use, and on a somewhat tight budget. Sure an STI or a Wilson Combat will be better guns, but when you're on a Taurus budget you go for what you can get.

Besides...In the scenario being discussed in this thread,competition/target shooting (though accuracy is important) isn't the real point,it's about being able to get the "head shot",and while my Taurus isn't a "top tier" pistol...I can hit my target at 30+ yards every time.

I personally find nothing wrong with Taurus. I own their .38 ultralight and simply love it.

It is what I usually carry with me everywhere I go.

jp400 wrote:I personally find nothing wrong with Taurus. I own their .38 ultralight and simply love it.

It is what I usually carry with me everywhere I go.

That was just an expression JP, denoting Taurus's reputation of good inexpensive firearms vs. Wilson's extremely good but extremely expensive pistols.

jp400 wrote:I personally find nothing wrong with Taurus. I own their .38 ultralight and simply love it.

It is what I usually carry with me everywhere I go.

Oh..Don't get me wrong,I love my Taurus,it's my primary "Travel Firearm"..
I'm just saying that it's clearly not a " Professional Target Pistol".

In the zombie apocalypse are you going to carry around a competition pistol? What happens when you need parts? I am not saying they aren't nice guns. I am saying 2" groups at 25 yards with a hand gun is all you need. If you can get .25 inch groups then that is awesome. I am looking for functionality and in the case of a zombie uprising, or whatever, I want gun I can easily salvage parts for.

Just my opinion is all.

Crom wrote:In the zombie apocalypse are you going to carry around a competition pistol? What happens when you need parts? I am not saying they aren't nice guns. I am saying 2" groups at 25 yards with a hand gun is all you need. If you can get .25 inch groups then that is awesome. I am looking for functionality and in the case of a zombie uprising, or whatever, I want gun I can easily salvage parts for.

Just my opinion is all.

I'm going with Crom on this one,in the case of complete social breakdown..the rugged/reliable/repairable weapons trump "State of the Art" every time.

Crom wrote:In the zombie apocalypse are you going to carry around a competition pistol? What happens when you need parts? I am not saying they aren't nice guns. I am saying 2" groups at 25 yards with a hand gun is all you need. If you can get .25 inch groups then that is awesome. I am looking for functionality and in the case of a zombie uprising, or whatever, I want gun I can easily salvage parts for.

Just my opinion is all.

Yes I will. I carry my 1911 around now and will continue to do so when the zeds pop up. Though I will use a much bigger mag though.

Most comp guns are nothing more then upgraded stock weapons. The 1911 in the above photo is just that. A 1911. It just has an upgraded trigger, barrel, porting, sights, sight rail, grip ect ect.

jp400 wrote:

Crom wrote:In the zombie apocalypse are you going to carry around a competition pistol? What happens when you need parts? I am not saying they aren't nice guns. I am saying 2" groups at 25 yards with a hand gun is all you need. If you can get .25 inch groups then that is awesome. I am looking for functionality and in the case of a zombie uprising, or whatever, I want gun I can easily salvage parts for.

Just my opinion is all.

Yes I will. I carry my 1911 around now and will continue to do so when the zeds pop up. Though I will use a much bigger mag though.

Most comp guns are nothing more then upgraded stock weapons. The 1911 in the above photo is just that. A 1911. It just has an upgraded trigger, barrel, porting, sights, sight rail, grip ect ect.

Well I will defer to your firearms prowess. I am a hobbyist at best, but I do read a lot and retain information very well. I just don't really have a desire for high end target pistols, when the regular pistols still shoot pretty accurately and still kill the same. My buddy has a Kimber and a Colt 1911. Both are nice guns. We went to the range one day and I rented a Springfield 1911, your basic joe $500 to $600 1911. I was putting the same groups in the same targets at the same distance pretty much with every gun. My analysis was that the springfield was heavier, but felt more solid, the Kimber was the lightest of them and had really smooth action, but the trigger on the Colt felt the best.

Different strokes for different folks, and when I buy firearms I buy them in the regard that I may have to use them. I like guns that use standard sets of parts so I can find them anywhere. Don't get me wrong, custom is really cool and I dig'em, but I don't think I am going to drop tons and tons of money on custom unless I get really wealthy. Good old classics that work every time a trigger is pulled and are fairly accurate is all I need/want.

corpsesarefun wrote:

TNM wrote:I have watched LOADS of zombie movies. I have watched zombieland about a hundred thousand times. Follow the rules is my plan. And if I don't have to go out and about stay in my house, barricade it up, Put sniper rifles on the windows, and have loads of ammo food drink. In the thousands of hours of zombies i've watched I have never seen a zombie go into a house.

28 days later, 28 weeks later, shaun of the dead, dawn of the dead remake, dead set, the original night of the living dead.

Hell how have you avoided seeing zombies going into houses?

I got no idea.

Knowing me,I might end up being the guy that caused the outbreak,so my plan is to be imume with my cure samples.

Yea cause that worked out well

KingCracker wrote:Yea cause that worked out well

Dammit KC...ya Ninja'd me...

But excellent point my friend...

My mate recently discovered that his original plan to bunker at our local golf course was not as effective as he originally planned...

He discovered that one of Sydney's oldest cemetaries was in fact in the woodland nearby... unless you know it is there, it is not apparent that it still exists...

This simple fact over-ruled all his careful planning:

The previous plan was to make for the nearby golf course.

It is next to a gun range and has lots of supplies, along with a generator, access to the sea, a fresh water supply and a clear line of sight all around.


Anything else that is missing?

I have 2 plans. Plan 1 involves joining my friends convoy into the desert. Plan 2 involves surviving dwindling navy resources. on a boat that will only be able to pull into a port one more time, and never leave afterward.

If my origional plan would fail ( it probably would) I would probably set off with a group of survivors to rid the world of the flesh eaters. Loot a huge a tank. Get vital supplies.
modify the tank with extra firepower. During the zombie apocolypse if there ain't other people you might as well be a zombie. So rid the world of zombies repopulate the world. and kick the ass of the punk who started it ( if he's still alive).

I'd run around in circles screaming "ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG".
Nah, I'd barricade a small hospital, with as many survivors as I could, with a cricket bat (better die with dignity), a SPAS-12 with lots of ammo, a satellite phone, lots of food, grenades, a two-way radio and a heck of a lot of molotov cocktails/petrol bombs.
That and an exterminatus bombardment waiting in orbit to let rip when I die.
That and Simon Pegg and Nick Frost.
And Will Smith.

TNM wrote:If my origional plan would fail ( it probably would) I would probably set off with a group of survivors to rid the world of the flesh eaters. Loot a huge a tank. Get vital supplies.
modify the tank with extra firepower. During the zombie apocolypse if there ain't other people you might as well be a zombie. So rid the world of zombies repopulate the world. and kick the ass of the punk who started it ( if he's still alive).

You are assuming that you or your friends actually possess the skills and resources to access this... and that the military are not defending the tank you set about to 'loot' themselves...

With a plan this flawed, you may as well become a zombie.

shrike wrote:I'd run around in circles screaming "ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG".
Nah, I'd barricade a small hospital, with as many survivors as I could, with a cricket bat (better die with dignity), a SPAS-12 with lots of ammo, a satellite phone, lots of food, grenades, a two-way radio and a heck of a lot of molotov cocktails/petrol bombs.
That and an exterminatus bombardment waiting in orbit to let rip when I die.
That and Simon Pegg and Nick Frost.
And Will Smith.

As above, except that you assume that the Satellite phone network continues to operate and not bill your account to $0... how would you get electronic funds into your account otherwise? Do you have access to the bank deposit system to keep your account topped up?

The best solution is not to rely too heavily on complex technology...

AvatarForm wrote:
The best solution is not to rely too heavily on complex technology...

Thus my axe dominates once more!

corpsesarefun wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:
The best solution is not to rely too heavily on complex technology...

Thus my axe dominates once more!

pah, that blade might break

my pointy stick and pile of rocks will prevail

FM Ninja 048 wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:
The best solution is not to rely too heavily on complex technology...

Thus my axe dominates once more!

pah, that blade might break

my pointy stick and pile of rocks will prevail

When I say axe I mean splitting maul.


Half sledgehammer, half axe.

corpsesarefun wrote:When I say axe I mean splitting maul.


Half sledgehammer, half axe.

still might break, pointy sticks/ rocks are better

FM Ninja 048 wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:When I say axe I mean splitting maul.


Half sledgehammer, half axe.

still might break, pointy sticks/ rocks are better

Buh?

How the hell do you plan on breaking that?

No thermite explosives are not a valid answer.

I only have close combat weapons...

corpsesarefun wrote:

FM Ninja 048 wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:
The best solution is not to rely too heavily on complex technology...

Thus my axe dominates once more!

pah, that blade might break

my pointy stick and pile of rocks will prevail

When I say axe I mean splitting maul.


Half sledgehammer, half axe.

I understand the muzzle for the bladed end... I picture you wearing it when it is not on the axe head.

Asherian Command wrote:I only have close combat weapons...

CC weapons are not really preferred method of repelling zombies. Maybe for dispatching one or two during an escape route or in a time of need, but keep your distance always.

Why would I wear a muzzle? That stops me biting the zombies...