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Frazzled wrote:
Aflred's old. What hapens when that geezer retires? Indeed how does anyone retire? Everyone else just sorty of fizzles out.

They retire if they have enough money to induce servitude.

Let's be clear, though, I hate children and would be an awful parent. I will never have kids unless the better half drags me into it kicking and screaming (unlikely event). I don't aggressively espouse the view "No one should have children." but I do argue that there are merits to not having children; because there are. I further expect that biological urges, primarily among women, will not let our species die out any time soon. Our culture, maybe, but that doesn't really matter anyway.

daedalus wrote:

Sonophos wrote:
Oh and drug addicts.

I know drug addicts who are more functional in a professional environment than sober people.

Agreed.
It's amazing how some people can function impaired.
Now leave me alone, I'm stoned....

biccat wrote:

dogma wrote:

biccat wrote:
No, I'm saying that the reason I have children is as a favor to my children. My parents did the same for me (and I'll assume yours did for you), so it only seems fair.

By have do you mean "continue to care for"?

Otherwise it seems odd to do favors for a thing that does not exist.

Yes, it does.

So, the existence of your children was accidental?

Your existence was accidental?

alarmingrick wrote:

daedalus wrote:

Sonophos wrote:
Oh and drug addicts.

I know drug addicts who are more functional in a professional environment than sober people.

Agreed.
It's amazing how some people can function impaired.
Now leave me alone, I'm stoned....

What the hell drug other than nicotine are they addicted to that they can function in a job for any long period?

People who insist that someone with a mechanical engineering degree will never be able to get a job as it's a useless degree that has no benefit to society, whilst insisting that his choice of Medieval History Studies is more likely to get a job and benefit society.

People who call other people gay for having a girlfreind.

I don't understand why I missed that momentous point in time where it became acceptable for grown men to engage in all this 'best fwends fowever!!!' stuff. I would never tell someone they were my best friend.


And not just because I naturally like to hedge my bets.

biccat wrote:

dogma wrote:Why do you care if there is one?

As a favor to my children.

Plus, the social security gravy train isn't going to haul itself. We're going to need a new generation of marks contributors.

dogma wrote:My initial response to this was "Then why are you in a gay relationship?" under the assumption that you're a man, and your name is at least somewhat accurate (I assume you're not made of hot sauce).

I now realize "BF" probably means "best friend".

I may be wrong, but I believe hotsauceguy "outed" himself in another thread.

Um, Im straighter then you can be. I just like acting feminine.....because that is who i am.

dogma wrote:So, the existence of your children was accidental?

Your existence was accidental?

I have no idea how you reached that conclusion. I understand, quite well actually, the causal connection that leads to children. Probably better than most*.

Goliath wrote:People who insist that someone with a mechanical engineering degree will never be able to get a job as it's a useless degree that has no benefit to society, whilst insisting that his choice of Medieval History Studies is more likely to get a job and benefit society.

Well, he can always work in the History factory.

hotsauceman1 wrote:Um, Im straighter then you can be. I just like acting feminine.....because that is who i am.

I find the first hilariously untrue and the second dubious.

However, like I said, I was mistaken. I had thought you outed yourself in one of the other threads down here.** My apologies.

* Having an idea of the average educational achievement either in this country or in the world, I feel comfortable making this statement.
** Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I'd say it would be long distance relationships. What good is a date without the cuddles?
I also can't understand it when girls insist they are fat then get mad when you agree with them.
And I don't make heads or tales of people who post on internet forums about miniature wargames.

I do not get why people listen to pop or metal. Or rap or country or techno.... Or really any music besides Ska/ Psychobilly/ Punk

Yeah what is up with long distance relationships? THEY NEVER WORK!

Johnny-Crass wrote:I do not get why people listen to pop or metal. Or rap or country or techno.... Or really any music besides Ska/ Psychobilly/ Punk

I'm gonna take a wild guess and assume you have no idea who Mos Def, Talib Kweli, The Hieroglyphics, The Roots, Rakim, Jurassic 5, etc are...

Asherian Command wrote:Yeah what is up with long distance relationships? THEY NEVER WORK!

Actually I'm proof they can. we just celebrated our 8th anniversary.

CoI wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:Yeah what is up with long distance relationships? THEY NEVER WORK!

Actually I'm proof they can. we just celebrated our 8th anniversary.

Yes thats once. Out of how many people that have tried?

Girls. Nuff said.

biccat wrote:

dogma wrote:So, the existence of your children was accidental?

Your existence was accidental?

I have no idea how you reached that conclusion. I understand, quite well actually, the causal connection that leads to children. Probably better than most*.

Seeing as you only care for your children as a favor to them, I reasoned that you didn't set out with the intention to obtain them; being that we're having a conversation about why people should have them where "have them" means "procreate".

Amaya wrote:

Johnny-Crass wrote:I do not get why people listen to pop or metal. Or rap or country or techno.... Or really any music besides Ska/ Psychobilly/ Punk

I'm gonna take a wild guess and assume you have no idea who Mos Def, Talib Kweli, The Hieroglyphics, The Roots, Rakim, Jurassic 5, etc are...

Ok so there are exceptions to the rules

Also Tech-9

Girls really confuse me, not biologically or anything but just what they do sometimes, like date complete nutheads who don't care about them when there are guys like me who'll treat them like a queen. That's my 2 cents guys.

3Strike wrote:Girls really confuse me, not biologically or anything but just what they do sometimes, like date complete nutheads who don't care about them when there are guys like me who'll treat them like a queen. That's my 2 cents guys.

Be more alpha male.
Work out and start hitting people weaker than you.

3Strike wrote:Girls really confuse me, not biologically or anything but just what they do sometimes, like date complete nutheads who don't care about them when there are guys like me who'll treat them like a queen. That's my 2 cents guys.

Men do it too.

dogma wrote:

3Strike wrote:Girls really confuse me, not biologically or anything but just what they do sometimes, like date complete nutheads who don't care about them when there are guys like me who'll treat them like a queen. That's my 2 cents guys.

Men do it too.

The crazy ones are usually the easy ones who are up for anything, so we have an excuse.

@ Joey, Why though violence doesn't solve anything.

@Dogma, Oh of course but i just dont get why complain about it and not actaully do anything?

@Hotsauceman1, But there's crazy and CRAZY! xD haha

Thanks for hearing me out.

Albatross wrote:I don't understand why I missed that momentous point in time where it became acceptable for grown men to engage in all this 'best fwends fowever!!!' stuff. I would never tell someone they were my best friend.


And not just because I naturally like to hedge my bets.

I did that once when I was 6..

I still shiver with shame at the memory.

3Strike wrote:
@Dogma, Oh of course but i just dont get why complain about it and not actaully do anything?

Why do men complain about their wives?

Not because they really hate them, or that they're really awful (though sometimes they are), but because its something they've accepted as a natural consequence of something good, or at least not bad enough to end the relationship.

For example, as men go, I'm pretty cold. I don't express many emotions, and don't easily speak about my feelings. Its not that I don't have feelings, its that they're not especially strong relative to commonly emotive topics. I've also been trained to not have strong feelings, and I have good control over the feelings that I do have.

Several ex-girlfriends are ex-girlfriends because I am not, in their words, good at expressing my emotions. The current girlfriend mirrors these sentiments, but understands that my relative lack of emotion makes me really good at my job, and also really good when gak hits the fan.

I call my best friend my best friend ever because i have known sense i was 3. im 19 now. and we still take some of the classes.
And i can trust him more thne my family in some cases.

dogma wrote:

For example, as men go, I'm pretty cold. I don't express many emotions, and don't easily speak about my feelings. Its not that I don't have feelings, its that they're not especially strong relative to commonly emotive topics. I've also been trained to not have strong feelings, and I have good control over the feelings that I do have.

Several ex-girlfriends are ex-girlfriends because I am not, in their words, good at expressing my emotions.

Mate you sound exactly like me, I could have written that about myself.

I have always been that way, Im not given to overly emotional displays, especially in front of anybody.



Hey I know!

BEST FRIENDS 4 EEVVAAA



No but seriously. Emotions are for women.

@ Dogma, I'm sorry i should of delve more deeper into what i was saying , I'm more so talking about girls my age and younger, (I'm 17) and I get where you're coming from, completely. My last girlfriend complained alot about me showing that i cared alot about her yet she'd also tell me to show that side of me to her. I can be a cold person, very cold but I can also be that very emotional person. I'm also sometimes very blunt towards certain people and certain things. Life's life, i guess.

mattyrm wrote:
Mate you sound exactly like me, I could have written that about myself.

Do you want your friend bracelet to be pink, or purple, or both?

Mr Hyena wrote:Or, like myself, I find the taste of the majority of vegetables to be quite disgusting.

Which is fair enough. If someone offers you a food and you reply "I've tried that before and I don't like it" you're just being sensible.

No theory is fact. Its theoretical. Thats why its called a theory. Evolution, an example you used, is not fact. There is a massive wealth of evidence for it, that it can be widely believed...but its not fact.

Yeah, it's a line of argument that's made more confusing by the use of the terms theory and fact, as if they were the only two options for what a thing could be.

Instead we have 'scientific theory', which is a term for a collection of repeatable observations and the general explanation for why those things happen. It sits between the general public's understanding of the term 'theory', but stops short of being a 'fact', because there are no facts in science.


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Frazzled wrote:Yep. If you're going to do it, quit cheating.

By the way (not to you Easy E). Seaweed IS a plant.

I get confused by people who decide what other people's life decisions ought to consist of.

So, for instance, someone saying they're vegetarian, and then someone else coming in to tell them what that ought to mean, and what foods they should and shouldn't be eating.

Or someone saying they're Christian, and someone else coming in to tell them what that ought to mean, and how they should be living their life.

It's their ethos, applied by themselves, to themselves - let them live it as they see fit.


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Frazzled wrote:Sophistic nonsense. I did not know being vegetarian requires a legalistic viewpoint of organisms...

You started the sophistic nonsense!


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sourclams wrote:'The Third' has connotations of elitism and WASP-ish east coast aristocracy.

'Junior-Junior' suggests a humbleness of origins and grammatically incorrectness that fits in better with the 'two first names' crowd that make up NASCAR's target demographic.

FWIW, I only know two 'The Third' people; one was a complete douchebag, the other was a nice down-to-earth guy... definitely more of a Junior-Junior in my mind.

The whole Junior and The Third thing puzzles me. Why not just give your kid an original name? Fortunately this seems to occur only among Americans and extremely twee aristocrats.


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dogma wrote:Not the doctor?

Anyway, I don't understand why men claim to not understand women*, they aren't that different (aside from the obvious physiological issues).



*This is a lie.

This one used to puzzle me too, then I think I figured it out. It isn't that men and women are that different, it's that we don't understand either men or women*, but we only notice it about women because we try to have relationships with women.

There's an example in this thread, right now, with 3Strike wondering why women date guys that treat them badly, and not guys that would treat them well. Well guys do the same, falling for girls that take them for granted, it's just that guys don't notice, or think too much on other guy's doing that... because who cares, they're just guys and you're not trying to have sex with them.




*I mean if you seriously sat down and tried to figure out why you do the things you do, can you really make sense of your own life decisions, let alone anyone else's?


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liquidjoshi wrote:Why people go onto threads obviously not concerning them (I.e. Brony threads) and commenting things such as "WTH is wrong with you?!?!?", and more along those lines. Hey, I don;t go onto your football (English) thread and say "You're messed up in the head, watching 22 fully grown men, with a combined IQ lower than that of one said animated horse, chase a ball around a muddy pitch all day."

Honestly, it isn't trolling, it's called being a donkey cave. Why do people do it? I honestly cannot fathom it. I guess to induce nerdrage, but that would be like trying to turn a GK to Chaos.

Good one. It's like the people who go into threads that are for people who loved a movie, or love a certain game or whatever (because it's titled "I loved this movie and everything about it and want to talk about all the good bits about this movie") and yet you still get people who have to come in and point out they don't like that particular thing. They just have to let everyone know they don't like someone's favourite new thing.


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biccat wrote:No, I'm saying that the reason I have children is as a favor to my children. My parents did the same for me (and I'll assume yours did for you), so it only seems fair.

In all seriousness, this attitude is a thing that really puzzles me.

I want to have kids, I expect to be trying fairly soon. But we're going to try for kids because we want them, no more, no less.

The idea of producing and raising kids out of social expectation is something I just do not get.

Why cops fear kids. I mean I know why but really...