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Yuk, that's ugly

So it seems GW have finally found a way to make plastic SM fliers that don't look completely arse; knock-off versions of far superior Forgeworld designs.

I don't get an immediate "wow I wants it, the preciousss!" reaction, but it doesn't inspire the same kind of visceral disgust brought about by the ChibiHawk or Yo-Dawg-I-Herd-U-Liek-suits so it may grow on me over time.

I hope the actual model is a dual-build; the "gunship" shown above, and a second option with Rhino-esque capacity and a Caestus-like front section.

yeah,
The rumor of a second build 16 man transport makes sense if the ship loses the helfrost canon and becomes an empty hull with a assault ramp at the front.





Panic...

I need Storm Raven wings and engines, a couple of multi-melta barrels, and a land raider front hatch...

Btw I love that flyer. I can think of many ways on how I can use it.

Like putting Wolf Guard unit in it and a Rune Priest/maybe a Wolf Lord.

yeah,
Just read a awesome Hitchhiker's quote on facebook.

"The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't."

Panic...

 Yodhrin wrote:
So it seems GW have finally found a way to make plastic SM fliers that don't look completely arse; knock-off versions of far superior Forgeworld designs.

I don't get an immediate "wow I wants it, the preciousss!" reaction, but it doesn't inspire the same kind of visceral disgust brought about by the ChibiHawk or Yo-Dawg-I-Herd-U-Liek-suits so it may grow on me over time.

Yeah. The reaction to the Chibi-Hawk was a big "WTF?". This looks like a Marine vehicle. It's a flying brick, their choices (flying gun rather than flying breaching weapon) are stupid, and the wings are pathetically small... but it looks right for the Marines.

Just wish it wasn't covered in Wolf iconography.

TeslaFromage wrote:Btw I love that flyer. I can think of many ways on how I can use it.

Like putting Wolf Guard unit in it and a Rune Priest/maybe a Wolf Lord.

Depends if it has an assault Ramp like Storm Ravens or Land Raiders, and to an extent on the AV. As you're going into Hover mode to disembark, the gunship is at risk, and if you can't assault from it, then 6 SW in the enemy's face aren't going to last long unless you have a ton of threat overload.

Panic wrote:yeah,
Just read a awesome Hitchhiker's quote on facebook.

"The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't."

Panic...

1) have an exalt for the quote.

2) I will never look at SM fliers in the same way again....


With the rectangular profile and the rear-mounted swivel engines, this really reminds me a little of the Decepticon fliers in Transformers 3.

That looks awesome actually. I wonder if you can combine 2 in mid air to make a Caestus assault ram

Also props for a clear 1st leaked photo(s).

 Panic wrote:
The rumor of a second build 16 man transport makes sense if the ship loses the helfrost canon and becomes an empty hull with a assault ramp at the front.

If true, then it's fething perfect (well, except for the tiny T-Rex wings).

I don't have a whole lot of experience with SM flyers, having never used the Stormraven myself.

But... looking at that flyer almost gives me a headache. How does it fly, much less lift-off? I'm not an aviation buff, I don't actually know gak about how planes work in real life, and I don't expect sci-fi / fantasy flying vehicles to be faithful to realistic flying physics. But god damn, just the sheer... aesthetic of the model, every aspect of its design, fills my mind with a visceral image of the pilot gunning the engines, the back end lifting up and the nose burying itself into the ground.

It's just... so incredibly back-heavy.

There's a gunship and a transport variant so it will ttansport more than 6 in the troop variant. 6 man gunship variant.

yeah,

Makes sense.

Panic...

 Wise Guy Sam wrote:
Also props for a clear 1st leaked photo(s).

You raise a good point. These photos are actual photos and not some photography student's conceptual take on the 'found footage' genre.

Am I seeing the same flier as everyone else who thinks it looks good because to me it looks like an ugly as all hell brick?

 BlaxicanX wrote:
I don't have a whole lot of experience with SM flyers, having never used the Stormraven myself.

But... looking at that flyer almost gives me a headache. How does it fly, much less lift-off? I'm not an aviation buff, I don't actually know gak about how planes work in real life, and I don't expect sci-fi / fantasy flying vehicles to be faithful to realistic flying physics. But god damn, just the sheer... aesthetic of the model, every aspect of its design, fills my mind with a visceral image of the pilot gunning the engines, the back end lifting up and the nose burying itself into the ground.

It's just... so incredibly back-heavy.

In the same way Land Speeders, Hammerheads, Falcons and Raiders do. With a bit more oomph, although Falcons can actually fly on high altitudes..

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Am I seeing the same flier as everyone else who thinks it looks good because to me it looks like an ugly as all hell brick?

People have different aesthetic tastes? Stop the press!

Trying to figure out how this is supposed to be an assault transport, the only thing I can think of is that the Space Wolves ride standing on top of it allowing them to treat it as an open-topped transport without it actually being open-topped.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Am I seeing the same flier as everyone else who thinks it looks good because to me it looks like an ugly as all hell brick?

It's one of these split in half, minus the wings.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Am I seeing the same flier as everyone else who thinks it looks good because to me it looks like an ugly as all hell brick?

Which is why people love it. It's an ugly as hell brick in an army of ugly as hell bricks. It's perfect!

If it weren't for the forward mounted gun and the position of the cockpit, I'd say you could actually have a pretty slick (and cunning) B-Wing fighter thing going on there, where the "nose" actually dips down when the thrusters kick up and it kind of just "hangs" in the air, in a T-shape.

Even that wouldn't make much sense, but, the nose is just so damn long that it bugs me that it can somehow fly up and forward looking like that.

But anyway... enough complaining about that. Let's see some official rules leaks!

 Panic wrote:
yeah,

Makes sense.

Panic...

It look me about twenty seconds to figure out what you were going for but, seriously, exalted

 BlaxicanX wrote:
If it weren't for the forward mounted gun and the position of the cockpit, I'd say you could actually have a pretty slick (and cunning) B-Wing fighter thing going on there, where the "nose" actually dips down when the thrusters kick up and it kind of just "hangs" in the air, in a T-shape.

I can go one better. Spin it upright, engines perpendicular to the body, cockpit somehow reversed, guns removed. Mount swivel guns to the lower end, extra engines on the back. Slave 1 is go!

Love it, I think it's the angle making the wings look so small. Anyway, looks like it was designed to work in space a la Caestus Assault Ram so large wings aren't necessary. Great sculpt imo.

Is it just me or are there alot of similarities between this some of the concept art for the Caestus Assault Ram? (The top left hand corner)



I really hope forge world do something with this chassis, its pretty dam cool.

Haljin wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Am I seeing the same flier as everyone else who thinks it looks good because to me it looks like an ugly as all hell brick?

People have different aesthetic tastes? Stop the press!

Well of course. I'm not surprised there are people who like it, I'm surprised at the number of people who like it. Upon seeing the pictures I was expecting more like 90% "that thing is ugly" and 10% "I want it to have my babies", not the other way around.

GW impressively manages to continue to raise the bar on stupid looking models yet again!

They must have a running bet on how they can keep making increasingly ugly PoC and still get their customers to buy them...

So the engineer in me is having a bit of trouble with it due to the aforementioned wings. I'll have to assume it has anti-grav dongles all over it for lift purposes, and that the wings are just for maneuvering (slowly).

Still, I expected worse. I hoped for better, but I expected worse. I'd like to see the other version.

And I then assume that the Stormfang is the only release this week???

As a SW player, I'm happy we finally got a flyer and it has some nice weaponry. I'm not happy that it's the ugliest fething thing I've ever seen. It's a flying brick with tiny wings that would crash nose first the instant it went onto a planet with an atmosphere. I always thought the caestus assault ram was ugly, so they chopped it in half and put even smaller wings on it? I think I'm going to buy the storm eagle which looks similar but manages to look about 100 times better.

Variant from Warseer.

Love it even more.



Credit to Felweather.