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LordofHats wrote: It's also possible Marvel will simply do the same thing as Elder Scrolls when it comes to "time stuff." I.E. If there is a divergence of events in time, the magic super dragon (Akatosh, or in Marvel's case the Time Stone itself), simply stitches time back into one thread by merging the timelines.
All timelines happen, run their course, then get stitched back up into a single line at the end. ES calls it a Dragon Break and it's the tidiest/coolest way of explaining time paradoxes I've ever seen in fiction. I'd like that route
I like Discworld's approach, where the History Monks just steal time from other parts of history to put it all back together as needed, since only the most obsessive of historians will notice the differences, anyway. Just always remember Rule One.
That's funny.
Part of me suspects we'll probably see a movie tackling the time paradox issue, maybe the next Ant-Man or Doctor Strange 2.
malfred wrote: I have no problem with the girls banding up and not really
accomplishing much. That describes Infinity War
Seriously, the shot just shows that they recognize each other and
will fight together as needed. It's a tease for future teamups
and a reminder that not all endeavors are successful (the entire
plot of Infinitywar/Endgame)
Not gonna lie when i saw the movie i was thinking they showed too little of Captain Marvel for a while and then the ship just randomly starts shooting at something and i sighed knowing who it was. She wrecks the whole ship solo. Grand entrance yeah but a bit cringy for a new-comer that's automatically the best. The all-girl team up did seem a bit like a "Girl Power!!!" moment. Am i weird for noticing sometimes they put Captain Marvel in the very front of the movie and in other parts she's way in the background almost like they're trying to distance her from the movie? I understand she was busy in Captain Marvel probably while doing this so maybe that makes sense but in some cases it felt like they were parading her and also avoiding her. It just felt a bit weird. Aside from that the movie was pretty good.
I enjoyed the actual comedy of the movie "Big Lebowski", "America's Ass" and "He's an idiot isn't he?"
I honestly expected Iron Man to die and it was sad he did esp. being a family man and all. I didn't see Black Widow going though which also sucks big time. Captain America's ending was actually rather happy.
The only real issue of the movie was Captain Marvel being a little too in the lead for a newbie and the fact the actress that plays her has next to no facial expressions (mostly 2 of them like b**** face expression and nothing's happening expression though the movie had her crack a half-smile like once). I suppose we could complain about Arnold or Sylvester Stallone for the same things but at least they looked like tough characters that were attractive to some people at least. Of course people give them crap for it as well so Brie can't get a free pass here.
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LordofHats wrote: It's also possible Marvel will simply do the same thing as Elder Scrolls when it comes to "time stuff." I.E. If there is a divergence of events in time, the magic super dragon (Akatosh, or in Marvel's case the Time Stone itself), simply stitches time back into one thread by merging the timelines.
All timelines happen, run their course, then get stitched back up into a single line at the end. ES calls it a Dragon Break and it's the tidiest/coolest way of explaining time paradoxes I've ever seen in fiction. I'd like that route
I like Discworld's approach, where the History Monks just steal time from other parts of history to put it all back together as needed, since only the most obsessive of historians will notice the differences, anyway. Just always remember Rule One.
That's funny.
Part of me suspects we'll probably see a movie tackling the time paradox issue, maybe the next Ant-Man or Doctor Strange 2.
AduroT wrote: If you can’t change the present by going to the past, how did old Steve get on that bench?
And sure, they have tech that lets them go forward and backwards in time. How do they hop between different alternate timelines?
Because either A) Cap always makes that choice and it's part of all branches every time. B) We have always been watching that branch. or C) The movie switched over to that branch when Steve went back in time.
I assume timelines that split off can merge together again once they're free of significant differences. Thinking the universe really cares whether you had Chex or Lucky Charms this morning has always felt a little self important. If putting the stones back can correct the timeline, then going back and living a simple life doesn't necessarily have to alter it either.
Well THAT time line does have 2 significant splits.
1) Loki grabs the space stone and feths off. We have no idea what that means yet. Loki show coming in November.
2) Thanos and Co. went to the future and never came back. That means no Gamora for either of the Guardians movies, no Nebula either, no infinity war or end game, no half the remaining Asgaurdians dieing in space.... It changes potentially a lot.
Those events happened at different times. So does that mean there is 2 time lines here? The "original" and the one with both divergences? 3? one for each? 4? one for each and one with both? Then toss in the cap staying back.
Doesn't actually matter. Just food for thought.
Yeah, Loki is definitely the big one. It would be interesting if the universe could "course correct" for the lack of Thanos though. It's worth noting that by the end of the story he's dead regardless of timeline so the paradox would technically close if not for the billions he killed directly in the 10ish years he skipped.
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flamingkillamajig wrote: (mostly 2 of them like b**** face expression and nothing's happening expression though the movie had her crack a half-smile like once). I suppose we could complain about Arnold or Sylvester Stallone for the same things but at least they looked like tough characters that were attractive to some people at least. Of course people give them crap for it as well so Brie can't get a free pass here.
So your criticism is that she does something other actors do, but it's bad for her because she isn't tough/pretty?
Is there a part of this criticism that actually revolves around anything other than being a sexist pig, or do you really think no one is going to notice the sexist pig comment in this mostly meaningless dribble.
Every actor in the MCU basically has 2 max 3 expressions (and they all pull from the same pool of about 9), so is there a point here other than value flagging how much you don't like Brie Larson?
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Wishing I was back at the South Atlantic, closer to ice than the sun
An identity question;
Spoiler:
At the end with the wreath the camera panned over the assembled mourners. I could identify all but one. It was the single man with the black hair, appearing just shortly before the camera got to Capt Marvel. Anyone know?
Ta
I don't care what the flag says, I'm SCOTTISH!!!
Best definition of the word Battleship?
Mr Nobody wrote:
Does a canoe with a machine gun count?
It could be the naturally all timelines converge back together no matter what.
Like, too many time lines cause a problem.
For example, Loki, Maybe he got cought just a little bit later so spent a bit shorter time in asgard jail. Or he did die but this loki is bumming around with the Tesseract.
For example. Cap went back in time to live with peggy, created and alternate timeline, then after that timeline went for a decade or 2, it converged and joined with the original allowing him back into the new timeline.
I feel like Loki learned a little after Avengers 1. Towards the end of the film he seemed to understand Thor's point that invading Earth was madness and even seemed to somewhat regret starting it at all. He didn't get the development the character got in Thor 2 or 3, but there was a little bit of a shift in how he was behaving after Avengers.
Looking up the TV series (cause I never bothered to read on it before), it seems to be about Loki traveling through time. Maybe Space Stone + Pym Particle = Time Travel? Bit of a Lost in Time sort of situation?
flamingkillamajig wrote: (mostly 2 of them like b**** face expression and nothing's happening expression though the movie had her crack a half-smile like once). I suppose we could complain about Arnold or Sylvester Stallone for the same things but at least they looked like tough characters that were attractive to some people at least. Of course people give them crap for it as well so Brie can't get a free pass here.
So your criticism is that she does something other actors do, but it's bad for her because she isn't tough/pretty?
Is there a part of this criticism that actually revolves around anything other than being a sexist pig, or do you really think no one is going to notice the sexist pig comment in this mostly meaningless dribble.
Every actor in the MCU basically has 2 max 3 expressions (and they all pull from the same pool of about 9), so is there a point here other than value flagging how much you don't like Brie Larson?
First off thanks for the insult i'm sure that'd go over well with the mods. 2nd i also criticize stallone and arnold and say all 3 deserve the criticism but you look right passed that one. I even said up till her re-entrance into the fight she was actually shown too little but they kinda over-emphasize her during the battleship scene. Every other female character had fairly average strength. Her's was probably at the top in strength though this is her 2nd movie. It just feels un-earned.
Read the rest of what i posted as i also talked about the comedy of the movie i enjoyed. I liked the Guardians as well as captain america and other scenes but i mean hey if you want to insult me and throw around the 'sexist' word that's fine. That word's kinda lost all meaning by being used too much these days anyway for pretty much anything that even remotely resembled criticism of a woman even when it's legit. Notice i didn't insult any other female character in the cast except the fact they did a full 'Girl Power!' scene. It was just kinda not needed. You already have the girls fighting so there's no need to throw all the girls together to show it esp. when in the heat of battle it makes more sense just to have whoever is close to captain marvel fighting at her side.
No way that's actually pretty cool. I liked that kid's character. Up till tony had his daughter that guy was like a son to him. Was a pretty good part of that movie.
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flamingkillamajig wrote: First off thanks for the insult i'm sure that'd go over well with the mods. 2nd i also criticize stallone and arnold and say all 3 deserve the criticism but you look right passed that one. I even said up till her re-entrance into the fight she was actually shown too little but they kinda over-emphasize her during the battleship scene. Every other female character had fairly average strength. Her's was probably at the top in strength though this is her 2nd movie. It just feels un-earned.
What did Hulk do to pretty much earn the title "strongest avenger" in the Avenger movie which was also the first appearence of the character? Since when do Superhero "earn" the right to be powerful? Technically, Wanda does alone what Thor, Stark and Cap couldn't do together. Did she earned it? She never had a solo-movie before. It seems like a strange criticism.
flamingkillamajig wrote: First off thanks for the insult i'm sure that'd go over well with the mods. 2nd i also criticize stallone and arnold and say all 3 deserve the criticism but you look right passed that one. I even said up till her re-entrance into the fight she was actually shown too little but they kinda over-emphasize her during the battleship scene. Every other female character had fairly average strength. Her's was probably at the top in strength though this is her 2nd movie. It just feels un-earned.
What did Hulk do to pretty much earn the title "strongest avenger" in the Avenger movie which was also the first appearence of the character? Since when do Superhero "earn" the right to be powerful? Technically, Wanda does alone what Thor, Stark and Cap couldn't do together. Did she earned it? She never had a solo-movie before. It seems like a strange criticism.
I dunno i feel like there are just better less political actresses out there than brie larson. Actresses that have a greater range of expression and even if they didn't at least it's not blank face or angry resting face. Perhaps it's also the fact she's kinda taking the reins of the Marvel franchise after everybody else goes. I'd be lying if i said in general that she doesn't make me somewhat bitter. Of course i'm not the biggest marvel fan so i could still just watch what i want and to not watch what i wish not to watch.
AduroT wrote: If you can’t change the present by going to the past, how did old Steve get on that bench?
And sure, they have tech that lets them go forward and backwards in time. How do they hop between different alternate timelines?
Because either A) Cap always makes that choice and it's part of all branches every time. B) We have always been watching that branch. or C) The movie switched over to that branch when Steve went back in time.
I assume timelines that split off can merge together again once they're free of significant differences. Thinking the universe really cares whether you had Chex or Lucky Charms this morning has always felt a little self important. If putting the stones back can correct the timeline, then going back and living a simple life doesn't necessarily have to alter it either.
Well THAT time line does have 2 significant splits.
1) Loki grabs the space stone and feths off. We have no idea what that means yet. Loki show coming in November.
2) Thanos and Co. went to the future and never came back. That means no Gamora for either of the Guardians movies, no Nebula either, no infinity war or end game, no half the remaining Asgaurdians dieing in space.... It changes potentially a lot.
Those events happened at different times. So does that mean there is 2 time lines here? The "original" and the one with both divergences? 3? one for each? 4? one for each and one with both? Then toss in the cap staying back.
Doesn't actually matter. Just food for thought.
Honestly i don't get into time travel in movies. I enjoyed how the movie also talked about like every time travel movie ever and how they just don't tend to make sense. Those are incredibly valid points though with Loki and Thanos. It's just i've never seen any time travel explanation in a movie make sense so far.
Lol at how poor Ant Man can't get any respect. Poor guy. I'd take a picture with you man.
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flamingkillamajig wrote: I dunno i feel like there are just better less political actresses out there than brie larson. Actresses that have a greater range of expression and even if they didn't at least it's not blank face or angry resting face.
I don't know the character in a comic book, but it make sense that a tomboyish soldier would not be the most expressive range. She's supposed to be serious and disciplined and when she's not, she's supposed to brash and cynical. You might not be a fan of that type of character, but that's not really the actress fault. I don't view Larson as a political actress. She hasn't played in any political or judicial drama with a clear political message or been seriously involved in certain cause. She's not a Gal Gadot, Emma Watson, Denzel Washington, Steven Seagal, Russel Means, Mel Gibson, etc.
Perhaps it's also the fact she's kinda taking the reins of the Marvel franchise after everybody else goes. I'd be lying if i said in general that she doesn't make me somewhat bitter. Of course i'm not the biggest marvel fan so i could still just watch what i want and to not watch what i wish not to watch.
I don't think she was setup to be the leader of the New Avengers cast. She is definitely going to take a good spot, but she will certainly share the position with Strange, Ant-Man and Spiderman. In fact, it's probable that Spiderman is going to take the spot of the star of the new cast. We will have
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flamingkillamajig wrote: I dunno i feel like there are just better less political actresses out there than brie larson.
To make a longer post short, this isn't the "gak on Brie Larson thread." That "thread" got locked and not that long ago either. Go make a new one if that's what you want to do (speaking of things the mods will love). You can't be naive enough to think you can drag it in here and not get called out on it, especially if you're just going to mix it with really bizarre comments that can't be called anything but sexist garbage. If you don't like your comments being called for what they are I can only say endeavor to comment better?
epronovost wrote: I don't think she was setup to be the leader of the New Avengers cast. She is definitely going to take a good spot, but she will certainly share the position with Strange, Ant-Man and Spiderman. In fact, it's probable that Spiderman is going to take the spot of the star of the new cast.
Maybe should we start a betting pool? I'll put 2 Internets on T'Challa being "New Cap." Or maybe Sam Cap will be New Cap?
Actually now I'm curious what a new Cap film would be like with Sam in it. He's not a super soldier. He doesn't have quite the same level of overwhelming morality Steve possessed. Would he add the shield to his Falcon persona, or actually call himself Captain America to carry on the name? We need trailers dang it.
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flamingkillamajig wrote: First off thanks for the insult i'm sure that'd go over well with the mods. 2nd i also criticize stallone and arnold and say all 3 deserve the criticism but you look right passed that one. I even said up till her re-entrance into the fight she was actually shown too little but they kinda over-emphasize her during the battleship scene. Every other female character had fairly average strength. Her's was probably at the top in strength though this is her 2nd movie. It just feels un-earned.
What did Hulk do to pretty much earn the title "strongest avenger" in the Avenger movie which was also the first appearence of the character? Since when do Superhero "earn" the right to be powerful? Technically, Wanda does alone what Thor, Stark and Cap couldn't do together. Did she earned it? She never had a solo-movie before. It seems like a strange criticism.
I dunno i feel like there are just better less political actresses out there than brie larson. Actresses that have a greater range of expression and even if they didn't at least it's not blank face or angry resting face. Perhaps it's also the fact she's kinda taking the reins of the Marvel franchise after everybody else goes. I'd be lying if i said in general that she doesn't make me somewhat bitter. Of course i'm not the biggest marvel fan so i could still just watch what i want and to not watch what i wish not to watch.
Nobody has said Captain Marvel was taking over anything. And Wanda was CLEARLY the most powerful person in that or any fight thus far. Scarlett Witch needed a Air Strike just to get her to back off. Not injure her or stop her. Just to make it so Thanos wasn't getting completely trounced. This line of thinking is the same crappy line of thinking that got people worried that Carol was going to show up, over shadow all the old crew and beat Thanos on her own.
Brie Larson has good range and is a fine actress. And her "politics" are "I like when women get real acting jobs and little girls have female heroes to look up to". It's not like Mel Gibson who's politics is hoping gang rape on women while shouting racial slurs. There is nothing to be offended by there.
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
flamingkillamajig wrote: First off thanks for the insult i'm sure that'd go over well with the mods. 2nd i also criticize stallone and arnold and say all 3 deserve the criticism but you look right passed that one. I even said up till her re-entrance into the fight she was actually shown too little but they kinda over-emphasize her during the battleship scene. Every other female character had fairly average strength. Her's was probably at the top in strength though this is her 2nd movie. It just feels un-earned.
What did Hulk do to pretty much earn the title "strongest avenger" in the Avenger movie which was also the first appearence of the character? Since when do Superhero "earn" the right to be powerful? Technically, Wanda does alone what Thor, Stark and Cap couldn't do together. Did she earned it? She never had a solo-movie before. It seems like a strange criticism.
I dunno i feel like there are just better less political actresses out there than brie larson. Actresses that have a greater range of expression and even if they didn't at least it's not blank face or angry resting face. Perhaps it's also the fact she's kinda taking the reins of the Marvel franchise after everybody else goes. I'd be lying if i said in general that she doesn't make me somewhat bitter. Of course i'm not the biggest marvel fan so i could still just watch what i want and to not watch what i wish not to watch.
Nobody has said Captain Marvel was taking over anything. And Wanda was CLEARLY the most powerful person in that or any fight thus far. Scarlett Witch needed a Air Strike just to get her to back off. Not injure her or stop her. Just to make it so Thanos wasn't getting completely trounced. This line of thinking is the same crappy line of thinking that got people worried that Carol was going to show up, over shadow all the old crew and beat Thanos on her own.
Brie Larson has good range and is a fine actress. And her "politics" are "I like when women get real acting jobs and little girls have female heroes to look up to". It's not like Mel Gibson who's politics is hoping gang rape on women while shouting racial slurs. There is nothing to be offended by there.
Brie does it in such a negative way. Even rubbed the OG stars wrong. Her stance may be “good” but she goes about it in so many wrong ways as some people with a stance like hers does. She is like... the Monica risk of the marvel universe. Whines and bags about things people don’t care about. I honestly could care less if a woman is a super hero or never gets a super hero part. Just like I card less when they allowed women into the special forces in my military branch. They of course then cried for “easier physical tests cause women logic” and we said no (thank god) and told them pass the current one or don’t be special forces..
flamingkillamajig wrote: First off thanks for the insult i'm sure that'd go over well with the mods. 2nd i also criticize stallone and arnold and say all 3 deserve the criticism but you look right passed that one. I even said up till her re-entrance into the fight she was actually shown too little but they kinda over-emphasize her during the battleship scene. Every other female character had fairly average strength. Her's was probably at the top in strength though this is her 2nd movie. It just feels un-earned.
What did Hulk do to pretty much earn the title "strongest avenger" in the Avenger movie which was also the first appearence of the character? Since when do Superhero "earn" the right to be powerful? Technically, Wanda does alone what Thor, Stark and Cap couldn't do together. Did she earned it? She never had a solo-movie before. It seems like a strange criticism.
I dunno i feel like there are just better less political actresses out there than brie larson. Actresses that have a greater range of expression and even if they didn't at least it's not blank face or angry resting face. Perhaps it's also the fact she's kinda taking the reins of the Marvel franchise after everybody else goes. I'd be lying if i said in general that she doesn't make me somewhat bitter. Of course i'm not the biggest marvel fan so i could still just watch what i want and to not watch what i wish not to watch.
Nobody has said Captain Marvel was taking over anything. And Wanda was CLEARLY the most powerful person in that or any fight thus far. Scarlett Witch needed a Air Strike just to get her to back off. Not injure her or stop her. Just to make it so Thanos wasn't getting completely trounced. This line of thinking is the same crappy line of thinking that got people worried that Carol was going to show up, over shadow all the old crew and beat Thanos on her own.
Brie Larson has good range and is a fine actress. And her "politics" are "I like when women get real acting jobs and little girls have female heroes to look up to". It's not like Mel Gibson who's politics is hoping gang rape on women while shouting racial slurs. There is nothing to be offended by there.
Brie does it in such a negative way. Even rubbed the OG stars wrong. Her stance may be “good” but she goes about it in so many wrong ways as some people with a stance like hers does. She is like... the Monica risk of the marvel universe. Whines and bags about things people don’t care about. I honestly could care less if a woman is a super hero or never gets a super hero part. Just like I card less when they allowed women into the special forces in my military branch. They of course then cried for “easier physical tests cause women logic” and we said no (thank god) and told them pass the current one or don’t be special forces..
1) There is no "they". Women are not a single collective. There are whiny bitch females just like there are whiny bitch males. If you don't like being lumped in with scum sexist racist ass holes who didn't like movies because women then I think it's fair to say that you shouldn't lump everyone with a pair of tits into a single negative group either.
2) I have seen nothing that said any Marvel actors did not like the way she was delivering her message. Everything I have seen about any Marvel actors is that they all get a long really well. If anyone did get rubbed the wrong way by how she went about it.... who gives a gak? Lets just run with the idea that Brie Larson lacks tact in explaining what she thinks. Boo fething hoo. Whos being whiny now? There is no risk. If Disney thought there was risk she would get fired like they have already done. There is just a group of people who take offense at gak that is not offensive because they don't like the message.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
At this point who cares honestly, I was happily reading this thread until the "usual suspects" as lordofhats called it started with this nonsense again, why can't you just leave it alone, some people do not like her, let it go, so tired of the fake outrage on other people's behalf.
Can't we talk about where we think the franchise is going or something instead of rehashing the same tired "ism/IST/phone" line that these threads nearly always fall into.
Broadly speaking, 2/3rds of it. A lot of the last act though, felt rather contrived.
Disclaimer: A lot of this is taken from my own point of view. In other words, add 'in my opinion' on a lot of these statements. I've had people get upset at me already for not thinking this is the greatest film ever made (Sidenote: Infinity War was great... In my opinion.)
So the good:
Thor. And Thor + Mum. Pretty much a lot of Thor, really, throughout the film. Hulk and Ant-Man were highlights too.
Most of the scenes in the past on Earth were great.
I loved "On your Left." - Big damn heroes moment, yes!
Marvel finally acknowledges gay people exist, in a single word of dialogue that wasn't left on the cutting room floor. It only took them 22 films to do so.
Things I didn't like:
Hawkeye gone edgy was pretty ridiculous.
I have so many problems with the Soul Stone sequence... Hawkeye doesn't sacrifice Widow, Widow sacrifices herself... "No please, let me kill myself, I should do it, no me!" I can't help but think the superhero movie of me would have felt that Nat waking up alongside Hawkeye in the river would have worked out better - Cosmic Justice and all that, rewarding for sacrificing yourself etc. Then there's the whole thing of we're apparently getting a long overdue movie of a dead character...
Dunking on the rules of other time travel movies felt rather mean-spirited, for them to then, apparently, break their own rules with Steve at the end.
The all-girls teaming up moment scene. It felt rather... Cynical to me? Sort of like, "hey everyone, we care about female characters, see, right, right.... Right... Bueller...?" Of course, having killed off their main female character, that never got a movie, and shortly after she got some real proper character development.
On that note of character development and closure. Like I said, I loved Tony's scene with his dad, but it kind of feels... Worthless... Overall, considering noone ever knows it happened. I'll get onto Tony's death later but it feels, at least, they could have moved up Tony's farewell video to him filming it before the Hulk-snap, and having him talk about it to his daughter.
"The Gauntlet that can do anything, except this thing" felt really arbitrary. Like I said, contrived. A lot of it felt like, "this thing happens because the plot says it needs to happen and this thing can't happen." I don't know how I'd solve it personally. But having someone just straight up say, "Gauntlet says no" feels like shoddy writing to me.
Cap going back in time, then showing up in the present makes my head hurt. - Does this mean he was at Peggy's funeral. - Oh, and the complete abandonment of the Sharon Carter character entirely...
Ok, Tony's death... Plot says Tony needs to die, so Tony snaps the gauntlet. Why? What reason was there to do so? Badguys ship was boomed, good guys were essentially winning the fight. You could just have played keep away longer. There just didn't feel a *need* for Tony to snap the gauntlet.
Personally I would have preferred, if the time travel van plan worked (which was great really, and an exception to my 'contrived' complaint, cause that van was there and might have survived in some shape. I would have gone with - Cap gets the gauntlet and dives through. If you really, really needed to kill Tony (I'd argue you didn't need to, he's already done the 'sacrificial play' thing in the first Avengers movie), you could have had him take a bullet/anti-vibranium-sword for Cap as he jumps through.
So, the way I would have liked it is, Cap goes back in time with the Stones. Leaves the Soul Stone for last. - We get Cap meeting Red Skull one last time. Lets say if the Hawkeye/Nat scene was the same as before (because other people do like it, even if I didn't). There's the "soul for a soul" speech.
Cap dives off the cliff and we get the 'soul stone' colour hue reminiscent of Thanos talking with young-Gamora at the end of Infinity War. Except it's Cap talking with Nat. Cap smiles at her, grinning. "We did it, you did it. We saved them. "I think this is it, Natalya, I think my job is done, I'm... tired. And your family is looking for you..." He reaches up, squeezing her shoulder.
There's a flash. And Black Widow's standing in front of the van, as Thanos' army disappears, fading out, rather than dusting (time paradox).
Film continues until the ending. Final scene. Voice, English, female. "I've been waiting for that dance." The last shot of the film is Peggy dancing with Steve, with the orange morning sun soulstone background.
Anyway, that's Compel's headcanon ending.
EDIT: The thought occurs to me, my opinion of Endgame is very similar to my opinion of Mass Effect 3, both being vast, sprawling epics. - I enjoy the vast majority of the final iteration of them, but when it ultimately comes to tying everything up together at the finale/conclusion of it in the very final act, I end up being frustrated.
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I didn't even realize how badly I want to see this moment until you mentioned it. Would have made a great after credit's scene, and much more somber than most of them usually are.
EDIT: The thought occurs to me, my opinion of Endgame is very similar to my opinion of Mass Effect 3, both being vast, sprawling epics. - I enjoy the vast majority of the final iteration of them, but when it ultimately comes to tying everything up together at the finale/conclusion of it in the very final act, I end up being frustrated.
This is how I felt at the end of Black Panther, though for different reasons.
I think Endgame's closing act is going to be contentious a lot mostly because different people have different standards for how far the Rule of Cool can be stretched before it snaps. Valkyrie suddenly having her Pegasus back has been bothering me mildly since someone here mentioned it.
Where does one find a winged horse in what appears to be Scotland?
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Are people still talking about the Girl Power moment?
Let me help you.
One of the heroines was the Scarlet Witch, whose super power is "whatever the writer feels like" up to and including blowing up an infinity gem and taking on Thanos one on one.
Compel wrote: I think it's supposed to be Norway. But yeah, I saw it and immediately went "that's Scotland" (and was confirmed in the credits I think).
Well, to be fair if they had Winged Horses anywhere they would have them in Norway XD
So why did a half dozen women assemble at once?
Because the Scarlet Witch wanted them to.
Done.
This... actually makes a disturbing amount of sense.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: If anyone could find a flying horse, a wizard could. A wizard with some sort of portal. We're there any characters with magical portals in the film?
Valkyrie: Don't suppose you could pop over to planet Vrmhyllarwhatever and nab me a flying horse?
Wizard: White, brown or dappled?
I didn't thought about that and it does make a lot of sense.
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