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So I kinda want to get myself a muzzleloading black powder pistol, just for fun. Anybody got any idea on where to start? Like, a quick google turned up either antiques, or non-firing replicas. Any search terms or websites to find ones that've been, uh, what's the word... stamped?

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Anvildude wrote:
So I kinda want to get myself a muzzleloading black powder pistol, just for fun. Anybody got any idea on where to start? Like, a quick google turned up either antiques, or non-firing replicas. Any search terms or websites to find ones that've been, uh, what's the word... stamped?


https://www.cabelas.com/category/Black-Powder-Pistols/104503680.uts

Cabalas has kits and replica pistols.

I actually own a 1865 colt it works but I’m to chicken t try her, just had it appraised at $7500. My grandparents bought it back in the 1930’s after they passed I inherited her...

   
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 Chute82 wrote:

I actually own a 1865 colt it works but I’m to chicken t try her, just had it appraised at $7500. My grandparents bought it back in the 1930’s after they passed I inherited her...



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 d-usa wrote:
 Chute82 wrote:

I actually own a 1865 colt it works but I’m to chicken t try her, just had it appraised at $7500. My grandparents bought it back in the 1930’s after they passed I inherited her...



Be sure to strip it down and blue it at home to make it look nice and new

And bubba it up with JB Weld to add a red dot sight and flash light

 
   
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Right now I have a 0.50 cal Desert Eagle for home defense ... you never know when someone will break in and hide behind your neighbors fridge... I actually bought it because I have always loved the look of it. It is an absolute monster to fire and it usually makes everyone else at the range stop firing.

I do intend to get a shotgun for actual home defense, but where I live... I am not overly concerned about a break in. We did get a Walther .380 for the War Department to have some fun with and she really enjoys it and could most certainly make an intruder have a VERY bad day.

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Did autocorrect just turn “wife” into “war department”?

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Thanks for the link, Chute. I'm actually curious if there'd be somewhere I could find just the barrel, see if I could figure out my own mechanism and carve my own stock for it. Any ideas there?

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Any one have or fire a Sig MPX?


I have a hankering for a new toy and this has caught my eye.

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 Nostromodamus wrote:
Did autocorrect just turn “wife” into “war department”?


I fail to see the issue...

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 CptJake wrote:
Any one have or fire a Sig MPX?


I have a hankering for a new toy and this has caught my eye.
theyre neat and shoot well, though pricey. A CZ Scorpion is another good option thats less expensive, especially mags. But the MPX is pretty neat.

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 d-usa wrote:
 djones520 wrote:
Oldest is 4, and coincidentally already knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is never to touch my guns without asking for permission.


With little ones I feel guns should be handled like power tools. Both are just as likely to injure or kill a young one, so teach them what they are and let them use them with supervision. Curiosity kills the cat, so take that away and teach respect.

I am amazed at how many people think kids and guns should be completely separated due to danger, but have a lethal garage that kids can easily get to.


Seconded, this is a good attitude to have.


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 OIIIIIIO wrote:
Right now I have a 0.50 cal Desert Eagle for home defense ... you never know when someone will break in and hide behind your neighbors fridge... I actually bought it because I have always loved the look of it. It is an absolute monster to fire and it usually makes everyone else at the range stop firing.



Envious.

I've eyed up Desert Eagles... in my case was considering getting one in .44 Magnum. As classy as 50AE is, I just coudln't afford to shoot it lol

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BP pistols are good fun, I have a replica Rogers and Spencer revolver that gives good service.

I am hankering after a flintlock pistol to go with it...

   
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I've never gotten into black powder, but it has caught my eye as of late. A local store has a few varieties on sale. The question is, what's cooler, a flintlock or a revolver?

On one hand the flintlock is only $149. On the other hand, I found out there is an adapter kit for the revolver to get it to shoot 45 Long Colt, which I all ready have a bunch of.
   
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Honestly? I'm betting that a BP revolver would be more annoyance than it'd be worth. It's easy enough to swab out a single contiguous barrel, but with a revolver you have the multiple chambers in the cylinder, as well as the barrel and mechanisms.

The thing I'm nervous about is, you know, explosions. I know modern metallurgy is a LOT better, so fewer chances of things like inclusions or weak spots in the barrels, but from what little I've read so far, there's no modern national standard for proofing black powder weapons.

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Anvildude wrote:
The thing I'm nervous about is, you know, explosions. I know modern metallurgy is a LOT better, so fewer chances of things like inclusions or weak spots in the barrels, but from what little I've read so far, there's no modern national standard for proofing black powder weapons.


I think you're totally right to be concerned.

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Well, there is one saving grace. Muzzle loading pistols aren't really going to be used for much more than target practice or "fun" shooting. You can always go a little light on the powder.
   
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 OIIIIIIO wrote:
Right now I have a 0.50 cal Desert Eagle for home defense ... you never know when someone will break in and hide behind your neighbors fridge... I actually bought it because I have always loved the look of it. It is an absolute monster to fire and it usually makes everyone else at the range stop firing.


This is my friend Jaquie shooting my DE .50 AE.

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I have a BP revolver. Very fun and accurate. Have to give it a quick scrub after a dozen cylinders due to fouling but otherwise it’s no more a pain in the butt than any single shot BP gun I’ve shot.

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 CptJake wrote:
Any one have or fire a Sig MPX?


I have a hankering for a new toy and this has caught my eye.


What prices are you seeing? We have two in shop, 1389.99
   
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 Spacemanvic wrote:
 CptJake wrote:
Any one have or fire a Sig MPX?


I have a hankering for a new toy and this has caught my eye.


What prices are you seeing? We have two in shop, 1389.99


Haven't had a chance to check out the local shop yet. Which model(s) do you have?

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 CptJake wrote:
 Spacemanvic wrote:
 CptJake wrote:
Any one have or fire a Sig MPX?


I have a hankering for a new toy and this has caught my eye.


What prices are you seeing? We have two in shop, 1389.99


Haven't had a chance to check out the local shop yet. Which model(s) do you have?


I work tomorrow night, Ill get you the SKU numbers on them. They were both listed as carbine, will open boxes to see if either has the folding stock.
   
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CptJake, they are both mpxc9-KM-T $1389.99 each. 16" barrel with collapsible stock.
   
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 Ouze wrote:
Anvildude wrote:
The thing I'm nervous about is, you know, explosions. I know modern metallurgy is a LOT better, so fewer chances of things like inclusions or weak spots in the barrels, but from what little I've read so far, there's no modern national standard for proofing black powder weapons.


I think you're totally right to be concerned.


Hate to say it but you should be fine sticking to the European made replicas. They don't use modern proof marking, but the system set up a couple hundred years ago. Remember, not all black powders are the same same if you go the flint lock path. The finer pan powders have a faster burn rate that can kaboom barrels and black powder burns fast enough to be an explosive, unlike modern smokeless powders which I think don't fall into the explosive burn rates. I have seen a modern 1860 colt revolver reproduction ( for example) loaded with powder to the point that the ball had to be shaved to get the cylinder to turn. Shooting with that much powder didn't seemed to bother the old timers too much at the range. Strangely enough because of the fixed throw of the plunger on a colt you also have to be careful of under loading the pistol because it wouldn't properly seat the ball. The old times that shot competition with those types of loads had some solution like adding corn meal or something else crazy to the cylinder to get a proper seat for the ball. If you want to get into black powder you can probably find some help at a cowboy action shoot. The black powder fans are easy to spot because of the hanging smoke clouds around their firing lane.

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 cuda1179 wrote:
The most extreme trigger upgrade I've ever experienced was upgrading my Mosin Nagant to a Timney trigger. The original Mosin trigger felt like a really stiff Nerf gun made of metal instead of plastic and sliding on gritty sandpaper. The Timney trigger is all kinds of awesome. Clean break, smooth as heck.

If I do end up with an AK I hope I can find something similar.


I'm one of the rare ones who prefers an AR-like two-stage in my AK's. Run them in both of my primary rifles. After some wearing in, it's a very reasonable and crisp break - not the sponge-surprise trigger you get in a standard AK.
   
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I just saw a news article that Remington is attempting to use their bankruptcy proceedings to halt settlement proceedings in a class action lawsuit against the company over defective rifles. A trigger replacement program has apparently been on hold since 2014.

Do any of you use Remington rifles and are you affected by this? How much would it cost to just get the trigger replaced yourself?


 
   
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If you are referring to the Remington 700 lawsuit, triggers for that gun seem to run $120-180ish. If it was me I'd probably have just bought a new trigger rather than wait.

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 Breotan wrote:
I just saw a news article that Remington is attempting to use their bankruptcy proceedings to halt settlement proceedings in a class action lawsuit against the company over defective rifles. A trigger replacement program has apparently been on hold since 2014.

Do any of you use Remington rifles and are you affected by this? How much would it cost to just get the trigger replaced yourself?

The replacements are easy if not super cheap, I dont have one of the rifles, though the 700 series being very simple it is something that is easily accounted for as long as you are aware of the issue.

The bigger issue is that Remington knew about the issue for years or even decades and sat on it, and their Freedom Group owners have largely pulled a Toys R Us on Remington, sucking any and all value out of it while leaving it to wither and rot and put out garbage.

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The point of class action litigation like that isn't to get the plaintiffs money- they'll each get maybe $50 out of it (maybe better, maybe even worse). The point is to provide legal precedence to push better industry standards and safety tests, and make it so that manufacturers of defective products are responsible for any damage done by their products.

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