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While this practice has been used in Northern Ireland for some time, it seems that protestors visiting London shall be given the opportunity to get Wet and Wild.
It will be interesting to see how this is implemented, whether we will see these trucks at every demonstration or whether they will be called in when things get bad.
The all encompassing nature of the Water Cannon calls in to question the possibility of hitting 'Innocent' protestors. I, however, think this will be a nice deterrent to keep 'peaceful' protests actually
peaceful.
Whilst this thread may be locked at any time I agree that water cannons could be improved somewhat but I will add that we have always had water cannons in the UK inventory, same as with the old Green Goddesses, we just don't have cause to use them. Until a couple of days ago that is.
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Wussies. Nothing says "We humbly request you disband and leave the green" like this:
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Will anyone notice the use of a watercannon in the rain ?
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Knowing the UK, we will probably opt for the 'rioter friendly' model to comply fully with Health & Safety - said water cannon therefore has all the pressure of an average garden hose. At least, the ones shown on BBC Breakfast looked like that; one delinquent was merrily throwing his stack of bricks through the 'torrent' of water.
I vote for the sort of water cannon that is more like a huge Karcher pressure washer...
whatwhat wrote:Not so funny when you know Britains history of shooting at protestors. coughbloodysundaycough
Pretty funny to me actually.
But it is Britain. We should nod to history and tradition. I propose if the rioting continues a contingent of red coats in full 1812 era regalia be sent out. If the King's subjects to continue to be uppity then form double columns and advance. Right!
Alternatively lets go Angle- Saxon uniforms and catapults. have the catapults launch Haggis. If Haggis can stop the Hun, I'm sure it will put paid to a few protesters. HAGGIS!!!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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filbert wrote:Knowing the UK, we will probably opt for the 'rioter friendly' model to comply fully with Health & Safety - said water cannon therefore has all the pressure of an average garden hose. At least, the ones shown on BBC Breakfast looked like that; one delinquent was merrily throwing his stack of bricks through the 'torrent' of water.
I vote for the sort of water cannon that is more like a huge Karcher pressure washer...
if they don't flay the skin at 100yards or cause internal injuries via pressure then I want my tax money back.
Protesters don't like it? feth them! Stay at home losers!
whatwhat wrote:Not so funny when you know Britains history of shooting at protestors. coughbloodysundaycough
Pretty funny to me actually.
But it is Britain. We should nod to history and tradition. I propose if the rioting continues a contingent of red coats in full 1812 era regalia be sent out. If the King's subjects to continue to be uppity then form double columns and advance. Right!
Alternatively lets go Angle- Saxon uniforms and catapults. have the catapults launch Haggis. If Haggis can stop the Hun, I'm sure it will put paid to a few protesters. HAGGIS!!!
I want those two minutes back. You tease me with batons and police dogs and nary a bite. meanie!
Whats the point of having German Shepherds if you can't unleash them on donkey-caves who righteously deserve a bit of the old nomnomnom?
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
whatwhat wrote:Not so funny when you know Britains history of shooting at protestors. coughbloodysundaycough
Pretty funny to me actually.
But it is Britain. We should nod to history and tradition. I propose if the rioting continues a contingent of red coats in full 1812 era regalia be sent out. If the King's subjects to continue to be uppity then form double columns and advance. Right!
Alternatively lets go Angle- Saxon uniforms and catapults. have the catapults launch Haggis. If Haggis can stop the Hun, I'm sure it will put paid to a few protesters. HAGGIS!!!
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Ah I see you played the 'Ian Tomlinson' card...
When police ask you to clear the way, you move. You don't put your hands in your pockets and saunter casually down the road. This guy didn't deserve to die, but I can understand why the officer lost his temper. It's not like he intentially wanted to kill him by pushing him, I'm sure the officer wasn't aware of any underlying medical condition he had.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Incredible the amount of people in this thread siding with the police on this one. Flipping water canons aren't going to fix the idiots who are using them.
Sure you've proved yourself capable of controlling riots and not insigihting them yourselves, have another weapon!
Medium of Death wrote:Ah I see you played the 'Ian Tomlinson' card...
When police ask you to clear the way, you move. You don't put your hands in your pockets and saunter casually down the road. This guy didn't deserve to die, but I can understand why the officer lost his temper. It's not like he intentially wanted to kill him by pushing him, I'm sure the officer wasn't aware of any underlying medical condition he had.
The Ian Tomlinson card? What because he's the only example of where police have done this sort of thing in britain? Give me a break.
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Incredible the amount of people in this thread siding with the police on this one. Flipping water canons aren't going to fix the idiots who are using them.
Sure you've proved yourself capable of controlling riots and not insigihting them yourselves, have another weapon!
Why shouldn't they side with the police? Unless you're a flaming pile of poo unworthy of the spit it takes for the average British citizen to spit on you, you're not going to support a riot.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Incredible the amount of people in this thread siding with the police on this one. Flipping water canons aren't going to fix the idiots who are using them.
Sure you've proved yourself capable of controlling riots and not insigihting them yourselves, have another weapon!
Why shouldn't they side with the police? Unless you're a flaming pile of poo unworthy of the spit it takes for the average British citizen to spit on you, you're not going to support a riot.
Either you don't really know what your talking about or you support the idea that police can break out their battons and start twatting people when no sign of violent protest has been shown. I can give you many examples of that happening in the UK.
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Incredible the amount of people in this thread siding with the police on this one. Flipping water canons aren't going to fix the idiots who are using them.
Sure you've proved yourself capable of controlling riots and not insigihting them yourselves, have another weapon!
Why shouldn't they side with the police? Unless you're a flaming pile of poo unworthy of the spit it takes for the average British citizen to spit on you, you're not going to support a riot.
Either you don't really know what your talking about or you support the idea that police can break out their battons and start twatting people when no sign of violent protest has been shown. I can give you many examples of that happening in the UK.
Can I choose Option C?
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
I find it hysterical that the politicians are so shocked about the whole thing. If they actually spent time looking at our history the masses have always protested and we have come close to revolution a number of times in the past. I know that the game "A Very British Civil War" is fiction, but from what I've read we did actually came close to revolution at that period, which was only around 80 years ago.
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Killkrazy it's not about taking sides. I can't believe anyone can say that british police have proved themselves responsible enough to be given more weapons to control riots in the UK.
1. It does what it's told or else it gets the hose again.
2. I'm pretty sure that Ian Tomlinson received the same treatment that a
colored man or teen would have received here in the States for exactly the same
behavior (hands in pockets, sauntering away when ordered to clear). I'll let you
interpret that how you will.
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whatwhat wrote:Killkrazy it's not about taking sides. I can't believe anyone can say that british police have proved themselves responsible enough to be given more weapons to control riots in the UK.
I'm betting you've been yelled at by a bobby before haven't you? Its ok, lay down on this couch and tell Frazzled all about it.
Edit: Whatwhat you know this wouldn't be happening if you recognized the greatness of chips n queso and finally denied all association with haggis and oxtail soup.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
malfred wrote:1. It does what it's told or else it gets the hose again.
2. I'm pretty sure that Ian Tomlinson received the same treatment that a
colored man or teen would have received here in the States for exactly the same
behavior (hands in pockets, sauntering away when ordered to clear). I'll let you
interpret that how you will.
malfred wrote:1. It does what it's told or else it gets the hose again.
2. I'm pretty sure that Ian Tomlinson received the same treatment that a
colored man or teen would have received here in the States for exactly the same
behavior (hands in pockets, sauntering away when ordered to clear). I'll let you
interpret that how you will.
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ALL the cannons are needed for that one special day in mid-April.