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 Vaktathi wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
I got my first stamp! A form 1 - I'm going to SBR my .300BLK.

Still waiting for the suppressor stamp to go through.

Now I just need to go get it engraved and buy the barrel.

yay! How long was the stamp wait?

(comparatively) fast - 241 days.

Brutal

 Ouze wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
I got my first stamp! A form 1 - I'm going to SBR my .300BLK.

Still waiting for the suppressor stamp to go through.

Now I just need to go get it engraved and buy the barrel.

yay! How long was the stamp wait?

(comparatively) fast - 241 days.

Idunbeleafit!

We've got some customers nearing the year mark, some get a reply around the 9 month mark.

So who's skids did ya grease?

Not only was it relatively fast, I actually screwed up a piece of the application - that 241 days reflects the time it took for the ATF to send me back the application I forgot to sign and the time to get it back to them. I got it about a week after that.


My guess was it was going to be at least mid-July, at best.

Just picked up two stainless steel Ruger 10/22s. One will be kept at the barn, and one will reside in a case on the Polaris Ranger so that when the next rattler or coyote shows up I don't need to run all the way back to the house.

I am looking to possibly get a Marlin XT-17. All the reviews describe is as an obscenely accurate firearm (+ I like the cartridge.)

Anyone know any .17HMR specific scopes with BDC reticle?

Right now I only have a bolt/dart/pellet/BB pistol. lol. I've wanted a 9mm since I was 12, which was the first time I shot one. I was hooked. lol. There was no way on earth my mom was going to let me have one though.

I'd like to get one, but I'm really in no hurry. I'm still living with my fols, and there are plenty of guns in this household to keep us safe from predators.

Hey, when you're getting a stamp for a suppressor, does the stamp go to you, or does it get sent to the FFL who has the suppressor?

The FFL files does a form 3 to transfer the suppressor from the manufacturer to themselves, then your approved form 4 stamp goes to you after which you can take possession from the FFL.

Thanks man.

My suppressor's stamp arrived today! I go pick them up in the morning. Total time from sale to arrival was 229 days.

Huzzah!

I saw something today that made me consider copying it. A guy at the gun store had a 10mm Hi-Point rifle in an aftermarket stock. He'd also modified it by sawing off the stock about 8 inches back from the grip, and attaching an underfolding uzi stock to it. He did a great job of contouring the stock to make this look like a factory job. While folded up it looks nice and sub-machine gunny. Unfolded it is comfortable. He said you can find those underfolding Uzi stocks at surplus places for $15.

Huh, I'm trying to even envision that, might be fun though

Had to send my guns away for a while to love with my parents. With us putting the house on the market and having people drop by for showings I figured it will just be easier to have them safely locked away at their place. Now I’m trying to decide if I should just go ahead and spring for a safe for the new place.

That's a yes on a safe. Don't be cheap about it, get a "real" safe, not one of those $99 sheet metal thin ones. Mine is fire rated, and has 12 2-inch locking lugs. Makes you feel secure if you are away, in an emergency, or if you have kids around.


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 Vaktathi wrote:
Huh, I'm trying to even envision that, might be fun though

For as cheap and cool looking as those Uzi underfolding stocks are I might just get one to play with. I have a Mac-11, which is basically a poor man's Uzi, so maybe I could get it to fit on it? I have been wanting to SBR something.

I just picked up an M&P 9 2.0, and while I haven't hit the range with it yet, its definitely an improvement over the original. The default grip feels almost perfect in my hand (I have smaller hands as far as guys go), and my wife is comfortable holding it as well. I'm keeping it as a home defense piece, but I may carry once in a while.

As for the rail on the bottom, the question is: light or laser? I'm not looking to buy anything over $50, so a combo is right out. I figured the light just because it would be disorienting to an intruder, even if I don't get one that strobes. But the laser seems like a good idea as an assist for the wife if she had to use it. She can shoot, but shes never even been in a fight, so I'm unsure of her ability to aim well once the adrenaline kicks in.

I would go with a light, it'll have a greater array of utility than a laser to my mind. A laser can be useful, but I think a light is much moreso.

 Inquisitor Lord Bane wrote:
I just picked up an M&P 9 2.0, and while I haven't hit the range with it yet, its definitely an improvement over the original. The default grip feels almost perfect in my hand (I have smaller hands as far as guys go), and my wife is comfortable holding it as well. I'm keeping it as a home defense piece, but I may carry once in a while.

As for the rail on the bottom, the question is: light or laser? I'm not looking to buy anything over $50, so a combo is right out. I figured the light just because it would be disorienting to an intruder, even if I don't get one that strobes. But the laser seems like a good idea as an assist for the wife if she had to use it. She can shoot, but shes never even been in a fight, so I'm unsure of her ability to aim well once the adrenaline kicks in.

Disclaimer: I have neither a light nor a laser on my EDC at this time.

With that out of the way I have spoken with a number of people, trainers and LEOs, who think that a laser is a crutch at best and a distraction at worst. I've heard of training courses where people focus on the laser point rather than use their sights A light has much greater utility as it can help properly ID a target, or distract an advancing aggressor.

If you are really concerned about your wife's shooting ability under stress look into joining a defensive pistol league at a local range. The one I am part of has three divisions;
- Beginner; weapon held at low ready, or on a nearby prop
- Intermediate; draw and shoot from holster
- Advanced; draw and shoot from holster, one of more magazines loaded by instructor to have snap caps to force remedial action proficiency.

Each week we run through different scenarios and there are frequently moving and/or no shoot targets mixed in with the hostile targets. The stages also mix moving and shooting, shooting from cover, and administrative tasks. We used to start on a buzzer, but this week we switched to a strobe light to start one stage and a blank round being discharged to start the other.

I think they're both kind of handy. On my AR pistol I use a light, and that's my go-to thing for when I hear a noise at night.

For my carry pistol I use a laser because I feel like in a really stressful situation it would be easier to use, especially at night. I don't have tritium sights.

If it were one or the other I would get a light. Carrying a flashlight and a pistol at the same time sucks.

 Cothonian wrote:
I am looking to possibly get a Marlin XT-17. All the reviews describe is as an obscenely accurate firearm (+ I like the cartridge.)

Anyone know any .17HMR specific scopes with BDC reticle?

BSA makes the sweet series of scopes with a .17HMR reticle.


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 Ouze wrote:
I think they're both kind of handy. On my AR pistol I use a light, and that's my go-to thing for when I hear a noise at night.

For my carry pistol I use a laser because I feel like in a really stressful situation it would be easier to use, especially at night. I don't have tritium sights.

If it were one or the other I would get a light. Carrying a flashlight and a pistol at the same time sucks.

The only down side ( besides weight, bulk, and figity electronics) I see to firearm lights is that you're flagging whatever you need to look at, and that might be an unnecessary escalation. Carry two lights? Well, I believe in always carrying a light. However any defense firearm that you may have to use in low light conditions should have some sort of aid be it a light, laser, or self illuminating night sight. Tritium can bee your friend though it has a shelf life too. Personally I like tritium.

I was once given a Glock 19 which had a laser on it. I found myself and others would fixate on trying to get the laser perfectly lined up. My accuracy decreased and time between shots increased.

I took the laser off.

 Vaktathi wrote:
I would go with a light, it'll have a greater array of utility than a laser to my mind. A laser can be useful, but I think a light is much moreso.

A carry optic is much better than a laser frankly. The difference on accuracy between them and iron sights is...striking. we run a club level carbine match-strictly 35 yards or less. Against iron sight carbines I can routinely run in top 20% using my competition pistol. But I can never outshoot the guys with the optic sights on their carbines. Never.

therefore, i would recommend a light.

@Ouze: Just of curiosity, do you have to provide some form of "justification" for applying for a suppressor?
Or is it something that anyone can apply for but it just takes a while for the paperwork to go through?

You don't need a justification but it is a process. Vaktathi understands it much better than I do but I can tell you how it went for me.

The items on the NFA list are short barreled rifles, short barreled shotguns, suppressors, machine guns, and destructive devices. These are lawful but restricted on a federal level, but up until about a year ago, the state I live in banned all of them, so that didn't matter, I couldn't have them. Iowa wound up allowing SBRs, SBS, and suppressors. I still can't get a machine gun, which is something I think about more than you would think. One of my life goals is to get an Uzi, and not some bs semi-auto Uzi with a super long stupid looking barrel, you know? But I digress.

Once it was legal in Iowa, you can buy the suppressor, and then pick a legally qualified dealer to have it sent to. Then you have to apply for the tax stamp, which costs $200, and requires a photo ID, various information like address etc the serial number of the device, and several sets of fingerprints.

The suppressor gets transferred to your licensed dealer while you wait. The ATF does a thorough background check, and then after 8 or so months, sends your now-stamped application to the dealer*, and you can go pick up the stamp and the suppressor. I found a dealer who would let me use it while I was waiting, I just couldn't take possession of it or leave his property with it.

I did it as an individual because I am not patient and also because I think supressors will be removed from the NFA list in my lifetime anyway, but you can also do it via a trust. Doing it via a trust is more of a hassle but a much better deal since you can add other people to the trust, whereas as an individual it's assigned to me alone.

I have gotten 2 stamps. One of them I just did all the paperwork myself, went to the county jail to get fingerprinted, etc. I wouldn't recommend it but it works. For the second one I bought it from Silencer Shop and picked it up at a dealer who has a kiosk. The kiosk is essentially an ATM that takes fingerprints, takes picture, uses a touchscreen, and the forms are generated and transmitted electronically.



It's a much smoother process but of course there are only so many so these kiosks out there, the closest one to me was a 2 hour drive. Kinda worth it though, getting fingerprinted at the jail was expensive and irritating. Local police departments will usually do it for free or cheap, but I live in a ruralish area so none of the nearby cops would do it for me since I wasn't a resident.

So, no "justification" per se, just a hassle, paperwork, and a lot of time.


*up until recently the ATF would sometimes send the stamps to you, but they don't seem to do that anymore.

Wow ... fascinating stuff (to me). Thanks so much Ouze!

 CptJake wrote:
I was once given a Glock 19 which had a laser on it. I found myself and others would fixate on trying to get the laser perfectly lined up. My accuracy decreased and time between shots increased.

I took the laser off.

Isnt it funny how that works? I have a scope for my 22 rifle and found everyone did simular. We would hold our breath and try for a perfect shot and just fudge it right up after turning blue in the face. I took the scope off and the fun factor and ammo consumption shot up big time. Its still a pretty accurate 22 with iron sites anyways so I just left it off

Well, finally done with this stupid project.




.300BLK, BA Hanson 10.3" barrel, Recce 7 suppressor. The host is all Aero Precision & Magpul, BCM charging handle, and the glass is a Prostaff 3-9x 40. I also added a limbsaver pad which was probably not necessary but yolo I guess. Undecided on the final grip but trying this one out.

So far as it's use, it's another overpriced hole puncher.


Not sure what is next. I've wanted a deagle for a long, long time, and the only thing that has really kept me from getting one is knowing deep in my heart that the deagle is kind of a stupid gun. Still, there really isn't anything else out there I really want except probably a Sparrow silencer for my 22/45 lite.

There is always room for a fancy cowboy style revolver.

Thats an awesome setup, I need to get my 300 blackout build done...