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Anvildude wrote: The point of class action litigation like that isn't to get the plaintiffs money- they'll each get maybe $50 out of it (maybe better, maybe even worse). The point is to provide legal precedence to push better industry standards and safety tests, and make it so that manufacturers of defective products are responsible for any damage done by their products.
From what I saw of the suit it seemed like it required full replacement of the triggers.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
Even if the entire company goes under, another will probably buy the bones and keep making the product.
Heck, thats how the AR-15 still exists.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Slinky wrote: Does Remington still own Marlin? How are they going to be affected?
The old Marlin died over a decade ago, they got snapped up in the whole Freedom Group thing just like Remington. Im not sure how FG is handling Marlin in particular, but they dont appear to hve been treated outstandingly well.
IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights! The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts.
That's too bad. The first rifle I ever fired was, like so many other, was a Marlin bolt action .22 when I was at scout camp. I thought it was an amazing experience.
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lord_blackfang wrote: Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote: The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock
OIIIIIIO wrote: Right now I have a 0.50 cal Desert Eagle for home defense ... you never know when someone will break in and hide behind your neighbors fridge... I actually bought it because I have always loved the look of it. It is an absolute monster to fire and it usually makes everyone else at the range stop firing.
This is my friend Jaquie shooting my DE .50 AE.
Er Meh Gerd ... I love it. My DE is such a disgusting weapon... I love it. Just this past weekend the War Department gave me the go ahead to buy a Springfield 1911.... Have not gotten the chance to throw rounds yet, but I am looking forward to it.
The whole War Department thing ... I started calling her that she just laughed at my reasoning for it. I call her that because, as I explained to her, they tell us who to kill, and we march forth and make it happen.
I can assure you that it is not a derogatory thing, as I say it with reverence.
Now, we like big books. (And we cannot lie. You other readers can’t deny, a book flops open with an itty-bitty font, and a map that’s in your face, you get—sorry! Sorry!)
Slinky wrote: Does Remington still own Marlin? How are they going to be affected?
Remington Outdoor Company (formerly known as Freedom Group) still owns Marlin.
Marlin was screwed when Remington decided to close Marlin's North Haven factory and moved production down to Kentucky. Machinery that had been put in place and operational for almost 150 years was uprooted and moved AFTER Remington had promised Marlin that they would still have the factory in North Haven. Despite having plans etc etc, they could NOT get the machinery running right. They let go the 260 people that used to run the machinery, so Remington was SOL - the Machine Spirits were having none of it with Remington. So it's new machinery and components, some plastic. Marlin's are no where near what they used to be quality wise.
Remington did the same thing with Bushmaster. That story however had a happier ending and resulted in Windham Weaponry:
When the people who bought Bushmaster in 2006 decided to move it “lock, stock and barrel” out of Maine to New York in 2011, the original Bushmaster owner, Mr. Richard Dyke was left with both a dilemma and an opportunity. Almost to the day of the 2011 move, Mr. Dyke’s non-compete clause expired. He still owned the property where Bushmaster had been built, and knew all the workers – now laid off – who had helped him build it. He made a decision to “get back in the game” and promptly put an email out to many of his former employees and friends asking if there was interest in joining him for a new project.
With a resounding “yes” of support, he gathered the financing in two days, and started bringing people back into their long-time Windham manufacturing home. Phoenix-like, Windham Weaponry was on the rise. Within three months, the first productions models of the new Windham Weaponry line had been perfected and delivered. Quality, fit, finish, durability, accuracy and value were all superb – giving credence to Windham Weaponry’s motto “The Quality Goes In, Before The Rifle Goes Out”.
The firearms industry and consumers welcomed this new effort warmly, old friends and contacts were re-established, and sales grew. In less than a year and a half, Windham Weaponry had brought back almost 70 employees, benchmarked impressive sales numbers, and established their name as one of the pre-eminent firearms manufacturers in the country.
Well that sucks about Marlin, I had no idea. I own a Marlin .22 thats plenty old and man that is a great shooter. Once we got it zeroed I was able to shoot charms suckers stuck in the ground about 80 yards away. Friggin love that rifle.
Also have a marlin 22mag I bought 20 yrs ago , has that micro groove barrel rifle. Great gun for woodchucks around the house when I can’t use the 22-250. I also had no idea about marlin.
Marlins story is unfortunate. Ive got a trio of Marlin levergats from before Freedom Group bought them.
IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights! The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts.
I have a 1953 pre-Microgrove 336 in 30-30 that I love. Will never part with it. As old as it is, action is buttery smooth. Even comes with Pachmayr flip over scope mounts - yeah that old!
Remington hasnt made any friends in the industry as their actions with requisitions left a bitter taste. Their downfall began when they decided to pull all reps from mom + pop FFLs and only deal with Big Box stores (Walmart, Cabelas, Bass Pro etc). When they did that, we could only get Remington product through distributors, no longer direct. So guess who got recommended last when customers were looking for good rifles?
It got bad enough when Remington released a pistol, the R51-that was almost immediately recalled and returns to the owners never occurred. Instead, 2 years later Remington made a Gen 2 of the pistol and then these shipped first to those who had waited 2 years to hear from Remington. They've also shipped rifles whose barrels were not rifled, as well as sent rifles whose wood stocks were made with unseasoned wood. The stocks were splitting, some while in transit.
A former employee from one of the acquired companies told a Remington acquaintance to "stay the f#@$ away from my table!" at a trade show, calling him a liar because of an early plant closing after being promised to be left at the location. Made the show lively!
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Seeing as part of the topic title is "and their uses" I present my latest use.
Let the dogs out yesterday when I got home from work. Little rat dog was taking a dump so I turned to grab the scoop I keep right next to the deck, and there is a rattler about a foot away.
Really glad the dogs did not see it (they all ran straight out into the yard after a squirrel).
Got them all back inside, grabbed the .22 I keep loaded and ready just for this stuff, went back out and shot it then buried it.
Got one twice this size today out by the chicken coop, but did not have my phone handy to take a picture.
Gonna be a long summer at this rate. Wife is bugged out the one was right off the deck and about a foot from the walkway. She is more bugged out one was by the chicken/duck coop.
Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
Ouze wrote: Are you using snake shot or regular ammo?
Regular ammo. Had an ugly incident with .22 snake shot, in this rifle in fact.
I'm at the store and see .22 snake shot. I think "Hey cool! I'm gonna get some!" I buy a box.
Load the rifle so the first 3 are snake shot.
Leave rifle in its place.
A month or two later sons come running in "Papa, Papa Papa there is a snake by the horses' water trough!"
I'm thinking, Hooah! Get to try out the snake shot!
Grab the rifle and head out. Sure as heck there is a big ol' cotton mouth who must have come up from the pond area coiled at the base of the water trough showing his fangs. It actually starts crawling towards us as it notices us.
I take careful aim and CRACK! I hit it in the head. It MAYBE took out an eye. Damned thing is pissed and coming at me faster. I aim and pull the trigger. Nothing. As the second round fed the damned plastic cap on the end broke causing a jam. I cycle it out of there and aim pull nothing. Damned third round fed bad too.
At this point I'm backing up as quickly as I can as this serpent from hell is trying to end me before I end it.
I finally get the jam cleared and aim pull CRACK! A .22 hollow point hits the bastard in the head.
I tossed out the rest of the snake shot after that. If it is not coming from Mr. Mossberg or the other 12 gauge, it is a real bullet at this point.
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Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
Yeah, I think you're only supposed to use it in a revolver. Still, the important takeaway is probably that the first shot was a hit and didn't kill it. I've never used it and I guess I never will - my only .22 is also a semi pistol so I bet I would have the same problem.
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Flinty wrote: The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock
I'm lucky enough to live in an area of the world were you can go a lifetime without seeing venomous snake in the wild. All we ever get is the very rare timber rattler. I've seen two ever, and I'm well above average for this area. Still, I wouldn't mind taking a crack at one with .410 birdshot from my Judge.
But see in movies and teevee, now any gun being drawn makes that clicking sound?
Guns don’t really do that, do they?
I'm not sure what you mean. Being drawn from a holster? If so, I don't think I've noticed the clicking sound effect. Pulling my carry gun out of the holster does not make a clicking sound.
Do you mean having the slide pulled back and released (to chamber a round) or 'cocking' a gun? If so, yeah, there is some clicking/metal on metal noise involved.
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Well you have to pull the slide/bolt back and release it to chamber a round.
The typical "Cowboy" six shooter would usually be carried with the hammer not cocked for safety and as you drew you would cock it, leading to a clicking sound. Its probably translated into hollywood thinking guns always make the clicking sound of the hammer being drawn back, when on any semi-auto/automatic weapons it will be covered up by the slide drawing back. Or in the case of a rifle the bolt being drawn and released.
I don't think any semi-auto hand gun at least can actually have a round chambered at the same time as the hammer is down. Because pulling the slide back to chamber a round also cocks the hammer. At least on my 1911 its impossible to have the hammer down and a round chambered. Likewise on the AK, if a round is chambered the trigger spring is under tension and ready to fire.
So the clicking on a drawn weapon is only accurate for a revolver, assuming the hammer was not already cocked. If its a single action revolver, the hammer has to be manually cocked each time you fire. On a double action the trigger itself also cocks the hammer so cocking is unnecessary, but can be done to save some trigger pull.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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The whole gun cocking when drawn from holster is a Hollywood myth, similar to the sound effect used when a knife or sword is drawn in most movies. The only time I can think of when a firearm would make a clicking sound upon drawing is if it is a kydex holster. Other movie sins with firearms include thinking that striker fired guns, like Glocks, will go click every time you pull the trigger on an empty chamber.
Grey Templar wrote: I don't think any semi-auto hand gun at least can actually have a round chambered at the same time as the hammer is down. Because pulling the slide back to chamber a round also cocks the hammer. At least on my 1911 its impossible to have the hammer down and a round chambered. Likewise on the AK, if a round is chambered the trigger spring is under tension and ready to fire.
For 1911s you are right (unless someone is really brave and gently rides the hammer home when they pull the trigger), but for firearms with decockers you can have the hammer down and a round in the chamber.
Ouze wrote: I got my first stamp! A form 1 - I'm going to SBR my .300BLK.
Still waiting for the suppressor stamp to go through.
Now I just need to go get it engraved and buy the barrel.
yay! How long was the stamp wait?
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IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights! The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts.
I actually bought it because I have always loved the look of it. It is an absolute monster to fire and it usually makes everyone else at the range stop firing.
