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Yo to all my homies, Please post all suggestions for the upcoming campaign Here
Comments from all Dakkarites are also welcome.

First Draft of campaign Exp system

players must submit an army roster of 5k points, each week you select a force of between 750pts and 2000pts suitable to the mission being played, and according to the FoCfor said mission.In this way we can track experience gained for cetain units,

I'm also thinking that if a unit is "wiped out" it just loses all Exp, as opossed to being gone. This also encourages people to purchase new units for a "End game"

My Idea for Exp
Only the unit delivering the killing blow gains the Exp, (ballance issue)
Infantry Generic (Not walkers) For every 500exp you may roll once on this chart (max 3 rolls In TOTAL)
1. Move through cover (if unit already has this, it becomes a re-roll)
2. +1 WS
3. +1 A
4. +1 Ld( if you go above 10, Fearless)
5. Tank Hunters
6. Players choice

Tanks (including walkers) For every 750exp you may roll once on this chart (max 3 rolls in TOTAL)
1. Re-roll DT
2. +1 Bs
3. +1 WS(re-roll if no WS Stat)
4. Scout
5. Tank Hunters
6. Vehicle counts as Fast for purposes of shooting ONLY.

Monstrous creature. For every 500exp you may roll on this chart (max 3 rolls TOTAL)
1. Move through cover (if unit already has this, it becomes a re-roll)
2. +1 Bs
3. +1 WS
4. +1 A
5. +1 Str
6. terrifying, must pass Morale check to charge the monstrous creature, ~1ld to check for unit charging if taken 2nd time, -2 ld if taken third time (may select 2 max times)

Independent Character (NOT special character) For every 500exp you may roll on this chart (max 3 rolls TOTAL)

1. +1 I
2. +1 A
3. +1 Str( counted after power fists doubling ect.)
4. +1 T (can only be taken once, counts For ID purposes)
5. +1 W (can only be taken once)
6. Eternal warrior (can only be taken once)

Special Characters DO NOT gain Exp, they know enough (this is to encourage the taking of standard HQ characters)

Starmap Drafted by the talented Lorna
(downscaled)

The Golgotha System was by no means the jewel of the Eastern Fringe and it was not instrumental in the defence of the region as a whole, despite this it had acquired great wealth and developed it self as hub for surrounding systems. The ruling elite lived a lavish lifestyles and the principal planet had become known as a centre of cultural excellence.

Seemingly without warning some two centuries ago the system was engulfed by a violent and terrible warp storm, cutting it off from the rest of the Imperium. Devoid of the emperor light the system was plunged into a period of darkness.

In the decades that followed the systems disappearance from imperial charts, rumours became rife. Stories of caches lost technologies, a governors’ ransom in minerals and of planets wracked by nightmarish creatures were common place and quickly spread through the populace of the surrounding systems. The Golgotha system soon developed a mythical quality much like ancient Terran story of Atlantis. Heedless of the danger many a brave, or foolhardy, individuals attempted to penetrate veils of the warp storms to gain access to lost fortune they believed to be waiting for them, few survived and those who did were forever changed.

When the storm finally began to abate an ad hoc Imperial Crusade force was assembled, its members spanning the many adetptas and arms of imperial authority, in order to return the system to Imperial rule and claim its treasure for the emperor. Arriving in system the crusaders were greeted by a vision of madness, the vox networks were alive with the plaintive screams and pleas of a beleaguered population, whose system had been ravaged by the cruelties of an uncaring galaxy.

The corrupting presence of the warp had driven great swathes of the population insane. Great number of imperial citizens seeking salvation, and believing the emperor had forsaken them, had turned to the embrace of the dark gods. Learning and spreading the teachings of their malign patrons the cultists had set about a vicious campaign of terror to undermine the still loyal strongholds.

However the Chaos cultists were not only ones who sought to destroy the Imperial presence within the system. Unbeknownst to imperial authorities, at the time of Golgotha’s disappearance there had been an active genestealer cult in the system, twisting the bodies and souls of the imperial citizens to the will of the hive mind. Now freed from trapping of the warp storm the genestelaer and begun to call for their brethren.

For the last 200 years Golgotha had been despoiled by an underground cult war of epic proportions that had spread like a disease across the whole system. Loyalists and cultist of both kinds were constantly engaged in running street battles, act of sabotage and unimaginable acts of atrocity.

The lifting of the storm and arrival of the crusade force should have been the salvation of system, but it was by no means the end of the Golgothas suffering. The stories of Golgotha had spread far and wide and the lifting of the storm was like the smell of a rotting corpse to carrion creatures as heretics and Xenos of all walk descended upon the system to feed.

The Tau Empire had heard the stories and believing the Imperium weak and having faith in their technology had arrived in force seeking to claim the system for themselves to add to their fledgling domain and spread the word of the greater good.

Heretical Chaos Marines, Daemons and renegades of all breeds flocked to system. Whether they came to assist the existing cultists, placate their dark gods or just for the joy of the slaughter may never be known for the ways of chaos are unfathomable to sane men.

The feral like Orks, attracted by the marshalling of forces in and around the system, descended in upon Golgotha in a great horde seeking war and the opportunity to grow larger and stronger as their kind are like to do.

The picket ships and scouts of the crusade force even reported sighting “mechanical skeletons, that glowed with a sickening light” on the fringes of the system. Whether it was abundance of life, an anathema to their kind, or some other dark purpose it appeared as if Golgotha had attracted the attention of the ancient enemy, the Necrons.

Where such gatherings occur one can always be assured that if you look into the shadows hard enough one will always find the enigmatic Eldar attempting to guide the unfurling events. Using the younger races as pawns in a game larger than the human mind can comprehend; they shape and manipulate the situation to ensure the correct future comes to pass.

Drawn by Golgothas' screams of pain and suffering that emanated through the warp, the Eldars Darker kin arrived seeking Souls for “she that thirsts” and slaves for their arenas in order to satiate their blood lust and stave off their own demise.

With untold treasures still to be found and countless battles still to be fought the Campaign for Golgotha had just begun.

As I said in PM, makes sense.
Also, love the incentive to not take specials, wooo Eternal Warror Hive Tyrant!

Interesting, not sure I like this concept of needing a 5000pt roster (I know I can just duplicate what I've already got), I'll get a bad case of "ooh shiny" syndrome and end up buying stuff I don't really want or need.

TBH what I'm more interested in is seeing the fluff SpankHammer III comes up with.

So am i nick, then i get to make planets.

Word up Homeslices

Looks like you beat me to the punch was going to start this thread. Formosa how is exp earned? sorry if that a stupid question but i'm a campaign nube.


I've knocked together a fairly loose piece of starter fluff.

I would have liked to have known a few more details before drafting it, e.g. races involved, but given that we've had to open the campaign up a little, at the order of manager Jason, i've kept it deliberatly vague. Suppose this is a positive in some ways as it means that the fluff can organically develop around the campaign rather than us trying to adhere to a fixed story. The involvement of every faction in a campaign always seems a little ropey to me though I mean how unlucky can one system be.

Lorna I have not gone into any details about planets, as I was waiting to see your awesome map , and I need to liase with you guys about the numbers and types of worlds we'll be dealing with.

As always guys look forward to feed back and suggestions.

The Golgotha System was by no means the jewel of the Eastern Fringe and it was not instrumental in the defence of the region as a whole, despite this it had acquired great wealth and developed it self as hub for surrounding systems. The ruling elite lived a lavish lifestyles and the principal planet had become known as a centre of cultural excellence.

Seemingly without warning some two centuries ago the system was engulfed by a violent and terrible warp storm, cutting it off from the rest of the Imperium. Devoid of the emperor light the system was plunged into a period of darkness.

In the decades that followed the systems disappearance from imperial charts, rumours became rife. Stories of caches lost technologies, a governors’ ransom in minerals and of planets wracked by nightmarish creatures were common place and quickly spread through the populace of the surrounding systems. The Golgotha system soon developed a mythical quality much like ancient Terran story of Atlantis. Heedless of the danger many a brave, or foolhardy, individuals attempted to penetrate veils of the warp storms to gain access to lost fortune they believed to be waiting for them, few survived and those who did were forever changed.

When the storm finally began to abate an ad hoc Imperial Crusade force was assembled, its members spanning the many adetptas and arms of imperial authority, in order to return the system to Imperial rule and claim its treasure for the emperor. Arriving in system the crusaders were greeted by a vision of madness, the vox networks were alive with the plaintive screams and pleas of a beleaguered population, whose system had been ravaged by the cruelties of an uncaring galaxy.

The corrupting presence of the warp had driven great swathes of the population insane. Great number of imperial citizens seeking salvation, and believing the emperor had forsaken them, had turned to the embrace of the dark gods. Learning and spreading the teachings of their malign patrons the cultists had set about a vicious campaign of terror to undermine the still loyal strongholds.

However the Chaos cultists were not only ones who sought to destroy the Imperial presence within the system. Unbeknownst to imperial authorities, at the time of Golgotha’s disappearance there had been an active genestealer cult in the system, twisting the bodies and souls of the imperial citizens to the will of the hive mind. Now freed from trapping of the warp storm the genestelaer and begun to call for their brethren.

For the last 200 years Golgotha had been despoiled by an underground cult war of epic proportions that had spread like a disease across the whole system. Loyalists and cultist of both kinds were constantly engaged in running street battles, act of sabotage and unimaginable acts of atrocity.

The lifting of the storm and arrival of the crusade force should have been the salvation of system, but it was by no means the end of the Golgothas suffering. The stories of Golgotha had spread far and wide and the lifting of the storm was like the smell of a rotting corpse to carrion creatures as heretics and Xenos of all walk descended upon the system to feed.

The Tau Empire had heard the stories and believing the Imperium weak and having faith in their technology had arrived in force seeking to claim the system for themselves to add to their fledgling domain and spread the word of the greater good.

Heretical Chaos Marines, Daemons and renegades of all breeds flocked to system. Whether they came to assist the existing cultists, placate their dark gods or just for the joy of the slaughter may never be known for the ways of chaos are unfathomable to sane men.

The feral like Orks, attracted by the marshalling of forces in and around the system, descended in upon Golgotha in a great horde seeking war and the opportunity to grow larger and stronger as their kind are like to do.

The picket ships and scouts of the crusade force even reported sighting “mechanical skeletons, that glowed with a sickening light” on the fringes of the system. Whether it was abundance of life, an anathema to their kind, or some other dark purpose it appeared as if Golgotha had attracted the attention of the ancient enemy, the Necrons.

Where such gatherings occur one can always be assured that if you look into the shadows hard enough one will always find the enigmatic Eldar attempting to guide the unfurling events. Using the younger races as pawns in a game larger than the human mind can comprehend; they shape and manipulate the situation to ensure the correct future comes to pass.

Drawn by Golgothas' screams of pain and suffering that emanated through the warp, the Eldars Darker kin arrived seeking Souls for “she that thirsts” and slaves for their arenas in order to satiate their blood lust and stave off their own demise.

With untold treasures still to be found and countless battles still to be fought the Campaign for Golgotha had just begun.

Nice work mate, I look forward to seeing what Lorna comes up with for the system itself now.

Thanks Nick, its appreciated.

Wasn't to sure about some of the reasoning for the other sides turning up, my main area of knowledge is imperial so as the campaign progresses i'm going to need some help with some of the dirty Xenos and heretics fluff.

yeah i'm interested to see what he comes up with. I'm expecting that we will have a hive world and an agri world but i'm not sure what else.

Well the Hive and agri world certainly cover the basics.

I'd like to see a death world appear I reckon with the right rules (killer plants etc) it would be really good fun for small kill team games but I don't know if anyone else would want to play games like that.

Problem i have with Death World and forge worlds is it doesn't really make a lot of sense, from a fluff point of view, to have all of them in one system. I can see having a hive world and agri in the same system and maybe death world if it was more of the frozen waste with no atmosphere kind of deal but having them all just feels like your trying to crobar stuff in.

With a forge world in the system I can see the whole system being given over to the mechanicum, which woould allow for a hive a wasteland planet but most the fluff i've read those kind of systems have to import a lot of their food, so you'd loose the agri worl.

I'll probably have dead world in their, i was experimenting with some stuff last night and have got some stuff for a post 'nid world. I might have something like a Mechanicum outpost or something like that, so there can be an excuse for new equipment for the Imps.

but i'll get working on it soon. Pokemon Blue is taking alot of my attention right now. But Ill get it done.

Oh, and nice fluff spankhammer

All looks rather good to me. Just need to buy build and paint my crimson fisters!
Great fluff spanky and awsome map Lorna.
And as spanky said "Formosa how is exp earned?"
I'm a complete campaign noob too.

Thanks Kids

I can see a mechanicum outpost working well, you could have rules for zero g and no atmosphere, hell it might even work well with a space hulk type kill team mission to please Nick

Exp is earned via... dum dum duuum... victory points.
this difers from the rulebook sugested " veteran skills"


Example: Captain with Melta-bombs assaults a Land raider, he then wrecks it, total up the Land raider's cost in points, the Captain then adds those points to his Exp total.

pretty simple, it also encourages the use of expensive units, as you are going to want that Land raider to have Tank hunters.

As an adendum to the Exp rules: Only the unit that "destroys" the enemy gains exp.
So Blob platoons for example, Only the unit in the platoon will gain the Exp, NONE of the Advisors or Attached characters or attached units.
This is to stop 1 guard troop slot with all the bells and whistles gaining exp for the entire troop slot, it also means A Marine captain will not gain the exp for his sqaud "destroying" a unit.


Planetary rules: I will add these when Lorna and Alex give me the Planets they will be using.

So my power blob if I take a priest, the priest will not benefit from the kill made by the platoon. Equally the LasC HWS will not gain any advantage from the kills made by said blob. Makes sense.

What about my commissars? I assume they count as part of the unit as they are an upgrade not an IC and if you seperate him from the blob it mean i'll have to role his PW attackes seperatley every time.

the Reason for the 5k point roster =)

say in your next game you are playing vs Eldar, they have alot of Lance weapons, and you dont want you nice sniny veteran BS6 Leman russ getting "WTFPWNED", simply take another Leman russ from your Roster sheet (prefurebly with little or no Exp)

Also, say you take Pedro as your HQ in your Roster sheet, you still gain stubborn, even if Not taking him in the game, this is to represent The Crimson fist chaptor being there, so an upside to taking a special character, but also a downside, as he never gains exp


Now everyone please remember!
Comment on ANY changes you'd like to see or Idea's you may have (No Black Templars can't have army wide FNP)
this stuff isn't set in stone =]
and don't worry bout telling me my ideas suck.

So special characters don't gain exp in any way shape or form. I spose they've got to the peek of their game tbh
But if i have pedro in the 5k points, my army that i field still get the stubborn special rule even if Pedro doesn't come along for the ride, thats good. Although i would just be paying 175 points just for stubborn and sternguard being scoring units. Could he do his orbital bombardment from his battle barge?? ^^ lol
I'll start with my 5k points then, should be fun.

SpankHammer III wrote:So my power blob if I take a priest, the priest will not benefit from the kill made by the platoon. Equally the LasC HWS will not gain any advantage from the kills made by said blob. Makes sense.

What about my commissars? I assume they count as part of the unit as they are an upgrade not an IC and if you seperate him from the blob it mean i'll have to role his PW attackes seperatley every time.

Upgrade characters are part of the sqaud, the same way that an Independent character in a retinue is now part of a sqaud, so yes they recieve the bonus, the downside of the commisar gaining the abilities... still a guardsman, so easy to shoot lolzzz


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Gorillawizard wrote:So special characters don't gain exp in any way shape or form. I spose they've got to the peek of their game tbh
But if i have pedro in the 5k points, my army that i field still get the stubborn special rule even if Pedro doesn't come along for the ride, thats good. Although i would just be paying 175 points just for stubborn and sternguard being scoring units. Could he do his orbital bombardment from his battle barge?? ^^ lol
I'll start with my 5k points then, should be fun.

Oh hellllll no playa! he cant use his pimped out laser beam, but seriously nope.

Any Abilites that affect "on table" things such as reserves etc. (ala swarm lord and Astropath) MUST still be on table, for example.
CCCRRRRRREEEEEDDDD!!! wants to outflank a Baneblade (lol he can actually do this, or 3 lol) he must be in the game to do so, he cant do it from the roster sheet, but if a character has an army wide special rule (such as chapter tactics etc.) they still apply.

This is to stop marine players ect. from saying "mUh Spesh Mureens are Spesh Woofs today, next week thay R Spesh Blud wolves" you take your list, and thats your army.
the 5k points is so you can take alot of diferent units to keep the game fresh, rather than being locked into 1 army list week after week (Like the Tale of many gamers and the league's we did)

Yup, at least by then i might have some different units for my nids.

If there is gona be an 'end game' how many points?

Gorillawizard wrote:If there is gona be an 'end game' how many points?

As a terry pratchett troll says "one two...? Many? lots?"

I dont really know yet, if we get say.. 10? people to take part, then 30,000 points (3k per player) if we get more then 1500 per player etc.

in other words, i want the last game to be vast.

Wooo, sounds like fun

Hmm that will be a massive game and the chances of me getting 3k points of BT by then are simply non existent.

Nick Ellingworth wrote:Hmm that will be a massive game and the chances of me getting 3k points of BT by then are simply non existent.

And less so for me, probably 2,000pts at most, but a 20,000 pt game could be great. But where to host such a massive game. it would need to be about 18ft by 6ft board

Or a 4x4

lol yep

just imagine a 20,000 point drop pod assault game on a 4x4. No don't its too much fun... hmm where to role the dice <.< >.> ^^

a 2x2

Now you're just being silly. Anyway yeah a huge game to end the campaign would be good, just don't want to make it too big otherwise we won't get beyond the end of turn 1.

Formosa wrote:
Infantry Generic (Not walkers) For every 500exp you may roll once on this chart (max 3 rolls In TOTAL)
1. Move through cover (if unit already has this, it becomes a re-roll)
2. +1 WS
3. +1 A
4. +1 Ld( if you go above 10, Fearless)
5. Tank Hunters
6. Players choice

With a roll of a 6.Players choice, would this just apply to the table or could i say +1 BS or feel no pain etc etc.

Gorillawizard wrote:

Formosa wrote:
Infantry Generic (Not walkers) For every 500exp you may roll once on this chart (max 3 rolls In TOTAL)
1. Move through cover (if unit already has this, it becomes a re-roll)
2. +1 WS
3. +1 A
4. +1 Ld( if you go above 10, Fearless)
5. Tank Hunters
6. Players choice

With a roll of a 6.Players choice, would this just apply to the table or could i say +1 BS or feel no pain etc etc.

Wording is deliberate, "roll once on THIS chart"
there is no FNP on the chart, so its not selectable.
The omission of FNP is deliberate, I feel that FNP on unit such as a infantry blob or a 15 man BT unit would be op

But if you guys want to add or change the charts, go ahead with sugestions