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If he says put your money where your mouth is, then i have a feeling that GW Norwich will probably lose a fair amount of it's income from people like becasue it's the bets that keep coming back.

But we can't say where this will go so on thursday we do it and see what happens.

so who exactly did he tell to "F off"?
Because thats... well a sackable offence i thought?

I didn't know he read this

Oh well, seriously that rescent period where I was getting disenfranchised with the hobby was a lot to do with the current state of our local GW. Yeah there was other factors like the price hike and fact I hadn't done any hobby at home because I was moving but it was compunded by the lack of a consitentancy at our gaming venue.


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I didn't know he read this

Oh well, seriously that rescent period where I was getting disenfranchised with the hobby was a lot to do with the current state of our local GW. Yeah there was other factors like the price hike and fact I hadn't done any hobby at home because I was moving but it was compunded by the lack of a consitentancy at our gaming venue.

well depending on thursday i will decide if im staying at GW norwich or going to "LAST STAND!!"
To be honest guys, its you lot and FOO that keep me there, were all overbearing arogant manchildren, but your all top notch people, its been a pleasure knowing and gaming with you all (except angry kid and nurgle boy)

there is one rule i will insist upon to jason however, a minimul level of personal hygiene must be brought into effect. its gotten beyond a joke

Am I Nurgle boy?

What exactly is happening on Thursday anyway? I know it's the Badab War thing but I've got no idea what the hell that is.

@woodbok - nah your not nurgle boy

He has told Zak and Johnny to F off to the last stand in front of a family when they were complaining about not being able to practice for the tournie that he had set up and was plugging massivly.

He has also tried to kick me and nick out for waiting for a table to become free to play our game becasue 'we were making the shop look untidy'

To be fair to him I make anywhere I go look untidy.

no Bok your not nurgle boy lol, Jason did whhhaaatt!!
dude(s) that aint on, now correct me if im wrong, but wasn't thursdays supposed to be VETS night, not, JASONS NIGHT(tm) or am i missing something

Hi all!

I’m Alex from the Last Stand gaming club. I think when I spoke to a number of you last week, I explained a few things about how the club works, but I thought it might be worth recapitulating a few points, especially for people who weren’t there.

The Last Stand is a members owned and run club, with the purpose of ensuring members are able to play Warhammer 40,000 and other games - members currently play WFB, Epic, Trafalgar, Malifaux and Infinity, but primarily we are a 40k club and expect 40k to be the primary game of anyone who plays at the club. We have been through a number of venues, but at present are housed at Munchy’s café. We have an elected committee, and our club leader is currently Mike McGuire.

Thursday nights is member and guests gaming. We normally welcome new guests, but at the moment have found ourselves in the situation where we have around as many guests as we have members (I’ll come to what we mean by members and guests), and this means there is some pressure on the tables we currently have. A few key points:

* We are looking at acquiring some more gaming tables, and working out an approach whereby we can welcome more guests.

* Last Stand is not a commercial operation – we collect no dues at the moment and the 2 pounds per game charged goes directly to John (the Munchy’s café owner). Our agreement with John is that the fee is per player not per table (so four players on one table is 8 pounds).

* We expect people who play at the Last Stand to make the club their primary 40k playing location.

* We aim to create a really good gaming environment – the heart of the club is small community and preserving that aspect is really important to us.

A quick final word on membership and why we refer to guests and members. Our membership consists of people who have played at the Last Stand for a long time, and for various reasons we are very cautious about admitting new people. Members vote, which determines what the club does, and we’ve had enough bad experiences in the past to be pretty protective about that nowadays.

Hope that helps.

First Off I'd like to say thank you to Alex (torgoch) for his post, it is most appreciated.

To all my fellow GW players, it sounds like a good place however with their current Member/Guest issues (not sure if thats the right word) it may be a worth trying to get our own house in order. Of course if it fails we can then approach Last Stand.

I can't help but agree there.

Agreed spanky.

dito homeboy

Hi All

Last week, before Formosa spoke to Jason, I started looking into alternative venues for gaming. I spoke to a few of you about it but not in great detail.

We can get a room at Bignold School, for £15 from 6-10pm

Currently Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays are available.

For those of you who bus it is relatively close to the Bus Station and for those of you who drive I assume we will have access to the car park (please note this is an assumption on my part).The advantage of course is that is not GW so you will be able to play any system you like (including hordes and firestorm) whenever you like. I'm sure food and drink would be allowed as long as the room was returned to state we got it in. There will be tables and I have been told that there is probably enough for at least 3 6x4 tables (however I have yet to see the room so can not confirm), we would also need to provide our own scenery and mats but how much does GW really provide.

The main down side is we would have to pay on a monthly basis (or termly), unfortunately I cannot really afford to pay for it unless I can guarantee at least the majority of the money would be paid back to me, so we might have to run a membership scheme for regular players and possibly a small charge to guests. The benefit being that the more people who join the cheaper it will become.

If you are interested, either post or PM me so I can so get an idea of numbers and thus get and idea of the likelihood of this working. I need to know soon though as we would need to get it in place before the school breaks up for holidays. Please realize this represents and actual commitment, no flaking, maybe's or the like, you are either in or not, the school is doing us a favor here and I will not burn them.

SpankHammer III wrote:Hi All

Last week, before Formosa spoke to Jason, I started looking into alternative venues for gaming. I spoke to a few of you about it but not in great detail.

We can get a room at Bignold School, for £15 from 6-10pm

Currently Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays are available.

For those of you who bus it is relatively close to the Bus Station and for those of you who drive I assume we will have access to the car park (please note this is an assumption on my part).The advantage of course is that is not GW so you will be able to play any system you like (including hordes and firestorm) whenever you like. I'm sure food and drink would be allowed as long as the room was returned to state we got it in. There will be tables and I have been told that there is probably enough for at least 3 6x4 tables (however I have yet to see the room so can not confirm), we would also need to provide our own scenery and mats but how much does GW really provide.

The main down side is we would have to pay on a monthly basis (or termly), unfortunately I cannot really afford to pay for it unless I can guarantee at least the majority of the money would be paid back to me, so we might have to run a membership scheme for regular players and possibly a small charge to guests. The benefit being that the more people who join the cheaper it will become.

If you are interested, either post or PM me so I can so get an idea of numbers and thus get and idea of the likelihood of this working. I need to know soon though as we would need to get it in place before the school breaks up for holidays. Please realize this represents and actual commitment, no flaking, maybe's or the like, you are either in or not, the school is doing us a favor here and I will not burn them.

Woooooo thats my old school!

mine too, but quite a long time ago now.

Something to consider certainly, but I think we all need to talk face to face really, this medium ("the interwebz") doesn't really cut it for important discussions.

Call me a cynical old hector if you like but I don't think it will get discussed any better in person than it will online.

Because at GW everyone will just be floating around doing their own thing or playing a game. It's not like we'll all sit down and discuss it, plus this kind of talk is probably going to be frowned upon in store.

Fair point. Doesn't really help that I don't have strong feelings one way or another.

It's a pretty good idea man, and i would be up for it.

ok, im in when do you need the 1st months money, i will pay half to get this going, HOWEVER, the caveat, MINIMUM level of behavior and hygiene, NO under 18's (decided case by case), and if a membership is agreed upon, payment is UPFRONT, again done case by case.

Terrain will be easy to come by as we can simply build it.

I suggest £10 per month, this will cover the rent and buying scenery. fair?

I also propose Alex is made president (or king) of the the club, with me as 2nd, it comes with double pay and the title "grand high Bas#*d" Thank. (joke, but alex in charge)

Thanks Formosa

Well I’m going to try and check to room out this week and see how many tables we can get. I agree on the preliminary rules, the under 18's is a little rubbish though as there are plenty of over 18's who are jerks and plenty of under 18's who are not. So I say membership will just be decided on a member by member basis.

In regards to membership I'm currently thinking of a flexible scheme, so will be proportional to the number of members. Membership will be upfront so if additional people join or guests play that money will be put aside to either go towards the next months venue fee or redistributed to members. I have no intention of making a profit out of this.

I am a little reluctant to spend club funds on scenery as there is no communal storage facility, however we may have issues if we rely on people bringing it, so we may have to.

My first and primary rule has to be this

1) Be considerate

This applies to the venue remember this is a school, players, other people models and the residents. Sounds corny but hey that’s how I roll.

How about we follow Weatons Law?

Don't Be A Dick.

Flat pack scenery is possible.
Check out Warmills Battlesnap range, it's snaps together.

Ok if its going to be a case where we buy scenary/anything else with club funds, we are having a constitution. With the help of a friend who runs a net ball club I have come up with the following.

__________________________Club Constitution

1. Name

The Club will be called ___________________________ (hereinafter called the Club)

2. Executive Committee

The management of the Club shall be vested in the Executive Committee (hereinafter called “the Executive Committee”) and will become the Club’s Officers, consisting of:

Position Post Holder
Secretary Alex Atkins
Chairperson
Vice Chair
Treasurer Alex Atkins
Vice Treasurer

Only these posts will be responsible for:

• The Executive Committee shall act for the members. Liabilities incurred shall fall upon the membership (provided the Executive Committee act in accordance with the constitution, in honesty and good faith).

• Meetings of the Executive Committee shall be convened by the Secretary, and shall meet as required but not less than 2 times a year.

• The quorum for the transaction of business at Executive Committee meetings shall be one more than half the total number of officers. (Note this quorum will differ for General meetings.)

• Every decision at a meeting of the Executive Committee shall be determined by a majority of the vote of the Executive Committee members present and every voting Executive Committee member having one vote. In the event of an equality of votes the Chairperson shall have a casting vote.

• The interpretation of the Club constitution shall be vested in the Executive Committee, who shall decide all questions relating to the Club, save those specified in or involving an amendment to the constitution.

• The Executive Committee shall be responsible for considering any application for membership and shall decide if this application should be accepted. The decision shall be in accordance with a non-discriminatory policy specified in 5 above.

• The Executive Committee may delegate some or all of its powers and decision-making to a sub-committee. Any sub-committee must act only within the authority delegated to it by the Executive Committee.

• No member of the Executive Committee shall own or hold any interest in land belonging to the Club unless he or she is doing so as a trustee. A member of the Executive Committee may not have a financial interest in any contract entered into by the Club except where he or she was supplying the goods or services to the Club at or below the fair market price and on normal trade terms.

• Adopting new policy, codes of conduct and rules that affect the organisation of the Club.

• Be responsible for maintenance and revision of the Club rules.

• Be responsible for disciplinary hearings of members who infringe the Club rules.

• Be responsible for taking any action of suspension or discipline following such hearings.

3. Aims and Objectives

The aims and objectives of the Club will be:

• To offer coaching and competitive opportunities in War-Gaming

• To promote the club and War-Gaming within the local community

• To ensure a duty of care to all members of the Club

• To provide opportunities for involvement in War-Gaming in a way that is fair to everyone

• To ensure that all present and future members receive fair and equal treatment

• The Executive Committee shall have the power to do any other act directly and necessarily connected to the achievement of the objectives, including effecting insurance, the raising of funds to invite and receive contributions, to borrow money, to invest the Club’s money, to let buildings or other property to employ staff and to undertake joint activities.


4. Membership

Members will be enrolled in one of the following categories:

• Full Members (playing subscribed members )

• Guests (Non Members who wish to use the clubs facilituies and equipment)

• Visitors (Non Members or Guests who will not be playing)

• Members under the age of 16 shall be considered as Junior Members. Junior Members shall not have the right to vote at meetings, but are entitled to elect a representative who shall have the right to vote as a full member of the Club and officer of the Executive Committee.

• All members will be subject to the regulations of the constitution and by joining the Club will be deemed to accept these regulations, rules and codes of conduct that the Club has adopted.

• Membership of the Club shall be open, and not unreasonably restricted on the grounds of sex, race or of political, religious or other opinions, to any person in the area prepared to accept and support the objectives of the club.

• Members and junior members may resign from membership at any time by giving notice to (the club secretary).

5. Membership fees

Full Members
Playing Fee’s will be costed/agreed annually by the Club’s Executive Committee and taken from all Club Full Members via direct debit or Cash Payment on a monthly base.

All membership fees paid in Cash, will be issued with a receipt which will be signed by the payee (being the subscribing member) and the treasurer or other member of the Executive Committee.

All Fees will be paid a full month in advance.

The Club Executive Committee may decide upon other charges or subscriptions at its discretion.

Guests
Playing Fee’s will be costed/agreed annually by the Club’s Executive Committee and taken from all guests via Cash Payment on a game played base.

All Guset fees paid in Cash, will be issued with a receipt which will be signed by the payee (being the subscribing member) and the treasurer or other member of the Executive Committee.

The Club Executive Committee may decide upon other charges or subscriptions at its discretion.

6. Finance

All Club monies will be banked in an account(s) approved by the Committee and held in the name of the Club. The Treasurer will be responsible for finances of the Club. The financial year will end on 30th April each year. Any cheques drawn against Club funds should be signed by a minimum of two signatories. The Treasurer and at least one other officer will be the Club signatories.

Proper accounts shall be kept of all sums of money received and paid out by the club.

A statement of accounts up to and including this date shall be presented at the Annual General Meeting of the Club.

7. Discipline and Appeals

All complaints regarding the behaviour of members should be submitted in writing to the Secretary.

The committee will meet to hear complaints within 7 days of a complaint being lodged.

The committee has the power to take appropriate disciplinary action including the termination of membership.

The outcome of disciplinary hearings should be notified in writing to the person who lodged the complaint and the member against whom the complaint was made within 7 days of the hearing.

There will be the right of appeal to the committee following disciplinary action being announced.

The committee should consider the appeal within 7 days of the Secretary receiving the appeal.

8. Dissolution

In the event of the Club ceasing to exist, and following the discharge of all debts and liabilities, any assets at the time of dissolution shall become the property of _________________________________________. No member shall obtain any asset from the Club.

The Club may be wound up on a resolution of the members, passed by a two thirds majority at a special meeting convened for that purpose upon the request of 10 members of the Club. At least 14 days notice of the meeting shall have been sent to all members of the Club.

In the event of the passing of the resolution to wind up the Club or to amalgamate with another Club the members of the Club shall appoint a representative committee which shall be empowered to distribute the assets, including cash and investments in hand, to ____________________________ or Clubs having similar objectives as their own.

9. Amendments to the Constitution

• All amendments to the constitution should be submitted to the Secretary in writing.

• This constitution shall be reviewed on a yearly basis.

• In the event of a proposal for amending the constitution being submitted, the Secretary shall inform the membership of the proposed motion not less than ten days before the meeting.

• Any amendments to the proposed motion duly proposed and seconded in like manner shall be submitted in writing to the Secretary not later then five days before the said meeting.

• Any alteration to the constitution shall require a two-thirds majority of members present and voting.

• In the event of any question or matter arising, which is not provided in the constitution, such question or matter shall be dealt with by the Executive Committee, whose decision shall be final.


10. Equity Policy statement

This club is committed to ensuring that equity is incorporated across all aspects of its development. In doing so it acknowledges and adopts the following definition of War-Gaming equity:

“War-Gaming equity is about fairness in sport, equality of access, recognising inequalities and taking steps to address them. It is about changing the culture and structure of War-Gaming to ensure it becomes equally accessible to everyone in society”.

The club respects the rights, dignity and worth of every person and will treat everyone equally within the context of their War-Gaming, regardless of age, ability, gender, race, ethnicity, religious belief, sexuality or social/economic status.

The club is committed to everyone having the right to enjoy their War-Gaming in an environment free from threat of intimidation, harassment and abuse.

All club members have a responsibility to oppose discriminatory behaviour and promote equality of opportunity.

The club will deal with any incidence of discriminatory behaviour seriously, according to club disciplinary procedures.


11. Voting Procedures

Each member shall be entitled to one vote.

A motion shall be carried by a simple majority of those present and voting, except when the motion is a constitutional amendment, which shall require a two-thirds majority.

The Chairperson shall have a casting vote in addition to a deliberative vote.

12. Property and Staff

Responsibility for all property owned or leased by the Club and for the
employment of paid staff and volunteers rests with the Executive Committee.


14. Agreement of the Constitution

The constitution, originally written by the Secretary of the executive committee and agreed by the executive committee _______________, are voted and agreed each year at the AGM. Amendments are proposed and agreed as above.


If no one else wants to be part of the executive committee that fine, I can amend and make myself supreme ruler

Sounds good man.
I would be willing to be on the Exec. Comit.

And Vote for Alex to be Supreme Overlord.

And we need a name.

Gah legalese, my head is going to explode.

Nah only joking looks fine to me.

Quick definition of the roles and responsibilities of the committe members, so you know what you are getting yourself into before you apply.

Secretary - Alex Atkins
Responsible for ensuring all other committee members are doing their Jobs, responsible for arranging committee meetings, recording and holding member details, all requests regarding changes in the constitution or disciplinary matters will first be submitted to the secretary.

Chairperson
Is the figure head, will chair meetings, be the face of the club, responsible for public relations and will be the primary contact for non club members. Has the deciding vote in respect of drawn votes.

Vice Chair
To stand in for secretary or Chair as and when the need arises.

Treasurer - Alex Atkins
All things financial, collecting membership, paying fees, keeping accounts, signing receipts.

Vice Treasurer
To second check all treasurers’ calculations, to take on the role of treasure should he/she be unavailable.

Before we all get to excited I will start getting stuff in place, at the moment initial membership is looking like £15 for the month. I would also like to put forth my nominations for the above vacant positions.

Chairperson: Formosa
Vice Chair: Gorillawizard
Vice Treasure: Lorna

apologies to those I have not mentioned, but my nominations are based on the people who have expressed to me the most interest and enthusiasm. However these postions are still up for grabs and will be voted upon during the first meeting. Along with deciding a name.

I agree with those noms.

Formosa makes sense as does Gorilla, and I'm cool with being V.T.

If this goes ahead, what day are we looking at?