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See the problem I have with that is, that city fight & planet strike both require a fair bit of pre planning in order to done well.

Which won't work with randoms.


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Just for everyones reference I was at the store at lunch and ran into Lorna and Formosa.

I idea is now we'll run two campaigns

The first, at GW, is going to a simple tree/flow chart style campaign.

Second is one we'll run after the first just for people who can commit to playing and this is going to be the full on narrative campaign we wanted.

As Mr spank said, the first will be a "dumbed down" campagn for everyone at GW, this will be a tree campagn with minimal graphics (lorna) and Fluff (alex) and rules (me)
i will set up 8 scenarios, each part of the tree will correspond to a week, so 8 scenarios and 8 weeks.

After the GW campagn, we will run a true campagn, I will buy the planetary empires box and it will run from there.

the second campagn will have a max of 8 players, 6 normal and 2 bogey players incase someone cant make it, me and Oli will be the bogey players.

I am with Spankhammer, regarding that i want a true'lly epic campagn, with several hard games being fought over key territories and epic last stands involving the enemy (lorna) having 1500pts more, one sided but cool.
I want to smash Alex's guard clean off my planet and then attack his

Awsome

Why do you hat my guard So much

I'll just have to try and make sure I out number you in every battle true guard style.

Fluff for the first campaign, are we keeping the stuff we've got?

I'm thinking fluff will have to be done retroactively after each battle to give me something to work with.

for the second it will be alot easier to write stuff ahead of time because will have a solid framework in place.

We don't hate your guard we just want to see them die in droves (like they're meant to).

Right I'll talk to you lot on Thursday. The two campaign thing sounds sensible. Although I do think both ought to be put off until after TOMG since I need time to increase the size of my BT and atm all my attention is on getting everything needed for TOMG done.

But that's just me being a bit selfish.

its after ToMG lol, so its not a problem.. and yes Guard should die!!! Unless Creeeeeed pulls of a "all you bases are belong to us" maneuver


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SpankHammer III wrote:Why do you hat my guard So much

I'll just have to try and make sure I out number you in every battle true guard style.

Fluff for the first campaign, are we keeping the stuff we've got?

I'm thinking fluff will have to be done retroactively after each battle to give me something to work with.

for the second it will be alot easier to write stuff ahead of time because will have a solid framework in place.

If you want to keep the existing fluff cool, if not, its up to you. I like what you have written though

and retroactive is a good idea, this means we can tell everyone what has happened after the battle, and even feature there armies in the fluff a little

and again yep i agree, for the second campagn we have plenty of time to get it sorted and lookin nice... Btw, I have made some terrain already...
i will bring it on thursday

Fine my guard have no problem with laying down their lives for the emprah.

Cool look forward to see the terrain.

Wooo, so many genestealers and tyrranofi

Oh god, not more gribblyness.

can i be rude and ask everyone to make ONE piece of terrain for thursday, it doesn't need to be big, I have made a large wooded area (tall enough that the FW Hive tyrant can't be seen behind it) and a large swamp area (i made it on the movement trays so im able to change its shape or have bits of it all over the board) and i have touched up a derilict house to use in our games too.

all really easy to make.

this will sound selfish but, this terrain we make will be for our use only, as alot of the tools down GW broke the terrain me and Lorna and Nick built and painted (i was pissed off) and i don't think any of us want a repeat of this.

so what i have done is make most of my terrain on the fantasy movement trays, this allows us to spread it out and add it all together, so if several of us make a crop field and add them together, it would be quite nice.. and cheap.

here is how you do it.

1 fantasy movement tray
1 scouring pad (green one for washing dishes)
cut the pad to fit in tray and glue in place (or not its up to you)
spray black
paint any colour you wish (mine is a swamp)
for crop affect use an old wall painting brush (about the size of you hand and brown bristles) and twist the bristles and super glue them at the base (this can get messy so be warned)
then cut off the bristle's (not too much) and glue around the scouring pad.
leave a little room for models (i suggest only adding bristles to the edge and leaving the middle clear, it will count as area terrain so abstraction is ok)
all this can be done for under £3

you dont have to make anything, but im asking as we need the terrain

peace out

Sorry mate but I don't really have time to do that sort of thing this week. With the combination of job hunting (+ interview on Thursday), PC problems and TOMG painting to finish I don't have much time for anything else.

Yeah i can help with this, i'l try to make one or 2 today or tomorrow if i can find a paint brush. I'll have a look see if i can make anything else.

cheers guys, i dont mean this thursday lol, i meant thursdays in general

i appreciate the help dudes

Ah right, well I'll see what I can do next week/over the weekend.

Well atm i'm working on a field of corn which i've used my movement tray from my screaming bell unit, so it's rather large

That could be over kill.

I've got some terrain I've made none of it's awesome and it all based around my dessert theme so will probably not go with anyone elses and some of its not really finished, Wow this starting to sound really , but i'm more than appy to bring it along.

Oh and most of its quite large.

it dont have to be perfect, after all we are all making it lol.

and i really care if it all looks right together, it would just be nice to have more than a hill and 1 building.. which will get pinched for another table later in the game (usually by me tbh) at least this way we all have terrain for ourselves (meaning us lot) that the trolls cant break (back me up lorna and nick, we spent all afternoon doing that stuff)

my swamp when finished will be 6x6 movement trays, is that big enough? it could also be spaced lengthways to mag a boggy river


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oh forgot to say, Im thinking about adding legs to my rocky outcrop... I dont know why but i want a Hermit Rock (like the crab) and i think it would be funny if you hunker down in some terrain... only for it to walk off

hmmm a walking rock, kinda reminds me of the neverending story film.
6x6 sounds great, my crop field is 9"x7". It's been put together and sprayed black but i don't think i'm gona have enough paint to actually paint it atm.
Not sure wether to make it a crop field or a swamp tbh what do you guys think, are we gona be fighting over farmland or baron worlds

Both!

if your short on paint, then dry brush is some random coulours, then call it "Tainted Farmland" go nuts dude, it don't need to look good or amazing.

Just remember "Don't not panic"

here is the rules for my terrain.

Swamp: Any model with an AS of 4+ (lower, I.e 3+ save takes test) or more must take a Dangerous terrain test (as they sink in the swamp) when moving through a swamp, Vehicles do not take a DT test, nor do Jump/jet troops.

The Hermit Hill:
The Hermit hill is a unique creature, it is both harmless and extremely shy, and completely deaf. A whole battle could rage around it and it wouldnt move an inch, however should any creature (or vegetable.. ork) come in contact with it, it will scuttle away at high speed, this is at extreme odd's, as it is both Huge (land Raider sized) and nearly immune to all known weapon system's. The Adeptus mechanicus has been trying to capture a specimen for study due to its unique crystal like growth on it's back , but it has proven immune to all imperial weapons up to and including Titan sized ordanance.
This has led to many Titan Praetorii useing it for target practice, as one praetor exclaimed
"Its just like shooting at those bloody Xenos Titan's, the only diference? It doesn't realize it can fight back.. Hof hof hof"

The Hermit Hill:
Ws BS S T W I A LD SV Pts
10 10 10 10 20!! 10 10 9000! 1+? 0
Special Rules: The Hermit Hill is treated just like any other area Terrain (Counts as Reinforced, so 3+ cover save) however the unit that move's onto it or in contact with it, will trigger it to "Scuttle Off" in the next turn (player turn).
It move's 3d6 in a random direction, should it contact anything (impassible terrain or unit) it immediatly stops, if this is on, or touching a unit, that unit counts as being in cover.
INVINCWIBBLE!!: Despite being a hugely powerfull creature, it has the mind of a cow.. a stupid one... with mental retardation..I.E really really stupid, it cant hurt you... and you cant hurt it.

Ghost House (WWwwooOOooo)
This is treated like any other building, it has a capacity of 10 Infantry models (20 if imperial guard has a commisar, think japanese subway train), however for every turn that a unit is in the terrain it must take a LD Check (LD is not Morale, so fearless does not help) if it fails it immediatly falls back from the house, but regroups automatically afterwards.
A unit that falls back from the house cannot re-enter it.. its too scary (even if fearless)

See! I can come up with cool rules

INVINCWIBBLE, so awesome.

Woohoo i got a massive package today full of tanks and space marines and also my Relthoza

I'll expect to see the Crimson Fist tearing up the table soon then.

Have we pretty much got the Tree/Flow Chart Cammpaign sorted then? well at least to the point it can be presented to Jason

yeah i'll hopefully have a game on thursday if somone wants one, mind you i am pretty much a novice and not all too clued up on the rules but i do keep looking in the rule book. Already got a rhino and a predator painted

I would like to see if we have got the camaign stuff ready by thursday if someone can give a heads up.

THE GRAND STRATEGY


Each Race has its Heroes, some are masters of the combat arts, able to slay there foe in the hundred, others are barely sane bezerkers, others are
masters of logistics able to move men and arms with bewildering accuracy, yet even above these are the Master strategists, Men such as Warmaster Horus, or Lord Solar
Macharius, Yrial of Inyandan, Ghazghull of the Ork and O'shovah of the Tau.

To represent each races abilities at strategy, they have a strategy rating, this will be affected by modifiers.
Each campaign turn, the players roll a dice eqaul to the number of there strategy rating, the player with the highest roll goes first or can declare when he will go

EG: Nick uses space marines, they have a SR of 3, he rolls 3 dice, a 4,6 and a 2, 6 is his highest roll so this is the one he may select.
Alex plays Guard, they have a strat rating of D3+1, Alex shows an odd ammount of luck and rolls a 6, giving his a SR of 4! he rolls three 1's and a 5, so he will go after Nick

whoever goes first may declare who he is attacking, then the second person goes etc.
the mission is set as normal, as is the first turn, however if the player who went first attacks the player who rolled the lowest, he may choose his deployment zone.

Each Race has a Strat Rating as follows

ELDAR(ALL TYPES)
The Eldar are Raiders, they avoid direct conflict at every turn, and skirt around defences whenever possible. rather than smash through them like the Ork, or bury them in
the dead like the Mon'Kiegh. They use there psionic powers to befuddle the mind of there opponents and make them believe that there is an attack coming from a front
that does not exist, or appear from the webway or shadows to pounce on there prey.

To represent there ability to strike from nowhere, or trick there enemy into defending an area that is tactically useless. As such the Eldar have a Strategy Rating of 2, this may however be re-rolled

The Imperial Guard
Hummanties greatest strength is also there biggest weakness, Diversity.
The Imperial guard is just as likely to produce master strategist like Lord solar Macharius and Lord Castellan Creed as it is to produce pompous fools such as Praetor Gulkan, who odered his regiments
to parade infront of a traitor landing zone, so he could show them "the spine and disapline of the Amarite brigades"... there were no survivors

The represent this, the imperial guard have a SR of D3+1, this is done before the campagn begins and applys throughout.

The Space marines:
No other force can attack like the space marines, deploying from space into the heart of the enemy, destoying supply chains and command centres and then redeploying before
and reprisal can be made.

Space marines have a SR of 3

Necrons:
Necrons have been fighting for millions of years, they attack without warning and take objectives and disapear into thin air when completed.
this is next to immpossible to defend against and very few have suceeded.

Necrons have a SR of 3, this may not be modified

Orks:
The Beast, the Animal and the unthinking Horde are all names that the orks have been given by there foes, this however is not allways the case.
Orks have an uncanny ablity to understand War in a way that no other race can understand, the Foe that underestimates them will be swallowed by a tide of
angry green skinned orks

"When Da boss makes a plan, you gitz stick to it see? if ya dont i will thump da lot of youz. daboss is always right... even when e aint"
Orks have a Strat rating of D3, roll at the start of every campaign turn.

Chaos Daemons:
Daemons care nothing for ground taken, or a refinery siezed, all they want is to destroy in the name of there gods.

Daemons have a SR of 1, but may attack any Sqaure on the campaign map.

Tyranids:
Tyranids have a SR of 1, they want biomass ... thats it
However if the Swarmlord is present is becomes 3!

Tau:
Mobility is life, attack withdraw.. attack withdraw, if an area cannot be held it is to be left (and booby trapped) so the tau can focus there limited efforts elseware.
as such the Tau have a SR or 2, However 1 of these dice may be re-rolled.


Next up is the Army wide special rules hope you like guys

Ah so this is moving forwards I did wonder, I guess WOTR got in the way last Thursday.

Good to some rules being developed, you do seem to be missing CSM though unless of course you've lumped them in with SM.

yep spesch mureens is spech mureens, doctrine is about the same, just change tactics for magic etc. lol


a wizard did it

Hmmm. I can quite see that lorna will be putting a Swarmlord in his list now then lol. Nice to see this campaign taking shape. Looks good imo, keep it up Formosa you seem to know your shizzle.

Alex plays Guard, they have a strat rating of D3+1, Alex shows an odd ammount of luck and rolls a 6, giving his a SR of 4! he rolls three 1's and a 5, so he will go after Nick

I like the fact my luck returns to form the very next roll

SpankHammer III wrote:

Alex plays Guard, they have a strat rating of D3+1, Alex shows an odd ammount of luck and rolls a 6, giving his a SR of 4! he rolls three 1's and a 5, so he will go after Nick

I like the fact my luck returns to form the very next roll

Nah your lucks better than that, my luck on hte other hand would dictate three 1s and a 2.

lol tis true