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I'm looking for opinions on whether BA's have any use for shooty terminators. The reason I ask is I wanted to make an army using the Space Hulk terminators, but I haven't seen anyone using this unit.

I always prefer CC Termies due to the extra survivability, and the CC bonus you get from the Red Thirst.

As mentioned the Assault terminators are best but ...

The best shooting terminators are those with cyclone missile launchers. Frag or Krak thats two shots as well as being able to fire their storm bolter.

I run 10 terminators with two assault cannons, reclusiarch and sanguinary priest in Terminator armor fairly regularly. This is a huge immovable firebase that you cannot easily assault. Basically any infant unit that they shoot at is gone and they're very hard to destroy.

They work well as an anchor/spearhead using Fritz's null deployment model.

In short, I love this unit, but they are 700 points...

rdlb wrote:I run 10 terminators with two assault cannons, reclusiarch and sanguinary priest in Terminator armor fairly regularly...Basically any infant unit that they shoot at is gone...

To be fair, I think even my grotz could easily take out a unit of infants

Mega Armoured Northener wrote:

rdlb wrote:I run 10 terminators with two assault cannons, reclusiarch and sanguinary priest in Terminator armor fairly regularly...Basically any infant unit that they shoot at is gone...

To be fair, I think even my grotz could easily take out a unit of infants

I lol'd long and hard.

Tactical Terminators aren't bad in any codex, their just overshadowed by Assault Terminators. The biggest benefit for Tactical Terminators is that they work better without any support (ie a Chaplain, Landraider, Stormraven, etc.) making them effectively cheaper and easier to include in an army's core. Take a CML or AC and walk them up the board. They're a great bully unit in CC and are pretty nasty at range.

I don't think they are that bad eather.

The storm bolter is a good weapon. As in the assault cannon. However the unit does not have any good ways to take out tanks from afar. Come to that, neather does regular assault marines. Getting power fists in the face hurts justa s mutch as hammers, it is just that the hammers save on 3+.

However as a spacewolf/tyranid player I did not have ANY good way to shoot down all of his terminators who where giving me a pounding ecah round I have met them.

DarkHound wrote:

Mega Armoured Northener wrote:

rdlb wrote:I run 10 terminators with two assault cannons, reclusiarch and sanguinary priest in Terminator armor fairly regularly...Basically any infant unit that they shoot at is gone...

To be fair, I think even my grotz could easily take out a unit of infants

I lol'd long and hard.

That's what I get for using voice recognition software...

I think you should use them. A Priest makes the shooty Termies very tough. And as has been said they are effectively cheaper than assault termies since they usually need a ride. SW would hate to see shooty termies as they seem to take lots of missiles.

I picked up Space Hulk Terminators and a Stormraven around the same time. I'm putting the Tactical Terminators with an Epistolary Terminator (using Calistarius, obviously) with Sanguine Sword and Unleash Rage, and I've got 3 deepstriking Furious Charge/FNP bubbles in my army. I look forward to taking on some Monstrous Creatures.

rdlb wrote:I run 10 terminators with two assault cannons, reclusiarch and sanguinary priest in Terminator armor fairly regularly. This is a huge immovable firebase that you cannot easily assault. Basically any infant unit that they shoot at is gone and they're very hard to destroy.

They work well as an anchor/spearhead using Fritz's null deployment model.

In short, I love this unit, but they are 700 points...

This model refers to Nids.
How do you implement this model with BA? Outflankers?

I know the model doesn't describe BA in that article, but Fritz ports it to a bunch of other codices and you can get the same idea. A big menace in the center that you can't easily kill or avoid, and a bunch of jump pack squads deep striking to hem you in.

You don't need a character to boost reserves since you have the DOA reroll, and if you need something that can assault when it arrives, like outflankers, scout bikes or vanguard are two good choices.

Mega Armoured Northener wrote:

rdlb wrote:I run 10 terminators with two assault cannons, reclusiarch and sanguinary priest in Terminator armor fairly regularly...Basically any infant unit that they shoot at is gone...

To be fair, I think even my grotz could easily take out a unit of infants

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Do not put sanguange priests with terminators. They are already quite good. Your oponent will need to take them out with ap 1 and 2, and the priest will not help with that. :-)

Niiai wrote:Do not put sanguange priests with terminators. They are already quite good. Your oponent will need to take them out with ap 1 and 2, and the priest will not help with that. :-)

People kill terminators with mass fire or mass CC attacks there isn't much point using AP1/2 weapons when most armies can put down a sizable volume of either CC or shooting wounds.

Niiai wrote:Do not put sanguange priests with terminators. They are already quite good. Your oponent will need to take them out with ap 1 and 2, and the priest will not help with that. :-)

But do most people still take lots of plasma? If they are shooting melta guns are termies I think I would probably be ok with it (cause they aren't shooting at tanks). If they try and take the termies out with massed fire then it doubles their already considerable survivability.

Not saying its right, I'm just curious what is usually taking peoples termies out?