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I think that a gretchin could destroy a planet and turn the Emperors bones into dust...
(sorry for grammar)


This is how: Gretchin shoots a guardsman with a Meltagun, the Meltagun fires at a baneblade in close range just aiming at ork Deffkoptaz high above, the Meltagun shot finds the baneblade weak spot and destroys it, sending the shell high up in the air. The shell hits an Imperial ship in it's weak spot ( ) making it crash on the IG army. the Inquisition comes to the planet to destroy it. When the ship lands, the grot sneaks in it. After the planet is destroyed the Inquisition head to the holy Terra. The grot, hiding in the vehicle bay pulls out a few wires and the vehicle bay is filled with methane. a probe comes to the vehicle bay and starts fixing one of the chimeras damaged earlier for an unknown reason. the grot gets scared and fires his gun... BOOM! everyone aboard except the grot is killed . The gretchin stars to play with the ships controls and accidentally puts it on crashing course with the golden palace. it manouvers through all the AA-platforms unharmd and explodes at the golden gates. the gretchin flies uncautiously in to the palace. When he wakes up, he finds the palace empty, because all guards are outside waiting for another ''attack''. The grot finds himself a nice comfy throne to sleep in and throws the bones away...

Okay, I don't really know how to properly reconcile this topic, so instead I'll tell you a related story.

So in 1914 Franz Ferdinand and some of his bros were cruising through the streets of Sarajevo. Ordinarily this wouldn't be a big deal besides the lack of seatbelts at the time, and mass pregnancies his posse left in its wake - however Franz was an Austrian Archduke, and a fella in the crowd named Gavrilo Princip really wanted to kill him. Gavrilo was hired by a terrorist group named - I kid you not - The Black Hand.

Now the Black Hand had a brilliant plan, let's throw a bomb at this donkey-cave. So when Franz came cruising by, another guy named Cabrinovic, also working for the Black Hand hurled a sorta home made grenade at Franz, Lenin style (wait that hadn't happened yet - SPOILER ALERT). The problem is it was 1914, meaning anything homemade or explosive was probably pretty gakky. It took too long to explode, and ended up taking out the car behind Franz. Assumingly Franz could hear the blast even behind the phat bass from his sub.

Then a lot of things happened at once. Cabrinovic tried swallowing a cyanide pill, but he was officially having the worst day ever, and the pill didn't work. Franz and his driver (Franz apparently called shotgun) make haste for a safe house, and Gavrilo (you remember that guy?) decides he's going to get some lunch. Cabrinovic continues his attempts of drowning himself, and throws himself off a bridge, into a three foot deep river to drown himself. Franz decides he wants to go to the hospital to check on the people hurt by his failed assassination. Lost in a foreign city, they criss cross all over Sarajevo, until finally the driver stops for directions.

They go to the same freaking restaurant Gavrilo is having lunch. Gavrilo stands up, drops his sandwich, pulls out a revolver and shoots Franz. Franz dies, everyone goes to war with everyone, World War 1 breaks out. Because of a sandwich.

But sure, the grot thing is pretty cool too.

Well thats an interesting take on the start of the great war..factuly correct but some how...wrong?.

You didnt get past the fact that the emporer can still effect things around him. He would blast the grot.

Ribon Fox wrote:Well thats an interesting take on the start of the great war..factuly correct but some how...wrong?.

Cum hoc ergo propter hoc.

What the... I don't even...

Correlation does not imply causation.

ChocolateGork wrote:You didnt get past the fact that the emporer can still effect things around him. He would blast the grot.

emperor is dead

*HEAD IMPLODES*

Jaon wrote:*HEAD IMPLODES*

THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T TAKE YOUR HELMET OFF IN SPACE!

If anyone planned to kill the Emperor, I think he would sense this, know about it, and therefore be able to prevent it. A Grot could probably kill the Emperor if he did it by accident, however. I think your chain of events needs to be changed to show a complete lack of intent on the part of the plucky Grot.

edit: Just re-read - yeah I think that would work. I didn't realise he guided the ship in just by mucking about - I thought he was doing it deliberately.


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Squash wrote:

Jaon wrote:*HEAD IMPLODES*

THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T TAKE YOUR HELMET OFF IN SPACE!

Taking his helmet off in space would cause his head to explode, not implode.[/physics teacher]

Fifty wrote:[/physics teacher]

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Oy. I was kidding, but all right. No, your head wont explode in space. If you're suddenly exposed to a vacuum a couple things will happen. First you'll get a nasty sunburn. Then your skin will start to mildly swell. Your flesh wont rip out in an orgy of blood and gore, it'll swell like a bruise, or a rash. More like a rash. Your blood will start to boil, and after a couple minutes (yeah, minutes) you'll asphyxiate. I know what you're about to say - all the air in your lungs will burst out. No, actually the air in your lungs will boil into the walls of your lungs, giving them severe burns. There's no exploding or imploding, and nothing happens instantly, you'll just slowly die.

Please, please, please tell me you aren't a high school physics teacher.

Either way, we all learned a lesson today. Removing ones helmet when in space is unwise at best.

Back to the op...

Fluff wise? I'd say the most damage a grot can do is when it's attached to a rokkit.

gpfunk wrote:Back to the op...

Fluff wise? I'd say the most damage a grot can do is when it's attached to a rokkit.

Or the beauitful mass murdering dust bins known as Killa Kans

They could suck someone into the warp if fired out of a Shokk Attack Gun.

A baneblade round would never take down an Imperial Ship, sweet spot or not.


Its like literally trying to take down an elephant with a BB gun

You guys are all wrong the grot didn't kill the Emperor.

Tzeentch did!

Tzeentech must have great planning for it to successfully kill the emperor. As we all know great planing must require tactical Geniu........ CRRRRRRRREEEEEDDDDD

Pfft, actually the Alpha Legion tricked the Grots into believing it was capable and then, using ork logic, it happened...

You must ALWAYS, suspect the Alpha Legion!

You know why there so many malfunctions with the golden thrown? Because a grot has been living inside of it for thousands of years!.

Oh my god that is brilliant

ok firstly grots dont get fired from shokk attak guns snotlings do, secondly to the OP this requires far too much planning and initiative on the grots part, a grots overwhelming instincts are to run and hide at the sound of loud noises, cower gibberingly until the danger has past then tell all your mates you werent scared, kick someone smaller than you then wander off before tripping over a landmine.

Fifty wrote:If anyone planned to kill the Emperor, I think he would sense this, know about it, and therefore be able to prevent it. A Grot could probably kill the Emperor if he did it by accident, however. I think your chain of events needs to be changed to show a complete lack of intent on the part of the plucky Grot.

edit: Just re-read - yeah I think that would work. I didn't realise he guided the ship in just by mucking about - I thought he was doing it deliberately.


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Squash wrote:

Jaon wrote:*HEAD IMPLODES*

THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T TAKE YOUR HELMET OFF IN SPACE!

Taking his helmet off in space would cause his head to explode, not implode.[/physics teacher]

Pffft! If in his Prime he didn't even notice several thousand marines decididing they wanted to kill him. I doubt he'd notice a single person/grot.

Guys we're getting our fluff wrong. The first two posts were almost correct, it's only that the words "sandwhich" and "grot" need to be flipped around.

Go back and read it as such.

ChiliPowderKeg wrote:Guys we're getting our fluff wrong. The first two posts were almost correct, it's only that the words "sandwhich" and "grot" need to be flipped around.

Go back and read it as such.

Squash wrote:

Fifty wrote:[/physics teacher]

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.............................,.-”...................................“-.,
.........................,/...............................................”:,
.....................,?......................................................\,
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................./......................................................,:`^`..}
.............../...................................................,:”........./
..............?.....__.........................................:`.........../
............./__.(.....“~-,_..............................,:`........../
.........../(_....”~,_........“~,_....................,:`........_/
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.....`=~-,_\_......`\,.................................\
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................................`:,,...........................`\..............__
.....................................`=-,...................,%`>--==``
........................................_\..........._,-%.......`\
...................................,<`.._|_,-&``................`\

Oy. I was kidding, but all right. No, your head wont explode in space. If you're suddenly exposed to a vacuum a couple things will happen. First you'll get a nasty sunburn. Then your skin will start to mildly swell. Your flesh wont rip out in an orgy of blood and gore, it'll swell like a bruise, or a rash. More like a rash. Your blood will start to boil, and after a couple minutes (yeah, minutes) you'll asphyxiate. I know what you're about to say - all the air in your lungs will burst out. No, actually the air in your lungs will boil into the walls of your lungs, giving them severe burns. There's no exploding or imploding, and nothing happens instantly, you'll just slowly die.

Please, please, please tell me you aren't a high school physics teacher.

You DEFINITELY freeze to death first.

You would think! But actually the friction caused by rapid chemical reactions in your body (blood boiling for instance) will actually keep you warm enough to survive until you suffocate. Cool huh?

Considering how silly 40k fluff is already, I wouldn't doubt that this could indeed happen.