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As it states is it stackable? if it is not please explain why?

its stackable from diffrent sources.

Yes, it is stackable.

Different sources AND it is not resolved simultaneously.

It is stackable with one of the Librarian's Psychic powers that grants +1 S and +D6 Armour Penetration, I know that much. Not sure about the actual power itself stacking.. but it seems everyone else thinks it can be so..

I don't think it's stackable.

However, you can use Might of Titan and Hammerhand together; MoT is the Librarian Power that gives you +1S and +D6 Armour Pen.

Edit: It isn't stackable. Upon thinking about this, it'd be possible to have S8 Paladins, if it was; Draigo HH, Libby HH and MoT, Paladins HH. No way is that RAI.

Nothing you have posted amounts to rules. Please see the other threads on this - RAW it stacks.

Multiple instances of Furious Charge doesn't stack, and I don't believe the Eldar Warlock Enchance power stacks either.

While these are all different abilities, they all provide a bonus to stats.

Because all instances of FC are simultaneous, and all work off the same stat

Hammerhand is cast IN SEQUENCE, and modifies the strength of the unit.

Key, fundamental difference between the two ideas. Or, in other words, dont compare apples to oranges

What about a group of 10 Warlocks with each model having the Enhance power? They don't get to be WS4/14, just WS4/5.

thats cause eldar arent a matt ward codex and therefore suck. GK are auto win. so the answer here just be obvious...."matt ward".

DarthSpader wrote:thats cause eldar arent a matt ward codex and therefore suck. GK are auto win. so the answer here just be obvious...."matt ward".

Or because the entry actually says that it doesn't stack?

Enhance did stack in the previous edition. It doesn't now because it says it doesn't.

It definitely stacks. It's almost completely unnecessary to stack above S5 or 6 unless you are attacking a vehicle anyway, but it does stack.

stackable from different sources, though I dunno why you would ever have 2 Hammerhand's going off.

Unit + Librarian should be Hammerhand + Titanhand.

With the Librarian's second psychic power being used on something like shrouding, sanctuary, or quicksilver.

Shrouding is used in the opponents phase, and so is a different "turn" for the mastery rule.

RAW Hammerhand stacks.


you won't really ever have more then 2 instances, although you could have 2 hammerhands and 1 might of titan(Squad plus Libby casting both Hammerhand and MoT)


i would increase your abilities vs High T models or Vehicles, but aside from that there is really no point.

Grey Templar wrote:RAW Hammerhand stacks.


you won't really ever have more then 2 instances, although you could have 2 hammerhands and 1 might of titan(Squad plus Libby casting both Hammerhand and MoT)


i would increase your abilities vs High T models or Vehicles, but aside from that there is really no point.

and you probably wouldnt want to do that unless it has EW as you would use up all your casts and be unable to activate your NFWs

It doesn't stack. It'll only stack if it says so. For example, Might of Titan expressly gives you permission to stack with hammerhand. No where does hammerhand give you permission to do so.

And there is precedent. Astropaths, Officers of the Fleet and Hive Commander have all been FAQ'd to not stack.

Grey Templar wrote:RAW Hammerhand stacks.


you won't really ever have more then 2 instances, although you could have 2 hammerhands and 1 might of titan(Squad plus Libby casting both Hammerhand and MoT)


i would increase your abilities vs High T models or Vehicles, but aside from that there is really no point.

Especially if the 2nd stacking source is a GM with rad grenades.

jy2 wrote:It doesn't stack. It'll only stack if it says so. For example, Might of Titan expressly gives you permission to stack with hammerhand. No where does hammerhand give you permission to do so.

And there is precedent. Astropaths, Officers of the Fleet and Hive Commander have all been FAQ'd to not stack.

Precedent for the FAQ to change it,

RAW has no such thing.

if something gives you +1 of anything and you have multiples of the same thing then it will stack unless otherwise indicated.

it just says +1. additions stack unless indicated otherwise.

jy2 wrote:
And there is precedent. Astropaths, Officers of the Fleet and Hive Commander have all been FAQ'd to not stack.

However, Autarchs DO stack, so there's precedent either way.

Stacks.

GKGM + GKTs + Anval Thawn + GKLibby (mastery 3):

Hammerhandx4, Might of Titan, Quicksilver.

S9, +2d6 v vehicles, I10. Add rad grenades, blind grenades, and psychotroke grenades for a giant 'FU' to any assault squad anywhere.

Grey Templar wrote:

jy2 wrote:It doesn't stack. It'll only stack if it says so. For example, Might of Titan expressly gives you permission to stack with hammerhand. No where does hammerhand give you permission to do so.

And there is precedent. Astropaths, Officers of the Fleet and Hive Commander have all been FAQ'd to not stack.

Precedent for the FAQ to change it,

RAW has no such thing.

if something gives you +1 of anything and you have multiples of the same thing then it will stack unless otherwise indicated.

it just says +1. additions stack unless indicated otherwise.

In that case, my blood angels assault marines are getting +2S and +2I because they are in range of 2 sanguinary priests.

Or how about if you're casting a psychic power at my unit in range of 3 dreads? -12 to you psychic test?

I don't think so.

Why does Might of the Titan have to expressly give you permission to stack with another ability and that hammerhand doesn't? If they automatically stack, then there is no need for the Might of Titan to do so.


Ball's on your court, mate.




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Platuan4th wrote:

jy2 wrote:
And there is precedent. Astropaths, Officers of the Fleet and Hive Commander have all been FAQ'd to not stack.

However, Autarchs DO stack, so there's precedent either way.

Autarch's are an exception. They can give you full, half or no bonuses. Their choice. They're unique in that regards and can't really be used as a precedent, unless you're arguing that multiple hive commanders, astropaths and officers can let you choose what type of bonuses you want to apply.

No it isnt, as the examples you gave are invalid

If you are in range of 2 sanguinary priests you still have FC. FC grants +1 S/I.

If you are in range of 3 dreads you are within 12" of A dread and therefore are at -4. Same as when you have 1 or 10,000 waaagh banners in a unit: you are still at +1WS because of the wording of the rule

With hammerhand you cast it once, you are now S+1

You cast it again, you are now (S+1) + 1

Balls back in your court: prove it DOESNT stack, as we have proven, repeatedly, that it does.

Rules for a change would be great as well.

All the contrary examples I'm reading are simultaneous. Hammerhand is cast (resolves), next unit casts (resolves) etc. Unless they specifically FAQ otherwise, it stacks.

Btw - regarding the "Why would you cast hammerhand when you can cast Might of Titan" - I believe MoT can only be cast on your own turn. Hammerhand can be cast in any assault phase.