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Or does the squad deep strike then split?

If you are allowing squads that are arriving from Reserves to split, then they would split as they Deep Strike, so would be placed separately.


However, the current Rulebook FAQ has muddied the waters somewhat here, by stating that squads kept in Reserve can't be split into Combat Squads.

Some players think that this should be taken the same as for the Dark Angels Combat Squad rule, which means that if the squad is kept in Reserve, it can't be split into Combat Squads unless it arrives by Drop Pod (which specifically allows it),

Some prefer to believe that the FAQ is referring to the squad being split while in Reserve, and so the squad can split as it arrives from Reserve... which would allow them to split on Deep Striking.

You'll need to decide with your opponent which way to play it.

insaniak wrote:If you are allowing squads that are arriving from Reserves to split, then they would split as they Deep Strike, so would be placed separately.


However, the current Rulebook FAQ has muddied the waters somewhat here, by stating that squads kept in Reserve can't be split into Combat Squads.

Some players think that this should be taken the same as for the Dark Angels Combat Squad rule, which means that if the squad is kept in Reserve, it can't be split into Combat Squads unless it arrives by Drop Pod (which specifically allows it),

Some prefer to believe that the FAQ is referring to the squad being split while in Reserve, and so the squad can split as it arrives from Reserve... which would allow them to split on Deep Striking.

You'll need to decide with your opponent which way to play it.

i agree. my friends agree that we can split it up once you deepstrike. once you land the 10 man squad is considered 2 combat squads that are just clustered together.

There should be no requirement to deep strike them in the same place. The Combat Squads rule specifically allows the splitting units to be deployed in different locations.

insaniak wrote:There should be no requirement to deep strike them in the same place. The Combat Squads rule specifically allows the splitting units to be deployed in different locations.

thats the thing. we interpreted the rule that way. once they hit the table they split. we kinda alternate between when they successfully come in via deep strike and when they land, it just kinda happens.

kenzosan wrote:

insaniak wrote:There should be no requirement to deep strike them in the same place. The Combat Squads rule specifically allows the splitting units to be deployed in different locations.

thats the thing. we interpreted the rule that way. once they hit the table they split. we kinda alternate between when they successfully come in via deep strike and when they land, it just kinda happens.

So when SM players are deploying normally you force them to Deploy both halves within normal unit Coherency(with each other, i.e. the 2 half-squads, must be within 2")?

I think they can be combat squaded and deep striked separately
in which case they are placed,scatter and mishap separetely.

they are together as one squad when off the board. they arrive on the same turn. you cant deep strike half of them and have half of them start on the board.

Kommissar Kel wrote:

kenzosan wrote:

insaniak wrote:There should be no requirement to deep strike them in the same place. The Combat Squads rule specifically allows the splitting units to be deployed in different locations.

thats the thing. we interpreted the rule that way. once they hit the table they split. we kinda alternate between when they successfully come in via deep strike and when they land, it just kinda happens.

So when SM players are deploying normally you force them to Deploy both halves within normal unit Coherency(with each other, i.e. the 2 half-squads, must be within 2")?

I use a ba doa army. I don't deploy anything. That's why I said it changes back and forthan the onlly other sm guy is sw and he drop pods a lot.

Well, the Faq reads it cannot be combat squaded when placed in reserve; to me this reads that you cannot combat squad, deploy half your squad, and reserve the other half.

Combat squadding happens when the unit is DEPLOYED. Meaning that you have to deploy the entire unit at the same time. Deep striking or coming in from reserve is when the unit is "deployed"; so yes, you can combat squad when they come in from the table edge or deep strike. Thats when the unit is technically deployed.

I think the FAQ was just meant to prevent people from deploying half their squad with a heavy weapon and reserving the other half, or other such shennanigans

kenzosan wrote:thats the thing. we interpreted the rule that way. once they hit the table they split. we kinda alternate between when they successfully come in via deep strike and when they land, it just kinda happens.

I've always played it the way deep strike says. Place a model, scatter and place the rest around the model. You do this for each squad, so twice. This way they are deployed in different locations as combat squad says.

I agree. Problem is we go by house rules, my friend changes his mind on whether they land together or separate, and I agree since he bought the table and its at his house

kenzosan wrote:I agree. Problem is we go by house rules, my friend changes his mind on whether they land together or separate, and I agree since he bought the table and its at his house

Easily solved by you buying the beer before the next time you talk about house rules.

*EDIT* Post was about different topic (apparently) LoL

Thanks Biotox for pointing out a rule that was never in dispute. The discussion is about non-Pod deep strikers.

I am of the opinion they are rolled for simultaneously (as they are considered 1 unit while in reserve) and then as you deploy them via deepstrike you separate them, meaning two separate locations, two scatter rolls, etc.

Zid wrote:Well, the Faq reads it cannot be combat squaded when placed in reserve; to me this reads that you cannot combat squad, deploy half your squad, and reserve the other half.

Combat squadding happens when the unit is DEPLOYED. Meaning that you have to deploy the entire unit at the same time. Deep striking or coming in from reserve is when the unit is "deployed"; so yes, you can combat squad when they come in from the table edge or deep strike. Thats when the unit is technically deployed.

I think the FAQ was just meant to prevent people from deploying half their squad with a heavy weapon and reserving the other half, or other such shennanigans

Agreed.