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So my friend is starting a new list that has: Gazkhul and a bunch of nobz w/ power klaws in a battle wagon, zogwort with im presuming boyz, another squad of 30 boyz 15 lootas, 3 defkoptas, a weird boy too i thinkand some gretchin. The battle wagon does NOT have a deffrolla.

My list: destroyer wing w/ 10 destroyers, 1 heavy destroyer, 1 monolith, around 20 warriors, the deciever, necron lord w/ vod and rez orb and some pariahs to escort my deceiver and make everything around ld. 7

So what worries me alot recently are the pyskers, hell be running them with boyz or nobz or something that always makes them pass leader ship, that combined with one good roll can potentially spell death for even my most powerful units. having to worry about him along with the looming threat of gazkhul trukking up the field and not knowing when he'll use his waghh w/ potw and a battle wagon for 29 inch assault is kinda stressful, not to mention his 15 lootas, i cant decide what to shoot at first. So what do YOU (The great people of dakka dakka) think? how should i go about killing this army?

Your friends list is Illegal there are 3 HQ's Zogwort isn't much to worry about. It seems from what your saying the Ork player is well not so good at Orks. With 30 Boyz I doubt he's lasting long. Im not seeing why your worried.

InquisitorVaron wrote:Your friends list is Illegal there are 3 HQ's Zogwort isn't much to worry about. It seems from what your saying the Ork player is well not so good at Orks. With 30 Boyz I doubt he's lasting long. Im not seeing why your worried.

I'm the person hes talking about here is my direct list of what I run.

HQ- Ghazghkull Thraka

HQ- Old Zogwort

Elites- 10 Nobz
-Waaagh Banner
-4 Power Klaws
- 2 Big Choppa’s
-Shoota/Rokkit Kombi Weapon
-Shoota/Skorcha Kombi Weapon
-All ‘Eavy Armor
-All Cybork Bodies
-Painboy
- Grot Orderly
- Ammo Grot

Elites: 12 Loota’s
- 1 Mek with Big Shoota

Elites: 11 Kommandos
- 2 Burnas
- Led by Boss Sninkrot

Troops- 30 Boyz
-All Sluggas and Choppas
-1 Rokkit Launcha’s
-Nob Leader
-Power Klaw
-Boss Pole
-2 Big Shoota

Troops- 30 Boyz
-All Sluggas and Choppas
-Nob Leader
-Power Klaw
-Boss Pole
-3 Big Shoota’s

Heavy Support- 1 Battle Wagon

- 1 Big Shoota
- Reinforced Ram
- Grot Riggers
- Red Paint Job

Fast Attack- 3 DeffKoptas
- All twin-linked rokkits

Listing your points like that is illegal, please change that. Total unit costs is fine but individual prices are not.

DarkHound wrote:Listing your points like that is illegal, please change that. Total unit costs is fine but individual prices are not.

Its fixed. I'm very sorry.

Old Zogwart is nothing to be scared up, Ghazghull is tho. He's only got one Battlewagon focus fire on it. Once it's out of the picture focus fire on one squad at a time till it's dead or running. Stick and move use your VoD and Turboboosting to get away from his mobs. I'd drop the Pariahs for more Destroyers.

General_Chaos wrote:Old Zogwart is nothing to be scared up, Ghazghull is tho. He's only got one Battlewagon focus fire on it. Once it's out of the picture focus fire on one squad at a time till it's dead or running. Stick and move use your VoD and Turboboosting to get away from his mobs. I'd drop the Pariahs for more Destroyers.

id agree with you, but i dont have more than 10 and its not really zogwart himself that worries, its that one darn ability of his to turn my deciever into a squig. A SQUIG!

He can't do that. It only works on Independent Characters, of which the Necrons have 1 (the Necron Lord).

DarkHound wrote:He can't do that. It only works on Independent Characters, of which the Necrons have 1 (the Necron Lord).

The deceiver counts as an independent character, which is who i DON'T want this to happen to.

Hear that? That's the sound of my head hitting the desk when I re-read the Necron codex. It takes the time to write a new rule "Character" so it can list it as an Independent Character while reminding us of the "Above All Others" rule which it spells out in the "Character" entry. This rule, mind you, is there to negate being an Independent Character. It goes without saying that the "Above All Others" rule is written out in its own entry, then again in each of the C'tan's "Character" rules. Thank Nurgle I didn't glance at "We'll Be Back." That book is the most deranged, convoluted piece of rubbish this side of...

Sad but true, im just waiting for the long awaited codex, back to the subject it really seems like my only option is just to keep him behind my monolith out of line of sight and pray he cant position himself properly and see me ad also be within 18" of course.