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I really like dark eldar and with the new models they're amazing. The problem is I want some models but I don't now how to make a list out of them. I want my army to Include: Incubi, reavers, cronos parisite engine, and scourges so Any ideas? *looks at thor665 and Dashofpepper*

I'm assuming you have read Dash's DE guide? Thats a good place to start anyway.

Without going in to too much detail, all of those units are usable in a competitive setting, but I'm not sure of all of them together are going to work. For example Incubi are nasty but kinda need something else in the list to draw fire off them like Beasts, but also mean you need to pack in anti tank firepower everywhere you can because you can't use Trueborn. Reavers and Scourges can be added to most types of lists, usually for anti tank firepower. Chronos are probably the least useful, I'm not really sure when you would take them because they aren't really that helpful if you plan on walking or have a mech list, and in a Portal list I would always take a Talos over a Chronos.

The cronos is intimidating and will draw away fire from the raiders while they get in there and kick stuff then it will provide support and throw pain tokens where needed.


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I don't know but heres a list.

HQ

Archon
soul stone
phantasm grenade launcher
shadow veil
husk blade

elites

5x incubus
blood stone
raider
flicker fields
total: 195

troops

5x kalabite warriors
blaster
venom
splinter cannon
total: 125

5x kalabite warriors
blaster
venom
splinter cannon
total: 125

5x kalabite warriors
blaster
venom
splinter cannon
total: 125

5x kalabite warriors
blaster
venom
splinter cannon
total: 125

Fast attack

10 scourges
4x dark lances
total: 280

heavy support

cronos parasite engine
soul vortex
total: 100

ravanger
flicker field
total: 115

ravanger
flicker field
total: 115

Total: 1465
what do I do with the rest of the points?

biohazardcake wrote:I really like dark eldar and with the new models they're amazing. The problem is I want some models but I don't now how to make a list out of them. I want my army to Include: Incubi, reavers, cronos parisite engine, and scourges so Any ideas? *looks at thor665 and Dashofpepper*

Going to be interesting with all those units. Incubi are Meq destroying CC monsters. Cronos also love killing meq. neither one of them can open up transports before CC and even in CC neither deos a particularly good job.

so you are going to need transport killing is job 1.

I would go for:
Haemi shattershard 65pts

5incubi venom double cannon 175
4trueblasters venom double cannon 173

8 wyches with haywires 1 hextrix with agonzier in a raider with FF 196
5warriors with a blaster in a FF raider 130
5warriors with a blaster in a FF raider 130

5 scourges with 2 heat lance 134
6 reavers with 2 heat lances 156

Talos with chain flails and twin linkes haywire blaster. 115
Cronos with spirit vortex 100
Ravager with FF 115

1293. Add more trueborn / warriors with blasters. I like more raiders than venoms as you NEED to take out transports and this list is gonna be light on AT. It only has 12 lances and 4 heat lances.

if you want an archon...add him in and you can put him with the incubi swapping out the venom for a raider.
maybe adding in another
5warriors with a blaster in a FF raider 130
4trueblasters venom double cannon 173
5 scourges with 2 heat lance 134
which brings you to 1730 and provides 6 more lances and 2 more heat lances for a total of 18 and 6. Still light but you might be able to make do.

pick a theme for your army. DE can do many. but i would decide how you want to destroy your enemy first. shooting or combat? from there, grab your troops and then a method of delevery. for example, i like to shoot more then combat, so i grab warriors. throw em on a raider with the standard gear and splinter racks, and now its a mobile fire platform. some people take smaller units on venoms, some go with the WWP. in either case, once youve decided on your troops and have a way to get them into the fray, grab an HQ that supports that role. most of the DE are however CC focused, wich obviously is great in a CC army, and in a shooting army can still provide a means of countering should you get charged. (or need to charge and break someone off an objective or something). finally, fill out the rest of the army. get units that support and make your chosen attack method stronger. i think the 3x ravagers with lances is almost standard fare in most lists, but the new talos kits make it tempting to throw one in. i find that writing an army list is like building a house. start with your foundation and theme, then expand and make it better with extra stuff.

Biohazardcake:

Your list isnt bad, but is pretty light on AT. But, if you like your list, split the scourges into two squads of 5, and take heat lances or haywire blasters instead of dark lances(they are still heavy so you can't move an shoot). That small change should keep the models you want, and still be decently competive.

Exergy's suggested list is pretty decent too as it incorperates the models you want and still looks fairly effectve. Though in the 1750 upgrade suggestions, I'd suggest another ravager before a second squad of scourges.

For list building i have only one theory that works for me.


IF YOU WANT A SHOOTY ARMY
- build your army and put one full assault unit for each 1000pts

IF YOU WANT AN ASSAULT ARMY
- build your army and put one full assault unit for each 500pts

If you look at both Dash Of Pepper's lists (Darklight Storm and Wych Cult) you'll see the pattern above being followed.

Its a good exercise at first. Later you'll be able to build a list around roles.

Mephistoles1 wrote:
Exergy's suggested list is pretty decent too as it incorperates the models you want and still looks fairly effectve. Though in the 1750 upgrade suggestions, I'd suggest another ravager before a second squad of scourges.

Yeah I had in there a Cronos, Talos and Ravager, thus no more HQ slots. Really sucks how much DE NEED ravagers, means you are hardly ever going to see the pain engines.

I like slice n' dice if you know what I mean along with some cool stuff to kill vehicles in the back or something.

biohazardcake wrote:I want my army to Include: Incubi, reavers, cronos parisite engine, and scourges so Any ideas? *looks at thor665 and Dashofpepper*

Why do you need my help then if you already know what you want?

Here you go:

HQ: 2x Haemonculi with webway portals.

Troop1: Wracks in a venom
Troop2: Wracks in a venom

Fast Attack1: Reavers or Scourges
Fast Attack2: Reavers or Scourges
Fast Attack3: Reavers or Scourges

Elite1: Incubi
Elite2: Incubi
Elite3: Incubi

Heavy1: Cronos
Heavy2: Cronos
Heavy3: Cronos

Go for it!