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At this point I am not sure loosing more infantry just to add more points on vehicles that often don't survive is the right thing to do. Then again, it only takes two turns of decent firing to make hurricane bolters well worth the points, one turn if your fighting squishies. The tricky part is determining whether those bolters are going to be more useful then your troops which are your only scoring unit, depending on the scenario of course.

The IC dread slowed his opponents advance. Its a good tactic for shooting armies. they are forced to deal with the threat in front of them. Drop Pods or anything fast is the same. You don't want Nob bikers al of sudden speeding to get behind you . One nasty unit loose can stop a forward advance dead. Git did this with the IC (vs. deffdread.)

We could of put a single SR on each flank but having 2 moving close together is like an " alpha" strike, hopefully you kill enough to keep moving. Need to keep tech marines in them to repair them from going immobile.

Git did manage to use his drop pods to block or provide cover at times for both of us.

As both my SR were fully operational another turn would be used to sweep the table edge. Still I must admit that in reality the SR survived by bad dice rolling not by any tactic I came up with. All the other games only re-enforced this most explosively.

@ SL, You used the 4 blood missiles in the game?

have you thought of using Maxmini's dragonfly wings on your jump packs GitSplitta?
p.s. did you send the package?


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I think I'l count my captain as shrike - should I change the legs to different ones??? (either sanguinary guard ones or regular assault marine ones).

Solar_lion wrote:The IC dread slowed his opponents advance. Its a good tactic for shooting armies. they are forced to deal with the threat in front of them. Drop Pods or anything fast is the same. You don't want Nob bikers al of sudden speeding to get behind you . One nasty unit loose can stop a forward advance dead. Git did this with the IC (vs. deffdread.)

We could of put a single SR on each flank but having 2 moving close together is like an " alpha" strike, hopefully you kill enough to keep moving. Need to keep tech marines in them to repair them from going immobile.

Git did manage to use his drop pods to block or provide cover at times for both of us.

As both my SR were fully operational another turn would be used to sweep the table edge. Still I must admit that in reality the SR survived by bad dice rolling not by any tactic I came up with. All the other games only re-enforced this most explosively.

I can follow the reasoning, but playing more turns you could perfectly have contested with the stormravens and taken both of his objectives - I like to think big in tourneys since you need to massacre your opponent to go up in the ranking . I definitely think keeping the two stormravens together was a good plan, it made for a massive threat. Right now, it just feels like the ironclad was sacrificed without allowing him to cause some havoc, which is a bit of a shame. Still, I wasn't there, I'm sure you guys had good reasons to play how you did!

Truely it can be a sacrifice.. tho getting him to not scatter would be helpful in making him more useful. If he can't get into CC or HF range, you try to limit his exposure. They will either try to take him at range or move around him ( more time) or move something that can deal with him in that direction. Either way if his faith in the Emperor is great enough then he has nothing to worry about! ; )

Still he's got to get in to CC to really be effective ( tying up units, taking out heavy's ect) He's git's " touchy feely " unit.

PS... remembering to deploy him also helps.!

The Dreads and drop pods garnered a vast amount of painting attention. They look even better in person!


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Miss Dee wrote:@ SL, You used the 4 blood missiles in the game?

Not in this game.. I used alot in the last one against the orks as we used the SR as gun platforms trying to takeout as many heavys as possible as they were advancing. Missiles are my only long range option. Once they got close enough I cut loose, but unfortunately we didn't take out enough to make a serious run for the objectives and had to fight a battle of attrition ( Objectives, We don't need no stinkin objectives).

I occasionally get asked to post pics of the entire army (not just the Adepticon stuff) and since I've been laid out by this cold for the last several days (can't focus well enough to paint), I thought I'd take a group shot. Here are my current Mantis Warriors... only the repainted models. Comes out to 2417 points, and there are more-or-less invisible upgrades I could give to push it a bit higher. The laugh is it's all troops and elites & once I add a MoTF, will be all legal to field. Granted with no assault troops or heavies it would get slaughtered... but I *could* field all but the extra HQs.


HQ:
Chapter Master (Kantor counts-as)
Libby w/ jump pack
Captain w/jump pack & relic blade (graven's vanguard)

Elite:
8 sternguard w/ mixed weaponry
Venerable dread
Iron Clad dread
2 standard dreads (assault cannon & TL LC)

Troops:
10 scout snipers w/ heavy bolter & Telion
10 scout snipers w/ heavy bolter & PF srg
10 marines w/ plas & hvy plas (Inquisitional squad)
5 marines w/ las/plas razorback
5 marines w/ las/plas razorback

Operational Support:
3 drop pods

I think the Mantis Warriors will probably be between 5000 & 6000 points before I'm "done", this encompasses two different armies and either side of their penitential crusade.

How do you succeed with the sniper scouts. HAlf the time they on't hit anything...and very rarely kill much more than one or two members of the squad...

I think their farely good at holding objectives though, give em camo cloaks and put em in terrain. Tough to kill

whalemusic360 wrote:... using RS FW pads as basing makes me sad, I've always thought a RS force would be cool.

It makes me sad too. Though I can always repay Gits by putting Mantis bits on my bases or kill markings on the Angstrom vets I guess. Hmmm now there's an idea...

The arm(y/ies) are coming together nicely, I'm certainly looking forward to seeing all four Warden forces together in a couple of weeks time

The sniper scouts are useful against certain armies... demons and nids as the can discount target toughness. Telion is good for sniping nobs out of foot boyz squads. Generally speaking, I don't find scouts particularly effective, but they're fundamental to my "late" army's fluff so I have to try and work them in. I have a theory on using a different configuration to work in with some of my other ideas, but that will have to wait for a lot more modeling and painting to try out.

As to using broken scorpion bits on my bases... not my idea, team thought it would be fluffy for our Badab War rebels presentation... and I agree, it is. Most of my bits will be painted as space sharks though.

Gitsplitta wrote:
10 marines w/ plas & hvy plas (Inquisitional squad)

I thought at one time you were considering an rhino or some transport for these guys _ I suggest a SR or LR.

Hope you feel better

SL


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Gitsplitta wrote:As to using broken scorpion bits on my bases... not my idea, team thought it would be fluffy for our Badab War rebels presentation... and I agree, it is. Most of my bits will be painted as space sharks though.

As mine will be the " Minotaurs" and maybe an occasional Fire Hawk. It all based on the fluff - like our army liists.

Ithink Ice is doing them All!!

You might consider a small 5 man scout squad in a LS Storm. They can be good at late contesting or tying up small heavy weapon squads.

LS storm is good as 2ccw scouts can charge from it.. and if they win combat then the enemy is leadership 2. great for necrons hahahahaha

DarthLakey wrote:LS storm is good as 2ccw scouts can charge from it.. and if they win combat then the enemy is leadership 2. great for necrons hahahahaha

They do have to win that combat first....not quite so hahahaha
TBH, scouts arn't quite as good now they've lost the BS, although I'm gonna use that loitering idea! sounds good!

Scouts in a storm rock the casbah. Relatively cheap and a darn sight more versatile that a vanilla tac squad imho.

Wow your army all together looks cool, i tip my hat to you sir

Solar_lion wrote:I thought at one time you were considering an rhino or some transport for these guys _ I suggest a SR or LR

I will be making them a special inquisitional transport (rhino), just haven't had the time yet.

I'm back in the saddle again... sort of. Spent the early morning painting and made decent progress on the tacticals. Got many of the fiddly little details done, added some color to the bionics, changed the combat & knife blade color a couple of times until I was happy, fixed some sloppy areas, etc. Think just the eyes, campaign studs and shoulder badges to do and I'll call them done.

Tired though, going to take a nap. After a week of fighting this bug I have NO stamina. Did manage to make omelette's for the kids for breakfast though... my fatherly duty and all that. More later when I have something to show (or need moral support). My goal is to finish the troops today and be well on my way with the MoTF build by bed time... which at this rate will be about 6 PM.

Damn Gitz. Your army has come along way. I've enjoyed watching it come along. The way you use old and new models really give it a unique and personalized look. As they say at McDonalds "I'm Lovin' it!"

Good luck on the painting and building bud, Don't wear yourself just to get to Adepticon, you still have to play there as well!

I finished the tac squads. I'll let the varnish dry overnight, then put some gloss on the eyes and shrubbery on the bases & be done first thing tomorrow morning. If someone would be so kind as to bump the thread between now and then I'd appreciate it. Expect eye-candy in the morning!

Gits

Errr......clever something to pretend like I'm not just bumping.












Crap, there on to me.

whalemusic360 wrote:
Crap, there on to me.

No there not..

it's a trap... get an axe!

I can barely believe you've nearly done it Gits, being ill and with such a time limit. Looking forward to seeing your work displayed

Solar_lion wrote:

whalemusic360 wrote:
Crap, there on to me.

No there not..

it's a trap... get an axe!

They're*

GRAMMAR NAZI STRIKES AGAIN!! sorry, i seem to have facism on the brain since the extended response on friday, a long history essay written in 2 hours and mine was on the SS-Gestapo.
Anyway, can't wait for the pics gits!!

Looking forward to those tac squad pics!

Here 'tis. Kind of a wonky photograph but it's what I've got at the moment.

Look great all painted up! I particularly like the barricade guy, did you reposition him/the wall?

Thanks! Couldn't have done it without your help!

Just a bit... a few of the guys had bits fall off and he was one of them, so I cut his hand off at the wrist and repositioned it so it looked like he was bracing himself on the wall. Then I added the battle damage for effect.