SPARTAN vs. Space Marine

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**snake**

A UNSC Spartan and a Space Marine get into single hand to hand combat. No weapons.
Who do you think wins? Why??

**Kaskrin123**

Spartan because he is badass

**Chaos Lord Gir**

Marine. Because, well, because he has ALOT the Spartan doesn't.

Marine is stronger, can spit acid, his armour is just insane, reflexes are quicker, hell what if the Marine is a Psyker?

Then we have the guys in the Terminator Armour. Lets see Master Chief crack that with his bare fists.

**gaovinni**

A space marine. There is no contest.

**Monster Rain**

Gotta give it to the Space Marine on this one.

Of course, a Jedi would own both of them at once.

**Grey Templar**

the Sparten simply has his armor.

it might be impressive, but even giving it massive leeway and saying its the equal of the SMs PA wouldn't help him.

the Marine would just rip the Sparten apart at the seams assuming he couldn't actually crack the plates.

the sparten wouldn't be able to do anything in return and it would just be a matter of time untill his armor gave way.

**gaovinni**

Monster Rain wrote:Gotta give it to the Space Marine on this one.

Of course, a Jedi would own both of them at once.

But a Jedi Ninja would be invincible.

**djphranq**

gaovinni wrote:
Monster Rain wrote:Gotta give it to the Space Marine on this one.

Of course, a Jedi would own both of them at once.

But a Jedi Ninja would be invincible.

Lets not forget Jedi Ninja Pirates w/ Dark lances, Relentless, and FNP

**Commisar Wolfie**

Or a jedi ninja pirate and down go all the chaos gods

**Grey Templar**

its debatable if a Jedi could beat a Librarian.

the Jedi would likely be forced to focus all his strength on defending himself from psychic abilities(assuming a deamon doesn't eat his brain. we assume the Force=psychic powers)

**Asherian Command**

Jedi Space Marine + Pyschic shielding plus ninja skills is uber

**G00fySmiley**

to quote Duke Nukem in duke nukem forever when given the option to wear armor (which looked like UNCS spartan armor) "armor's for pussies"

but in actuality if you read the halo books they go through some very rigerous genetic enhancments and training as well It is hard to say for certain, but i think if they met it wouldn't be a fight I think they'd like eachother then do try to squish some xenos

**Small, Far Away**

The Marine could punch the Spartan's head off in a single punch.

I don't want to thing what a BA, GK or Space Wolf would do.

**Grey Templar**

regardless, the sparten isn't going to be the equal of the space marine as the Marine's augmentations are much more rigorous.

In real life they would probably team up though. unless the UNSC foolishly decided to resist.

**gaovinni**

Small, Far Away wrote:The Marine could punch the Spartan's head off in a single punch.

I don't want to thing what a BA, GK or Space Wolf would do.

The GK would kill the spartan and rub the blood all over himself for extra protection.

**Jimsolo**

I'm going to give it to the Space Marine. Every cool thing Master Chief does, Space Marines can also do. And when Master Chief does it, everyone is all shocked and impressed. If a Marine does it, everyone's like 'So? That's what they were designed to do.'

And, a Space Marine would have gunned that stupid 'helper bot' down from the word go.

**Grey Templar**

its funny,

most Sci-fi has incidences of Robots turning on people.

40k has the interesting perspective of having already had robots turn on them and as such have basically banned them. only having the most basic AI systems that rely on organic componants.

the only other sci-fi i know of which had this happen is Command and Conquor Tiberium Wars.

**Phototoxin**

Marine... the USMC Spartan moves slower and basically isn't an Angel of Death..

**Void__Dragon**

Spartans are confirmed to have about 20 millisecond reaction-time, and being capable of pressing about two tons above their heads. While certainly far beyond the limits of a normal man, I have heard of instances of Space Marines lifting rhinos, which are 30 ton transports. Allegedly this was in the Ultramarines Omnibus, but I myself have not read it, only been told of this. So the Marines are definitely stronger. As for speed, don't know, I have heard of Inquisitors being able to deflect bolter shells with a power sword, which takes incredible reaction-time, so if Marines have similar, I guess they could be better too.

In terms of armour, Space Marines, no contest.

**Grey Templar**

they can't lift the whole rhino above their heads, but they could certaintly lift up one end to see what was under it.

**Void__Dragon**

Even so, that is pretty impressive, not going to do the math equation to see how impressive, but better than what the Spartan has.

**shadeyaces**

Space marine would win.

**Vires`**

Space Marine,they're the descendants of the God Emperor of Mankind?

**Revenent Reiko**

Grey Templar wrote:they can't lift the whole rhino above their heads, but they could certaintly lift up one end to see what was under it.

Learchus does lift the back end of a bulk transport truck in the Ultra Omnibus, but still not a Rhino.

On Topic,
The SM wins hands down.

**AlmightyWalrus**

As ever in response to this question: The Astartes, hands down. As soon as someone goes "But Master Chief could totally win!" all that happens is that us 40k fanboys remind the Halo fanboys that if we're comparing "special characters" then Mephiston, Calgar, Lysander and Draigo start appearing and nullifies any slim chance of winning.

**themocaw**

snake wrote:A UNSC Spartan and a Space Marine get into single hand to hand combat. No weapons.
Who do you think wins?

The audience.

**Nerivant**

Grey Templar wrote:
40k has the interesting perspective of having already had robots turn on them and as such have basically banned them. only having the most basic AI systems that rely on organic componants.

CoughcoughButlerianJihadcoughDunecoughcough.

A Space Marine could break a SPARTAN in half.

**Psienesis**

Somewhat balancing the equation (ok, not really) both Bungie and GW have a terrible habit of retconning or altering the fluff of their characters, or displaying it very, very poorly once in-game.

**zxwarrior**

Well you all need to see that spartans are actualy faster and have a personal shield. That can be hit by a small nuclear explosion and still be working if set to max. Master never does that because when he does set it that high the shield would make hitting and grabbing things impossible because it causes him to have no friction. Space marine has strength and armor but is slightly slower and has a blind spot. which is his back. Spartans don't have this problem. Also the old saying that "a suit of armor is olny as good as its weakest point" holds great truth in this fight. both have lightly armored joints. But the spartan has a shield to help deflect hits to these regions for a time before it shuts down.

**Samus_aran115**

The spartan, because space marines don't exist. They're made-up.