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I enjoy playing Warhammer 40k and try to play a game with whoever, whenever. I just like the experience and the challenge. I am really competitive but I could care less if I win a match. I am pretty sure everyone on this forum has run into bad players before. Tell me some of your pet peeves or stories of someone freaking out.

My main problem is playing with someone who can't be a good sport. Constantly complaining when they are losing or just lost the really expensive HQ in the first turn. You know what im talking about. When people come to the group I play in and act like that, no one wants to match up with them. No one wants to hear how OP this is non-stop. It gets old and it's a game for fun.

Another huge problem I run into is cheating. I've only had this happen several times but it makes me livid pissed. Typically the people who do this are the cry babies, because they can't stand to lose. Going over their points or even adding upgrades to their squad that don't exist. I don't know every army perfectly but when I spot this, its game over.

Cheating, sore losing and generally poor social skills led me to playing with my mates, but now even they won't play me :(




Only messing, I only play with mates nowadays, we just keep playing until only one model is left on the board.

Your opponent whining about his "really bad luck" when they are winning anyway or an opponent that doesnt acknowledge there opponent has done a good job beating them and blame it on how they weren't really paying attention so made lots of mistakes they wouldn't normally, as they can't be beaten unless they make a mistake.

Obviously the standard ones apply, not being jerk, being comlpetely ignorant of rules, obvious netlisting/bandwagoning, cheating, etc.

However a couple things that always annoy me.

When playing Sieze Ground, placing objectives as impossible for the other player to nab as possible. That to me isn't really part of the game strategy, rather it's fiddling with the preconditions. I generally put my objectives somewhere defensible but also obtainable. I'm not going to sit the two or three I get to place exactly 12" from my table edge, I'm going to try and scatter them evenly across the board. I've lost more than one game to an opponent who did not return the favor. Perhaps naieve on my part, but still a pet peeve.

Another is when opponents insist on playing something that just about everyone else will agree is wrong or that an errata changed and we've got copies of it present. Had an opponent once who insisted that every SM book updated all others so his BA drop pods (back in 2008) got the Drop Pod Assault rule to come in turn 1 and that his Land Raiders got the new PotMS despite the judge ruling against him.


Also, side conversations. A little bit of that is fine, but if you spend more time talking to other people than playing the game, it's going to honk me off.

Toastedandy wrote:Cheating, sore losing and generally poor social skills led me to playing with my mates, but now even they won't play me :(




Only messing, I only play with mates nowadays, we just keep playing until only one model is left on the board.

Yeah I have the most fun playing with my close friends because no one really cares. No one cries and we play are game the same way too. Annihilation and unlimited turn just for fun. Plus when someone has a horrible roll or gets wiped on turn 2 we all just laugh and shrug it off.

I've got a couple of minor ones. First, I hate it when an opponent doesn't even know the basics of his force. All your marines have ws 4 bs 4, man. Please, know how strong your bolters are author looking it up.

The second is an opponent who keeps breaking small rules. He forgets to move done of his units before shooting and assaulting, doesn't roll morale after being shot, etc. Its easy to remind him, and letting him move a unit in the corner that really won't make a difference this turn anyway is no big deal, but c'mon,, pay attention.

This thread's always a good one. I dislike codex whiners. You know: "Oh noes, the new Codex X is out. X is so outrageous. It will destroy the solid and well thought out balance that 40k has had since PHIL KELLY (it's always Phil Kelly) singlehandedly instilled in the game by writing Codex WhateverImPlaying." With a repeat of the exact same complaints 4 months from then when the next codex is released, unless its one they play, in which case it's the most underpowered crippled thing in existence.

Tyranids get a pass. While I've won games with Nids, and I see potential for good builds, they still got a kick in the crotch with this one.

Let me explain further. I've been given unending amounts of gak about my GK army, since the moment their codex dropped. It got worse when I won my first two games with them out of the gate just doing what DH (shoot, back up, repeat, charge!) did, only better. I built a list combining all the "new" stuff in the codex, Interceptors, Paladins, a Dreadknight, and Mordrak with a Librarian. Looking back on it, it was pretty haphazard, but I more so wanted to see how each unit performed in a vacuum before beginning to play them off each other. He was playing an AP2 spam Space Wolf list with another friend of mine as a teammate. Needless to say, he moped up my army really well, but he had the gall to bitch and moan about it the entire time. "Mordrak doesn't scatter when he deep strikes, and he can bring terminators with him? Thats outrageous." Kills most of them with plasma, and manages to take the rest of out bolter fire. "Shunting how far?!?!" Wipes them off the table with Long Fangs. This continues through most of the game. His teammate was largely silent through this, detecting the irritation that I was feeling at the time.

At the end of it, I hardly put a dent in his army, and he massacred me. Tailoring or no, and lack of optimization or not on my part, I calmly asked him where the cheese was in the army, and pointed to each unit, now removed from the table, and asked him if that was the overpowered unit that singlehandedly wiped out his army, or perhaps if it was another one. He got very quiet for the rest of the night, but he's stopped his moaning. We seldom play 40k with him anymore, though the last time we did play a few weeks ago it was quite civil.

People who don't understand how long it takes to play a game and try to get a 2500 pt match in an hour. Then they pack up and leave in that 1 hour.

Models that are just legs and torsos, especially when they can't keep track of what they have on each model.

-cgmckenzie

People who are enraged by their opponent trying to win.

I've never played a "pick up" game. Only against my close friends. So, a lot of the things I generally see in these threads I haven't come across. We're generally reasonable people.

I don't like list-taylering, though. When we play campaign games, you know who you play each time, so you can make your list accordingly. A few times, I've asked everyone to make a single, all-comers list for a given round. And since it's a campaign, you are definitely playing to win since you don't want to let your team down.

I have found the games where you had to make an all-comers list (more balanced) to be much more enjoyable.

Otherwise, I'm pretty lucky with my 40k group.

When they beat me.

People who complain about "cheese" and powerful units, especially in a competitive environment. When I'm playing to win, not necessarily for fun, I'm going to use the best units my army has to offer. No, I'm not going to make a more well-balanced force that's ultimately easier to take down just because you don't have a counter to my uber-squad.

My biggest peeve is sore losers. There's one buddy of mine (who doesn't play anymore) who would know the outcome of the game by turn 2. When I take down his big heavy unit on turn 1, or turn 2 goes past without him getting a wound off due to poor luck, he's instantly lost the entire game. Never mind the fact that there's 3 turns left to play, with a possible 2 more.

People that confuse 'annoying' with 'overpowered'. I distinctly remember a SW player calling cheese because he charged some Dire Avengers with Terminators and found out they all got a 5++ because of the shimmershield and Defend taking away an attack. Apparently he said that they're just supposed to die because they're Eldar or some stupid gak like that.

most of what has been said...

add in the "my list only has a weakness to (inseert whatever army they played against) " or "thier super competative ork shooting list (lawl) just destroyed my "fluffy" tournament list that i pulled off the internet" nevermind that the list is a spam list and for hypercompetative tournament play they just don't knwo how to use it

... then there are the take 30 minuetes to finish their movement, 30 min to decidee who to shoot what and then 15 min to decide if you're gonna assault

The usual irks: People that think that they know everything about the rules and call you out on every misstep you make (even when you've only played the game a few times, and especially when they get all high and mighty when you quiz them about why there's a need for such niggling rules anyhow). A huge irk is when one of my regular opponents feels he has to have a cigarette at least once every game turn, and always when he's needed-ie he tends to not do it so much when its one on one, but its a constant when there's more players.....oh and he owes me money...so I'm not to fond of him right now. When they (usually the younger ones) start whining about how I can't use x model because its converted, despite making it quite clear before a game what everything is (and I usually leave the wierder things to games against mates btw). The generic taking forever to set up and then proceeding to either spend the rest of the game taking ages to do anything, or complaining that my own turns are taking too long (which seeing as I usually just shoot off at whatever thing's closest and they're the one's roling all the saving throws...). Playing broken armies in non competive enviroments for whatever reason-a semi regular opponent's reason is that in the old rules when he made his army up the rules weren't broken....uhuh...but you have two of every model and six armies to choose from but you always go for that loadout... Complaining that my models are too dirty mid match for no apparent reason (when theirs are covered gold decals and not a bit of mud in sight)....especially when they're not even the ones are playing me. ¬¬

Rant, rave, etc....

....And for god's sake who gives a hell if I use circular bases when they're meant to be square? That's all I have and I told you that when I was building the bloody things. ...This was meant to be a friendly game, and well...you weren't really my friend in the first place. ^^

Mr. Self Destruct wrote:People that confuse 'annoying' with 'overpowered'. I distinctly remember a SW player calling cheese because he charged some Dire Avengers with Terminators and found out they all got a 5++ because of the shimmershield and Defend taking away an attack. Apparently he said that they're just supposed to die because they're Eldar or some stupid gak like that.

Wow, That person REALLY needs to think before he talks.

1: Opponent saying 'Basilisk skill'.
2: Complaining that GKs are underpowered because there aren't as many models on their field as on mine.
3: Accusing me of cheating for placing a model in a slightly different position after it falls over, then trying to move an infantry unit about 8".

Whining. Unbelievable whining.

"I HAVE ROLLED NOTHING BUT ONES" followed by fist hitting board knocking models down.

And this is from people over 18 y/o. Seriously, I cannot believe the childishness this hobby can bring out of some people.
(Though to be fair, it does seem that such people were already socially awkward or socially unaware to begin with)

1. A bad sport (cheating, gloating, whining, visibly urging my dice to be bad, etc.....)
2. An opponent who complains a lot about bad dice. I can understand a comment or two about your bad dice if they're really bad. Just dont take it too far.
3. An opponent who needs to look up more than 10% of the rules during the game. If they're obviously new, then of course, this doesnt apply to them. But if you've had your army for a while, you should know the rules.
4. (friendly games only) When I tell an opponent that I have very little knowledge of a particular codex or unit and they dont tell me everything it does, and later in the game, he/she takes advantage of my lack of knowledge. In a tourney, fine, I shouldve been prepared. But in a friendly game thats just a jerk move.

I hate people who give up. If I assault with a much stronger unit, my opponent will just remove all his models saying that there is no way they could survive. I feel like he is giving up, and robbing me of the satisfaction of a solid kill point.

But I would say that a pet peeve of his might be that if he assaults me with a massively overwhelming force, and lets say I have only 2 guys left, I will make him roll all the wounds, and then take my saves for each one, praying for a miracle.

So I guess I am just as guilty.

I play with good friends mostly, and don't really have problems with them, gameplay-wise. What does FRUSTRATE the feth outta me is when ever his turn is over he go's to look at the bits bin, which is in another room at the other side of the store we play at. I have to go collect him after movement because I don't want him to think I am cheating with my shooting.

My pet peeve. Personal Hygene. Wash before you come out into public to play games in an enclosed space.
Cheaters, these WAAC jacknoggins greatly annoy me.

daedalus wrote:I dislike codex whiners.

Tyranids get a pass.

Let me explain further. I've been given unending amounts of gak about my GK army, since the moment their codex dropped.

Sounds like you're largely exposed to people-of-dubious-parentage, if that's the case. I've played against GK - in fact, my best friend loves them, so I play against them a lot. Grey Knights gained some cool abilities, varied units, and some gorgeous, brand new sculpts when their new Codex came out. To my mind, that's what every 40k Codex release should be about. Jokes about them drinking nun blood and carving their names on the hearts of Chaos Gods aside, they're a nice army with scope for imaginative builds. I think it's a bit hypocritical, though, to be judgemental of people who are unhappy when their Codex doesn't include either cool abilities, varied units, or gorgeous, brand new sculpts - especially when you explicitly say you don't mind Tyranid players being unhappy about the state of their Codex. Speaking as a Sisters of Battle/Witch Hunters player, all GW had to do to silence all of my complaints was give me one new model to collect - even if it was just legalising Forge World's Repressors, to give me a reason to replace all of my Rhinos and keep me busy for a while.

My pet peeves with players are few. The biggest is probably people who refuse to leave the gaming table when they smoke. Second biggest would be folks who think that rolling the dice is an act of artillery bombardment in its own right - you just need to roll, you don't need to hurl them - which goes double for folks who actually move/topple models when they do so. Folks who get shirty, obnoxious and/or bitchy when I roll well - I always make an effort to be enthusiastic about my opponent's successes, because to me enjoying the battle honestly is more important than winning. That's about it. I don't find over-enthusiastic kids annoying - if they want to thrust their Wolf Lord in my face and spend ten minutes telling me how they painted it, I'm not going to shoot them down over it - the hobby needs new blood. I don't find folks who need help with the rules annoying - much in the same way as I'm understanding of Learner Drivers - everybody was like that once.

purplefood wrote:When they beat me.

This. Those damn people, who do they think they are?

AustonT wrote:My pet peeve. Personal Hygene. Wash before you come out into public to play games in an enclosed space.

This, holy sweet mother of all that is awesome and fluffy, this. I can deal with bad players who whine, cheat, and are generally obnoxious because I call things as I see them and don't give a about hurting my opponent's feelings if they're detracting from a positive game experience.

But a smelly player...Emperor protect them from my deodorant infused wrath. Gamers that have poor hygiene are an embarassment to the whole gaming community and only serve to perpetuate a stereotype most of us work very hard to dispel, only to have it ruined by some shmuck who can't figure out a shower handle or a stick of deodorant.

I only wish game stores would remove smelly/filthy/unkempt individuals. That'd give them a wake up call.

*sigh*

Connor McKane wrote:I hate people who give up. If I assault with a much stronger unit, my opponent will just remove all his models saying that there is no way they could survive. I feel like he is giving up, and robbing me of the satisfaction of a solid kill point.

This. But also the opposite when someone goes, just take the damn models off the board, there's no way you'll live.

Blacksails wrote:
I only wish game stores would remove smelly/filthy/unkempt individuals. That'd give them a wake up call.

*sigh*

But then the stores would only have like 2 customers.

nectarprime wrote:

Blacksails wrote:
I only wish game stores would remove smelly/filthy/unkempt individuals. That'd give them a wake up call.

*sigh*

But then the stores would only have like 2 customers.

Hahaha, I thought about that too, but then again, GW is like cocaine. They'd get kicked out then realize if they showered they could come back. Might work.

Stalling in tournaments. I very rarely finish games at tournaments, and often it has to do with that guy just moves his tank 12 inches through difficult ter...wait, no, tank shocks this squad in cov...wait, no...drives 12 towa...wait, no...pops smoke. That gak gets old.

While I'm at it again, people who take things that aren't optimal in their book and cry if you don't do the same.
I mean, I understand there's fun units but if you want to take 30 Mandrakes then shut the feth up.