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Jubear wrote:Super fluffy palyers that wanna tell you all about there custom SM chapter

Why? I mean, it is part of the hobby, making your own stuff.

Jubear wrote:or cry if you put a decent list down in front of them.

This I agree with.

-Loki- wrote:

Jubear wrote:Super fluffy palyers that wanna tell you all about there custom SM chapter

Why? I mean, it is part of the hobby, making your own stuff.

It sure is. Just don't be so sure that everybody wants to hear about it.

In my experience, the people that write entire tracts about their custom chapter (and what they have done since the Heresy...and why they are so awesome) are completely oblivious to the subtle hints that the unfortunate victim JUST DON'T CARE.

Steelmage - oh god, the success pick-er uppe-rs, hate them. Same guy as was trying to claim a pivot (which he expressly stated as such) mean 4+ to hit in close combat.

People who model for advantage. Hate them. Cool model - yes ,fair enough. When done expressly to gain an advantage? Sorry, no.

Steelmage99 wrote:

-Loki- wrote:

Jubear wrote:Super fluffy palyers that wanna tell you all about there custom SM chapter

Why? I mean, it is part of the hobby, making your own stuff.

It sure is. Just don't be so sure that everybody wants to hear about it.

In my experience, the people that write entire tracts about their custom chapter (and what they have done since the Heresy...and why they are so awesome) are completely oblivious to the subtle hints that the unfortunate victim JUST DON'T CARE.

A thousand times this. It may be interesting for a while, but after an hour when they get onto the part where they stole a battle barge from the Black Templars and are thus allied with the Tau while fleeing the Templars but still allied with the Imperium you just want them to stop and get on with the game.

If someone asks what chapter you play, just say it's a custom one and the name. If they want to know more they'll ask.

nosferatu1001 wrote:Steelmage - oh god, the success pick-er uppe-rs, hate them. Same guy as was trying to claim a pivot (which he expressly stated as such) mean 4+ to hit in close combat.

People who model for advantage. Hate them. Cool model - yes ,fair enough. When done expressly to gain an advantage? Sorry, no.

90% of the time I clear failures first but gakky rolls or needing I tend to pick out successes because there's a lot fewer of them. I know your frustration otherwise though.

That's fair enough - when its Orks, or my psycannons, then pulling successes can make more sense. Just at least give the opponent time to *see* that youre pulling successes, and not failures. The amount of time it saves is negligible compared to other parts of the game (like target priority) compared to the impression it gives to the opponent.

How aboout the ones who say you have never faced a real list, thiat list would not last 2 turns agaist a real list and then whont sit down and play your list

Or the ones that say they've never faced a real list, then pull out a tournament standard army and blast you from afar.

I got a new one: This only applies to Vassal and is why I will be working every shift I can get for the next month so I can pay off my truck and drive to the FLGS.

People who make maps, but don't mark what blocks LOS, and never bring it up until your shooting phase.

I'm a fairly new 40k player and i laugh when my army gets smacked.

My friends crying "cheese' or "OP" or "nube unit/list" or "spam" or calling ANYTHING "unstoppable" in a none too serious game, especially when that something is very stoppable if dealt with correctly. Cheating also, like moving the extra inch to get into melee or shooting range and then defending it as a fair 6" move, when it clearly goes past the tape measure moments before. Not having a army list is also very annoying, firstly because on the spot counting normally done by me isn't always accurate, and that person generaly says "ow ya well, they're like 450 points" no, there is no "like", there is only "is" and "isnt" 450 points. This also tends to lead to them adding in a few extra upgrades which I know they do but its to long to count it all out myself. Other then that, ya it's ok, except when none of the rules for melee are remembered by the player who is a melee oriented army yup, longest turns the whole game.

Ineed2bucks wrote:My friends crying "cheese' or "OP" or "nube unit/list" or "spam" or calling ANYTHING "unstoppable" in a none too serious game, especially when that something is very stoppable if dealt with correctly. Cheating also, like moving the extra inch to get into melee or shooting range and then defending it as a fair 6" move, when it clearly goes past the tape measure moments before. Not having a army list is also very annoying, firstly because on the spot counting normally done by me isn't always accurate, and that person generaly says "ow ya well, they're like 450 points" no, there is no "like", there is only "is" and "isnt" 450 points. This also tends to lead to them adding in a few extra upgrades which I know they do but its to long to count it all out myself. Other then that, ya it's ok, except when none of the rules for melee are remembered by the player who is a melee oriented army yup, longest turns the whole game.

Only one time did I ever play against someone who didn't have a list out of good faith, he used 2800 points against an 1850 point army (friend calced out the points after the game, since this enemy was a known cheat. He said I should be pissed, I didn't care one way or the other).

The moral of this story is No list no Play. Just like with Football players who sleep in class, they no pass, they no play. Start enforcing it.

But footballers who sleep in class get Bs.

Also, No Codex, No Play.

The guy who looks like he's about to throw a model across the room any time a die roll doesn't go his way.

Maenus_Rajhana wrote:The guy who looks like he's about to throw a model across the room any time a die roll doesn't go his way.

I look that way all the time. I need a higher Fiber Diet.

People who go apeshit because they're losing, and people who bake their dice. Their is a guy in my club who was actually using weighted dice!!!

nosferatu1001 wrote:People who model for advantage. Hate them. Cool model - yes ,fair enough. When done expressly to gain an advantage? Sorry, no.

Isn't mfa a bit of a two edged sword? I mean i agree with you but the few times I have played against gratuitously modeled units its usually worked in my favor, for example a guy at my local has a Sentinel modeled walking over a wall and it has a good half inch extra height on it but it just make it easier for my dev squad to take it out with krak missile.

My personal pet peeve, and i realize i may cop some flak for this, is melta spam. OH MY GOD I HATE MELTA SPAM!! Way to take the fun out of the game. A Melta gun here or there i don't mind but when every squad has an ing melta weapon of some description it just gets boring. Now i can see the appeal in having mega amounts of meltas in games against those with lots of vehicles, the likes of blood angels, GK, and Eldar. I've stopped using tanks in most games and instead just field an extra dev squad. "Oh you killed 1 marine with a melta gun? Congratulations, now have a lascannon blast to the face."

I will admit, there is a meltabomb in every unit of my army, simply because every army I face seems to have a Land Raider that's a bit too friendly.

My favorite player complaint came not during one of my games, but instead the game of a friend. My friend is putting his fairly well painted army out on the table and his opponent starts to rant bloody murder than his bases aren't flocked and how terrible it makes everything look. Opponent then proceeds to start pulling out minis with fully flocked bases that look like they have been painted by an insane 3 year old. We just laughed at the guy for half an hour for complaining about how awful my friend's well painted, but unflocked base figures looked and his own completely looked like total crap.

I just don't get the kinds of things people obsess about in that kind of context.

I have a good friend who plays IG and has played IG for years. He also plays halflings in Bloodbowl. Unfortunately he plays the not so great performers and then complains constantly when they perform as designed. He complains his IG don't get saves against most weapons, and that their WS, BS, S and T are only 3. He complains that his halflings can't hurt an opponent without ganging up on them and how my dwarves are strong enough to effectively over power his halflings one on one and it just goes on and on. It gets tiresome, but he is a good friend and is someone who is *always* ready to play a game of 40k every time. It is just strange...hahahaha

Skriker

Less of a pet peeve more an annoyance and point of bad taste:

An official GW store opened about 20 minutes from my house and on the second weekend it was open we went in to pick some things up and scope the players. There was a kid there, IG player, whose Leman Russes were made out of CARDBOARD, and his CCS was fething paper cutouts on bottle caps. Worst of all, he had only a single squad of actual models, and the other 30+ infantry were horribly cast silicon versions of the real models.

He went out to get them out of his car and they were limp and saggy from the heat. It was embarassing for anyone standing nearby.

A big pet peeve for me is inefficient dice habits. Putting them back in the box, staring at the dice for 5 minutes after a big roll to count rather than just picking up dice, etc etc.

I really dont care if my Marines get smacked! I am consoled that I know the Marines are one of the neatest factions out there and I will try do better next time. Also I hate gloaters and people who wont take your word for it on the rules. Oh and did I mention the guys who have pirated codexes on their laptops, AHHHHHHHH! As was said before... Take you defeat well and dont gloat if you win!

Mike

Zygrot24 wrote:A big pet peeve for me is inefficient dice habits. Putting them back in the box, staring at the dice for 5 minutes after a big roll to count rather than just picking up dice, etc etc.

For the life of me, I still can't understand why people pack up dice before the game is over. You need to have them out for just about every aspect of your turn, you need to have them out for a couple aspects of your opponent's turn, and you may be called on to roll for game length by the end. Why put them away, just so you can dig them out again?

The only reason I could see putting dice away is if you have a lot of them, and don't need them all out or they're taking up space. I myself have two 36 blocks of dice, a set of 26 custom dice, and a pill bottle full of extra d6s that I found laying around the house. Until the day I start playing Orks, I would never need to have all 100-some dice I have on the table.

Just a peeve that I saw a few weeks ago that bugs me is people who make fun of you/tease you for not having a beautifully painted army. My own Wolves are base coated, with the tanks being pretty much done (I actually did paint up the details on the things, just because it takes less time). I still get flak for not having gone over it to paint every single detail of the model, when a couple people at the FLGS have. Some people just don't have the time/energy/skill to bother with it. I'm a terrible painter (really unsteady hands) and between working a 30-hour-a-week job and going to school, I don't have much time to sit down and partake in this hobby other than a weekly game.

Biggest thing, complaining that my army is broken b/c you dont know how to counter it (I cannot begin to count how many times ive heard he term gay knights...)

Not knowing the basics of your army.

cliffnoting abilities in your army and altering them to give yourself an advantage (for the last time, just b/c a staff of light is a power weapon in cc does not mean it is ap2 shooting).

I know a few people who will roll three scatter die and then choose the one that hits...after it finally hits as the one they will use...

Now I know these guys personally and doubt they weight their die...but it's annoying.

Locclo wrote:Just a peeve that I saw a few weeks ago that bugs me is people who make fun of you/tease you for not having a beautifully painted army.

Similarly, I had a guy making fun of me for painting my marines as Ultramar, compelte with Calthon Brown bases. Meanwhile he was playing a grey plastic Grey Knights army with a single coat of yellow(?) on his dreadnaught.

Ya, my paint job is cliche? Indeed.

I need to start playing so I can meet these wonderful people...

Zygrot24 wrote:

Locclo wrote:Just a peeve that I saw a few weeks ago that bugs me is people who make fun of you/tease you for not having a beautifully painted army.

Similarly, I had a guy making fun of me for painting my marines as Ultramar, compelte with Calthon Brown bases. Meanwhile he was playing a grey plastic Grey Knights army with a single coat of yellow(?) on his dreadnaught.

Ya, my paint job is cliche? Indeed.

I probably would've picked at you too. Complimented your hard work but denigrated your chapter choice. That's just who I am. I mean they read Greek upside down, they're powder blue, oh yeah and they got biggity bitchslapped by the nids. Arent global campaign results that turn into fluf a bitch? Don't sweat it...they killed one of our Captains in a global campaign too.

AustonT wrote:

Zygrot24 wrote:

Locclo wrote:Just a peeve that I saw a few weeks ago that bugs me is people who make fun of you/tease you for not having a beautifully painted army.

Similarly, I had a guy making fun of me for painting my marines as Ultramar, compelte with Calthon Brown bases. Meanwhile he was playing a grey plastic Grey Knights army with a single coat of yellow(?) on his dreadnaught.

Ya, my paint job is cliche? Indeed.

I probably would've picked at you too. Complimented your hard work but denigrated your chapter choice. That's just who I am. I mean they read Greek upside down, they're powder blue, oh yeah and they got biggity bitchslapped by the nids. Arent global campaign results that turn into fluf a bitch? Don't sweat it...they killed one of our Captains in a global campaign too.

I get comments about playing ultra time to time. I honestly could care less. I enjoy painting them but after almost finishing my army I regret not making them Raven Guard. Oh well.

You get this for "I could care less"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/video/2010/may/20/language-usa
It's simply a good natured poke in the ribs when I go after ultras.

Zygrot24 wrote:

Locclo wrote:Just a peeve that I saw a few weeks ago that bugs me is people who make fun of you/tease you for not having a beautifully painted army.

Similarly, I had a guy making fun of me for painting my marines as Ultramar, compelte with Calthon Brown bases. Meanwhile he was playing a grey plastic Grey Knights army with a single coat of yellow(?) on his dreadnaught.

Ya, my paint job is cliche? Indeed.

he plays the GREY Knights. He just took the extra mile and didn't paint his models.