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 Albertorius wrote:
 A Town Called Malus wrote:
 Mr_Rose wrote:

Gert wrote:Djins (Djin? Are they like sheep and deer?)

Djinni I believe. Could be wrong.


Djinni is singular, djinn is plural (thank you Johnathan Stroud's Bartimaeus trilogy ).


Not really. Djinn is just one of the transliterations of the arab jinn. It's a general term, meant to be plural, but it can be used to a specific one, but the (most usual) actual singular would be yānn. Djinni is the nonsense you get when you add roman suffixes to things without actually thinking about it.

The actual term in english, of course, would be genie, which itself comes from the french.


Jinn is an Arabic collective noun deriving from the Semitic root jnn (Arabic: جَنّ / جُنّ‎, jann), whose primary meaning is 'to hide' or 'to adapt'. Some authors interpret the word to mean, literally, 'beings that are concealed from the senses'.[5] Cognates include the Arabic majnūn (مَجْنُون‎, 'possessed' or, generally, 'insane'), jannah (جَنَّة‎, 'garden', 'eden' or 'heaven'), and janīn (جَنِين‎, 'embryo').[6] Jinn is properly treated as a plural (however in Classical Arabic, may also appear as jānn, جَانّ‎), with the singular being jinnī (جِنِّيّ‎).

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 A Town Called Malus wrote:
 Albertorius wrote:
 A Town Called Malus wrote:
 Mr_Rose wrote:

Gert wrote:Djins (Djin? Are they like sheep and deer?)

Djinni I believe. Could be wrong.


Djinni is singular, djinn is plural (thank you Johnathan Stroud's Bartimaeus trilogy ).


Not really. Djinn is just one of the transliterations of the arab jinn. It's a general term, meant to be plural, but it can be used to a specific one, but the (most usual) actual singular would be yānn. Djinni is the nonsense you get when you add roman suffixes to things without actually thinking about it.

The actual term in english, of course, would be genie, which itself comes from the french.


Jinn is an Arabic collective noun deriving from the Semitic root jnn (Arabic: جَنّ / جُنّ‎, jann), whose primary meaning is 'to hide' or 'to adapt'. Some authors interpret the word to mean, literally, 'beings that are concealed from the senses'.[5] Cognates include the Arabic majnūn (مَجْنُون‎, 'possessed' or, generally, 'insane'), jannah (جَنَّة‎, 'garden', 'eden' or 'heaven'), and janīn (جَنِين‎, 'embryo').[6] Jinn is properly treated as a plural (however in Classical Arabic, may also appear as jānn, جَانّ‎), with the singular being jinnī (جِنِّيّ‎).


[b] sometimes Arabs use Jānn (Arabic: جان‎) term for singular, jānn also referred to jinn world – another plural, snakes / serpents and another type of jinn

Seeing as all the other loan words in english that I've seen with the "ii"added were made up from roman suffixes, I'd still think that the use of "djinni" in english comes from that.

That said, I'd also say there's a perfectly cromulent word there, in genie, that could be better used.

I haven't read the trilogy you mention, though, so maybe there's any hint to the etymology used there?
   
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https://www.totalwar.com/blog/total-war-warhammer-3-grand-cathay-lore/

More lore on Cathay, folding the Monkey King back in - along with a Warhammer-esque version of The Three Kingdoms, also Tzeentchian cults within the nation. I'm liking it so far with the exception that there's not much 'grimdark' shining through, Cathay seems a little too shiny, powerful and happy. It's probably just a side effect of the limited information so far - but I'd like it if they dropped some hints in of the Dragon Emperor abusing his position, not caring so much about the humans, some decay in the nation or something like that. At the moment, it's all a bit too positive and harmonious.
   
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When Will people remember that grimdark IS something out of 40k, not fantasy.

Fantasy has had darker and lighter periods, but It has never been grimdark, as in, things are bad because they are bad.

Thats why you dont have 1000 psykers sacrificed a day, why you have alliances between races, LOVE stories, etc.

Tell me a single relevant canonic couple in 40k.
As someone thats more fan of fantasy than 40k and aos IS sad to see how many people tries to make of fantasy what 40k IS.
I mean, one of the more interesting bits about Chaos in fantasy VS 40k is that Many people venerate those gods in a more orgánic way like the norse without being all crazy cultist but functional societys with a different pantheon.

How IS cathay gonna be Happy. It Will be worse than medieval china, and no medieval country was a Happy place

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Tell me a single relevant canonic couple in 40k.


Amberely and Cain plus others in the Cain novels
Many and varied in the Gaunts Ghosts books - where there are family groups.
Hell even the navigator and favoured slave in the ADB Night Lords novels
Loads of them....

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IT has lighter periods and regions, but its also got a lot of grim-dark to it. It's just not as heavily popularised or focused on as it is for 40K and even within 40K its honestly focused a LOT more on by the fans than they sometimes realise. Mostly its a scale thing, for Old World it might be one city that's plagued with Skaven and thus in a dark situation; whilst for 40K its a whole Hive City that's got more people than a whole planet - billions nestled within it in a super-epic scale of grim dark. Even if the next world over is a green paradise.


I also think the variety of stories is in part greatly because stories about the Old World had no racial focus. Yes the good side did somewhat out number the bad and some races got more stories than others; but in general there was no "golden boy" faction.
For 40K a vast amount of the stories focus on one side - the Imperial and often either grunt warriors on the front line or Marines - again on the front lines. So the nature of the stories is often focused around that. It is a weakness in 40K lore in terms of diversity. Love certainly does happen, its just not focused on.





But yeah the Old World had a lot of Grim Dark, its just subtle at times or limited in where it impacts. Also lets not forget even without Grim Dark its still a world at war. Cathay is joining into a massive war and that means battles and darkness and evil seeping its way around when you deal with Chaos.

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 Londinium wrote:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/total-war-warhammer-3-grand-cathay-lore/

More lore on Cathay, folding the Monkey King back in - along with a Warhammer-esque version of The Three Kingdoms, also Tzeentchian cults within the nation. I'm liking it so far with the exception that there's not much 'grimdark' shining through, Cathay seems a little too shiny, powerful and happy. It's probably just a side effect of the limited information so far - but I'd like it if they dropped some hints in of the Dragon Emperor abusing his position, not caring so much about the humans, some decay in the nation or something like that. At the moment, it's all a bit too positive and harmonious.


And it's gonna stay that way if they want the CCP to approve it

   
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Has already seeped in, according to the lore, since Tzeentch has cults within Cathay. Anyway, we'll see what both CA and GW do with it.

On another note, it occurs to me that the introduction of Cathay in this fashion might also be used as a way of moving them into AoS. We'll get info on the faction via Total War, and this could be used as a springboard to provide background and explain a dragon-god, or something similar, that joins the Order faction with a new set of Cathay-themed followers.
   
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Carlovonsexron wrote:
 Londinium wrote:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/total-war-warhammer-3-grand-cathay-lore/

More lore on Cathay, folding the Monkey King back in - along with a Warhammer-esque version of The Three Kingdoms, also Tzeentchian cults within the nation. I'm liking it so far with the exception that there's not much 'grimdark' shining through, Cathay seems a little too shiny, powerful and happy. It's probably just a side effect of the limited information so far - but I'd like it if they dropped some hints in of the Dragon Emperor abusing his position, not caring so much about the humans, some decay in the nation or something like that. At the moment, it's all a bit too positive and harmonious.


And it's gonna stay that way if they want the CCP to approve it


Compare it to the High Elves - seems about the same? Except they have Dark Elves attacking their near impregnable border fortresses and Cults of Slaanesh infiltrating rather than Tzeentch.

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Eumerin wrote:
Has already seeped in, according to the lore, since Tzeentch has cults within Cathay. Anyway, we'll see what both CA and GW do with it.

On another note, it occurs to me that the introduction of Cathay in this fashion might also be used as a way of moving them into AoS. We'll get info on the faction via Total War, and this could be used as a springboard to provide background and explain a dragon-god, or something similar, that joins the Order faction with a new set of Cathay-themed followers.


Maybe Dracothion is the Dragon Emperor ?

Tzeentch may well be affecting Miao's brother whose flame in his hand looks a lot like a symbol of Tzeentch ?

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So the Terracotta Sentinels are what they decided the "Terracotta Automatons" the old lore mentioned are...

Such a let down that they turned out to just be giant stone golems that act like normal humans. Mechnical steam or clockwork powered human-sized automatons that evoke the real-world terracotta army would have been so much more interesting.

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 Galas wrote:
When Will people remember that grimdark IS something out of 40k, not fantasy.

Fantasy has had darker and lighter periods, but It has never been grimdark, as in, things are bad because they are bad.


It's been aesthetically and content wise very grimdark since at least 6e - if not to 40k's extremes. Even though it's fluctuated over time (4/5e technicolour madness) it's always been there. Look at 1e WHFRPG for instance, that's more grim dark than a lot of modern content. Look at Mordheim, there's stuff in that rulebook which exceeds anything in 40k. Scratch below the surface of the most 'good' factions and they're not exactly nice - look at the High Elves and Bretonnians.

As for canonic couples in 40k, there's absolutely dozens of them in BL books.

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I agree, 40k focusing on Marines is it's biggest weakness

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 Mentlegen324 wrote:
So the Terracotta Sentinels are what they decided the "Terracotta Automatons" the old lore mentioned are...

Such a let down that they turned out to just be giant stone golems that act like normal humans. Mechnical steam or clockwork powered human-sized automatons that evoke the real-world terracotta army would have been so much more interesting.


I completely disagree. Changing the terra-cotta Warriors into overdone steampunk garbage would be like changing the background for undead and Tomb Kings so that all
Mummies are actually robots. If you don’t like the flavor of a faction, don’t buy the faction instead of dropping in a dollop of your preference that doesn’t belong. You don’t go to a party and say “I don’t like cake. I like hot wings” and add Buffalo hot sauce to the birthday cake.

   
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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
 Mentlegen324 wrote:
So the Terracotta Sentinels are what they decided the "Terracotta Automatons" the old lore mentioned are...

Such a let down that they turned out to just be giant stone golems that act like normal humans. Mechnical steam or clockwork powered human-sized automatons that evoke the real-world terracotta army would have been so much more interesting.


I completely disagree. Changing the terra-cotta Warriors into overdone steampunk garbage would be like changing the background for undead and Tomb Kings so that all
Mummies are actually robots. If you don’t like the flavor of a faction, don’t buy the faction instead of dropping in a dollop of your preference that doesn’t belong. You don’t go to a party and say “I don’t like cake. I like hot wings” and add Buffalo hot sauce to the birthday cake.


It's fine to disagree, but the way you've worded all that comes across as quite obtuse.It's not in the slightest bit like changing the Undead or Tomb Kings, because Cathay has only just been turned into a full faction - the line of lore the Terracotta Sentinels are based on is worded as such in the WHFB wiki:

"Hordes of Chaos Warriors battle legions of terracotta automatons attempting to shore up the Great Wall with their own clay bodies"

Before now, what exactly that line referred to was not established in the lore. My interpretation of this line before now, was of a legion of soldiers based on the real-world Terracotta Army but capable of moving and fighting. Cathay being the most powerful/largest human Empire in the setting suggested they'd have far more fantastical contraptions than the Old World Empire does, so considering that and the lines about there being "legions" implying there were a large number of them around combined with how they were "attempting" to shore up the wall by piling onto it both suggesting they were relatively small, and the usual sort of definition of "automaton" involving mechanical or technological powered, all to me made me think of something along the lines of them being elegant yet slightly uncanny-valley looking clockwork-powered versions of the real-world terracotta army. Similar to classic historical automatons but with a bit more of a fanatical element to them to turn them into capable warriors.

An Army of these capable of moving and fighting on their own:
Spoiler:


There's even a few fan concepts of them for Cathay as mechanical automatons (albeit steam powered) like was implied originally https://i.redd.it/ssc7c5hpi7331.jpg

The idea of Cathay being advanced enough technologically to create an ornate fantasy robot army powered by ticking clockwork as they shuffled towards the enemy in unison was one that I'd have found far more unique and interesting than huge stone golems that behave like big humans, because how they are now isn't what comes to mind when reading that description of them from before. Nothing I said implied I want them to change what Cathay is overall or its theming and you saying basically "The factions not meant for you. so get out" just because I'm slightly disappointed that a single unit isn't quite how I imagined they'd be before that faction was even fully expanded comes across as pretty rude.

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The giant terracota Golem are cool but AN army of smaller autómata would also look cool. No need for unproper steampunk,just Clay golems with souls whiting moving them. Be them old soldiers, prisioners, criminals, etc....

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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SoCal

I think you’re missing the point. Like undead and mummies, the trope of animated terra-cotta Warriors already existed. What you’re suggesting would be like GW deciding to add a gnome faction, but then declare the gnomes are actually an albino tribe of goblins. Gnomes may not exist in GW canon yet, but the audience already has a conception of what they are and how they should work. It’s why all of the classic races work as they are supposed to instead of in some “fresh” way, where elves are short lived, dwarves are amphibians and orcs are carved from wood.

   
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I must say that i really like the idea of the terracotta warriors being chaff. Would have made the faction more original imo

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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I think you’re missing the point. Like undead and mummies, the trope of animated terra-cotta Warriors already existed. What you’re suggesting would be like GW deciding to add a gnome faction, but then declare the gnomes are actually an albino tribe of goblins. Gnomes may not exist in GW canon yet, but the audience already has a conception of what they are and how they should work. It’s why all of the classic races work as they are supposed to instead of in some “fresh” way, where elves are short lived, dwarves are amphibians and orcs are carved from wood.


I agree and disagree...

It depends on whether in your mind a terracotta warrior has a baseline starting point in fantasy... in reality its just a statue... but in fantasy does it have to be an animated statue housing a soul, or an animated magical statue, or could it be clockwork and have the same visual impact as a magical statue?

I dont mind magical animated statues... or soul encases statues... but I think the closkwork statues could have been cool.

Edit: Since I didnt really make a point... an albino goblin gnome would visually be very different from a traditional gnome. But a clockwork terracotta soldier would not necessarily be that different visually.

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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I think you’re missing the point. Like undead and mummies, the trope of animated terra-cotta Warriors already existed. What you’re suggesting would be like GW deciding to add a gnome faction, but then declare the gnomes are actually an albino tribe of goblins. Gnomes may not exist in GW canon yet, but the audience already has a conception of what they are and how they should work. It’s why all of the classic races work as they are supposed to instead of in some “fresh” way, where elves are short lived, dwarves are amphibians and orcs are carved from wood.


So when it comes to:

a unit clearly inspired by the real Terracotta army
that is said to be "legion" in terms of number
that struggles to shore up a giant wall
is in a setting that has mechanical creations powered by both steam and clockwork (there's a clockwork thundertusk and the Empire has a clockwork horse)
Is part of the most powerful and presumably technologically advanced human empire in the setting


That when the word "Automaton" was used to describe such a unit, that expecting said unit be human-sized mechanical automatons would have been subverting expectations and equivalent to doing something as wild and wacky with the idea as completely flipping the usual characteristics of fantasy races and that instead giant magic golems should have been expected? I find that utterly absurd.

Cathay has plenty of magic and magic stone golems are obviously something that appears in fantasy occasionally, but those are not synonymous with or the intended default of the idea of "terracotta automaton" as described in the original context. They're two mutually exclusive ideas.

Both types were a possibility, but don't make out that the idea of them being mechanical automatons is an inherently "Wrong" idea when given the very brief description we had.

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 streetsamurai wrote:
I must say that i really like the idea of the terracotta warriors being chaff. Would have made the faction more original imo


Same, really.

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 streetsamurai wrote:
I must say that i really like the idea of the terracotta warriors being chaff. Would have made the faction more original imo

Terracotta giants are by far the most common interpretation of fantasy terracotta warriors...

Cathay is pretty wild as an army, Dragon/human leaders, flying balloon junk warmachines and terracotta giants - this is a pretty unusual army across all manner of settings.
Adding some clay zombies would have been different, but hardly been the one thing to make them stand out. Especially when you have a peasant levy already.

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Why would you go to all the trouble of creating a clockwork automaton, which is going to require metal "innards" for the springs, and then place all of it inside a clay shell?
   
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 Tastyfish wrote:
 streetsamurai wrote:
I must say that i really like the idea of the terracotta warriors being chaff. Would have made the faction more original imo

Terracotta giants are by far the most common interpretation of fantasy terracotta warriors...


Since when?

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Eumerin wrote:
Why would you go to all the trouble of creating a clockwork automaton, which is going to require metal "innards" for the springs, and then place all of it inside a clay shell?


Perhaps because you can enhance/enchant the clay to be a bit more durable?

Then its a question of production and time. Perhaps they could make them of metal but they don't have the metal resources to achieve that; or perhaps metal takes longer to produce so they'd never have time to make as many. Or who knows perhaps they don't have enough people who are trained in metal working and enough forges to make them out of metal en-mass so they make them out of clay instead. It could even be that the clay warriors are or were seen to be, easier to fix and upkeep between battles.

It could even just be the cost. That the armed forces need X number but can't justify nor raise the money needed for metal, so they use a cheaper material that works just as well.

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 Smokestack wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I think you’re missing the point. Like undead and mummies, the trope of animated terra-cotta Warriors already existed. What you’re suggesting would be like GW deciding to add a gnome faction, but then declare the gnomes are actually an albino tribe of goblins. Gnomes may not exist in GW canon yet, but the audience already has a conception of what they are and how they should work. It’s why all of the classic races work as they are supposed to instead of in some “fresh” way, where elves are short lived, dwarves are amphibians and orcs are carved from wood.


I agree and disagree...

It depends on whether in your mind a terracotta warrior has a baseline starting point in fantasy... in reality its just a statue... but in fantasy does it have to be an animated statue housing a soul, or an animated magical statue, or could it be clockwork and have the same visual impact as a magical statue?

I dont mind magical animated statues... or soul encases statues... but I think the closkwork statues could have been cool.

Edit: Since I didnt really make a point... an albino goblin gnome would visually be very different from a traditional gnome. But a clockwork terracotta soldier would not necessarily be that different visually.


Making them clockwork would force them to have joints, mechanisms, clockwork noises, possibly steam. It violates the nature of them, as they would be made of bronze and brass instead of terra cotta, and less ancient. Clockwork could work for other things—why not invent something new or take some fancy bronze/metal sculptures and make them clockwork? Throwing steampunk technology thousands of years into the past and changing the faction into a technologically stagnant shadow of whoever built those robots is a pretty poor solution. It may look cool, but it requires making the whole faction dumb or grimderp in order to work.


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Why would you go to all the trouble of creating a clockwork automaton, which is going to require metal "innards" for the springs, and then place all of it inside a clay shell?


Thank you.

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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 Tastyfish wrote:
 streetsamurai wrote:
I must say that i really like the idea of the terracotta warriors being chaff. Would have made the faction more original imo

Terracotta giants are by far the most common interpretation of fantasy terracotta warriors...


Since when?


That was meant to be read as sarcastic, hoped the rest the post made that clear along with the...after that statement.
I can understand how you don't like the vibe, but that statement about this choice making them see generic seemed pretty ridiculous to me.
   
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 Tastyfish wrote:
 streetsamurai wrote:
I must say that i really like the idea of the terracotta warriors being chaff. Would have made the faction more original imo

Terracotta giants are by far the most common interpretation of fantasy terracotta warriors...

Cathay is pretty wild as an army, Dragon/human leaders, flying balloon junk warmachines and terracotta giants - this is a pretty unusual army across all manner of settings.
Adding some clay zombies would have been different, but hardly been the one thing to make them stand out. Especially when you have a peasant levy already.


I don't know about the mechanical stuff but clay zombie/golems sounds way better than giant statues straight out of WoW.

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Why everything that we don't like is now "straight out of WoW".

As someone that really likes wow, maybe even more than warhammer, is getting tiresome because it makes no sense.

Warhammer has literal bone giants. This is a clay giant. In the universe that has storm giants. Dragon-ogre giants. Giants. Gigantic Giants. Two headed giants.

And the ballons have like 0 technology to them. They are less fantasy than girocopters. They are just hot ballons. And guys with powder weaponry. You know. From china, the actuals inventors of gunpowder.

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 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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 Galas wrote:
Why everything that we don't like is now "straight out of WoW".

As someone that really likes wow, maybe even more than warhammer, is getting tiresome because it makes no sense.


Because all Fantasy has been aping off WoW for many years.

It's fine to like WoW, I want something different.

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Old World Prediction: The Empire will have Clockwork Paragon Warsuits 
   
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Apologies if I don't see the resemblence.
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