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GW just announced their latest store closing. The Yorkridge MD store will close by the end of the month.

This must be part of their brilliant cost saving plans to make their company appear more financially sound than it really is. First it was one man stores. Now it is no store at all. If we are really lucky they will discontinue finecast.

All of this is good news for FLGS and competitors of GW.

What's with the acidic tone?

Not sure why the store is closing, but one can assume it's not profitable and not showing signs of growth.

Wouldn't it make good business sense to close it, if that were the case?

Zoned

Zoned wrote:What's with the acidic tone?

It's the forum rules when speaking of GW.

GW's business decisions breed resentment in the community. See Finecast, Pacific prices, price hikes, etc.

In terms of their stores in particular, they put lots of FLGS out of business by opening GW stores, and now close their stores, leaving the community without a store.

As a long term business decision I think that it is unwise to close their stores. They serve as a center for the hobby community in a way that somebody's house cannot. You can play games, paint, meet fellow gamers, hang out, etc. Without such a center many people make not take up the hobby, or may drop out of it. Unlike FLGS, GW stores only allow GW products to be used, and thus are good for their business. By stifling FLGS they can in effect keep other companies from getting a foothold in the marketplace. So, although they will save some cash by closing the store, in the long run I think that they will lose money. Companies that looked invincible in their day like TSR, went the way of the dinosaur.

With all of the talk about a buyout of GW it will be interesting to see how this plays out. I do not think that any company in their right mind would purchase GW.

Yay. Another GW hate thread.

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This is why I have trouble warming to this community or the PP community.

curran12 wrote:Yay. Another GW hate thread.

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This is why I have trouble warming to this community or the PP community.

If you don't like it you can always not read it.

Also, if you only wan't to ear good things about GW, you could always go back to the GW forums... oh wait...

curran12 wrote:Yay. Another GW hate thread.

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This is why I have trouble warming to this community or the PP community.

Not all of us here on Dakka are GW haters. Hang in there. Without hate or appreciate threads we would run out of things to talk about.

PhantomViper wrote:

curran12 wrote:Yay. Another GW hate thread.

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This is why I have trouble warming to this community or the PP community.

If you don't like it you can always not read it.

Also, if you only wan't to ear good things about GW, you could always go back to the GW forums... oh wait...

Yes, because ignoring problems always makes them better.

And thanks for proving my problems with the PP community. It's not about the games, it is about you wanting to be smug and condescending.

Stores open and close all the time. I don't think it's a "beginning of the end" or whatever. Cool your jets.

Brother SRM wrote:Stores open and close all the time. I don't think it's a "beginning of the end" or whatever. Cool your jets.

But GW is doing...SOMETHING! It is time to unleash the smug! FIRE ALL BATTERIES!

Did someone mention PP before you?

The reason there is a lot of negativity towards GW is that GW has done things that piss people off. It's human nature to react badly to things and to be slow to let go and move on.

curran12 wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:Stores open and close all the time. I don't think it's a "beginning of the end" or whatever. Cool your jets.

But GW is doing...SOMETHING! It is time to unleash the smug! FIRE ALL BATTERIES!

SMUG LEVELS REACHING CRITICAL MASS

curran12 wrote:

PhantomViper wrote:

curran12 wrote:Yay. Another GW hate thread.

thisthreadagain.jpg

This is why I have trouble warming to this community or the PP community.

If you don't like it you can always not read it.

Also, if you only wan't to ear good things about GW, you could always go back to the GW forums... oh wait...

Yes, because ignoring problems always makes them better.

And thanks for proving my problems with the PP community. It's not about the games, it is about you wanting to be smug and condescending.

You could always hit the ignore button in posts in don't like. A tool I should use more often actually...

Byte wrote:

You could always hit the ignore button in posts in don't like. A tool I should use more often actually...

I totally could, but I am trying (my best anyway) to integrate with the wider community as a whole. I don't want to just block out what bugs me, I want to understand it and hopefully try to find some middle ground.

I never was a fan of the "well if you don't like it, just ignore it" philosophy. If I don't like something, me ignoring it isn't going to make it vanish.

curran12 wrote:

I totally could, but I am trying (my best anyway) to integrate with the wider community as a whole. I don't want to just block out what bugs me, I want to understand it and hopefully try to find some middle ground.

I never was a fan of the "well if you don't like it, just ignore it" philosophy. If I don't like something, me ignoring it isn't going to make it vanish.

tl;dr: this gives me an excuse to troll

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curran12 wrote:I totally could, but I am trying (my best anyway) to integrate with the wider community as a whole. I don't want to just block out what bugs me, I want to understand it and hopefully try to find some middle ground.

Dakka has a roughly equal amount of GW like and dislike, and most posters are probably apathetic (a viewpoint which is often not expressed as it is easier to motivate yourself to post for or against something than it is to just say "meh", or "it's OK").

But really, I don't quite understand your vitriol in your initial and subsequent posts. And unless you are an old poster on a new account, you must really enjoy hopping on the bandwagon of "thisthreadagain". The OP was a mildly negative post about GW closing a store, not exactly the basis for GW white knighting as far as I am concerned

spaceelf wrote:In terms of their stores in particular, they put lots of FLGS out of business by opening GW stores, and now close their stores, leaving the community without a store.

Funny how whenever called to put forth actual proof, this claim usually turns out to be overblown bs, and you see things like people bitching bitterly about 'that store that GW put out of business,' that actually closed years before GW put on in the area. Who knew that GW was putting Orrikan's space time shennanigans to use in their business model?

curran12 wrote:

Yes, because ignoring problems always makes them better.

Funny enough, that's how I feel about GW.

On topic though, I hope there's a nearby LGS for people to keep gaming.

SilverMK2 wrote:

Dakka has a roughly equal amount of GW like and dislike, and most posters are probably apathetic (a viewpoint which is often not expressed as it is easier to motivate yourself to post for or against something than it is to just say "meh", or "it's OK").

pft, its my belief that Dakka is about 75% Gdub hate. Anyone who says otherwise is an apologist!

spaceelf wrote:By stifling FLGS they can in effect keep other companies from getting a foothold in the marketplace

Ha, yeah, I'm feeling so stifled.)

As an opposing point of veiw: GW, MTG, Pokemon and a few other games are all that kept your FLGS afloat for many years, allowing them to bring in different products, and letting those companies flourish. No GW would have mean't no Warmachine, and many other games.

curran12 wrote:
Not all of us here on Dakka are GW haters. Hang in there. Without hate or appreciate threads we would run out of things to talk about.

Finding a GW appreciation thread is liking finding a finecast model with no mistakes.

Portugal Jones wrote:

spaceelf wrote:In terms of their stores in particular, they put lots of FLGS out of business by opening GW stores, and now close their stores, leaving the community without a store.

Funny how whenever called to put forth actual proof, this claim usually turns out to be overblown bs, and you see things like people bitching bitterly about 'that store that GW put out of business,' that actually closed years before GW put on in the area. Who knew that GW was putting Orrikan's space time shennanigans to use in their business model?

Lots of Balmer area stores have closed, and others stopped carrying GW products and miniature games in general since GW expanded.

Game Sanctuary in Towson, and another comic shop in Towson closed. Alternate Worlds stopped carrying GW products. Legends of Towson has stopped dealing in miniature games.

spaceelf wrote:

Portugal Jones wrote:

spaceelf wrote:In terms of their stores in particular, they put lots of FLGS out of business by opening GW stores, and now close their stores, leaving the community without a store.

Funny how whenever called to put forth actual proof, this claim usually turns out to be overblown bs, and you see things like people bitching bitterly about 'that store that GW put out of business,' that actually closed years before GW put on in the area. Who knew that GW was putting Orrikan's space time shennanigans to use in their business model?

Lots of Balmer area stores have closed, and others stopped carrying GW products and miniature games in general since GW expanded.

Game Sanctuary in Towson, and another comic shop in Towson closed. Alternate Worlds stopped carrying GW products. Legends of Towson has stopped dealing in miniature games.

did they close due to GW, or were they financially unsound? What other products did they carry? It's a bad idea to only rely on one type of product. Have you looked indepth into their Tax Returns too see what they were spending money on?

Sergeant Horse wrote:pft, its my belief that Dakka is about 75% Gdub hate. Anyone who says otherwise is an apologist!

That is just because 99% of everything GW does is stupid

Which means that about 300% of Dakka is actually pro GW to make the maths right

On topic though, I hope there's a nearby LGS for people to keep gaming


I know of one new store opening up, but I believe it's a bit more south and east. Yorkridge is pretty much on the 12 Oclock positition above Baltimore?

aosol wrote:

curran12 wrote:
Not all of us here on Dakka are GW haters. Hang in there. Without hate or appreciate threads we would run out of things to talk about.

Finding a GW appreciation thread is liking finding a finecast model with no mistakes.

Huh. I have quite a few of those, actually.

Weird, huh?

Sergeant Horse wrote:

spaceelf wrote:

Portugal Jones wrote:

spaceelf wrote:In terms of their stores in particular, they put lots of FLGS out of business by opening GW stores, and now close their stores, leaving the community without a store.

Funny how whenever called to put forth actual proof, this claim usually turns out to be overblown bs, and you see things like people bitching bitterly about 'that store that GW put out of business,' that actually closed years before GW put on in the area. Who knew that GW was putting Orrikan's space time shennanigans to use in their business model?

Lots of Balmer area stores have closed, and others stopped carrying GW products and miniature games in general since GW expanded.

Game Sanctuary in Towson, and another comic shop in Towson closed. Alternate Worlds stopped carrying GW products. Legends of Towson has stopped dealing in miniature games.

did they close due to GW, or were they financially unsound? What other products did they carry? It's a bad idea to only rely on one type of product. Have you looked indepth into their Tax Returns too see what they were spending money on?

Probably had far less to do with what GW did, and far more to do with how the stores business operations, cashflow, etc. Stores open and close a lot in the Comic/Game business. There's even a rumor that a bad economy can make business in general suck horribly and cause stores to do worse. But hey, easier to just blame GW for it.)

I have 3 GW stores in my area. We've been talking some about community building and are getting together to brainstorm some things next week. Having GW stores nearby isn't a death sentence to a FLGS unless you work hard to make it that way. And they can be so useful in teaching lots of new people to play, and then come to my store to buy things.)

Somebody change the thread title. One store closing is not "The GW store closures begin".

Speaking as a GW hater I'd like to say that this thread got my hopes up then let me down. This is a bad thread.

spaceelf wrote:

Portugal Jones wrote:

spaceelf wrote:In terms of their stores in particular, they put lots of FLGS out of business by opening GW stores, and now close their stores, leaving the community without a store.

Funny how whenever called to put forth actual proof, this claim usually turns out to be overblown bs, and you see things like people bitching bitterly about 'that store that GW put out of business,' that actually closed years before GW put on in the area. Who knew that GW was putting Orrikan's space time shennanigans to use in their business model?

Lots of Balmer area stores have closed, and others stopped carrying GW products and miniature games in general since GW expanded.

Which illustrates my point rather nicely. What, if anything, did GW have to do with any of them going out of business? Does the timing even work? There are a lot of GW stores in the vicinity of Baltimore, so if every time a gaming store folds you blame GW, you're going to have a nice, long list, that doesn't actually have anything to do with GW but certainly sounds mean when you reel it off.

curran12 wrote:Yay. Another GW hate thread.

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This is why I have trouble warming to this community or the PP community.

Have no fear the fanbois will soon arrive in full white knight mode...