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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/09 15:50:02
Subject: 45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Furious Fire Dragon
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Any chance of a report soon?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/09 23:28:20
Subject: 45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Hope you make more battle reports these are excellent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 20:22:43
Subject: Re:45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Just wanted to throw in my two cents. The modeling and painting on this venom is awsome well done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 20:56:10
Subject: 45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Brother Ramses wrote:In your second game against the Tau, you cannot have landed your Raider on the upper floor of the ruins in the center. There is a specific list of what units can move to the upper floors of ruins and skimmers are not included.
The only time a skimmer can land on top of a building is when it is classed as an impassable building.
Within that report, I explain how the center piece is a special piece of terrain that has both ruins and building rules.
Also, since my opponent and I agreed on such a thing happening, we could
Quick update guys... My ADHD has taken a toll on me, and I have made an appointment to see a VA professional this week about medication. I really can't go on like this.
Hang in there. When I do the next report, I'll inform everyone here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/11 15:48:52
Subject: 45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
Sheppey, England
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Hope all goes well, BuFFo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/14 07:22:40
Subject: 45 Games with Dark Eldar
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On a Canoptek Spyder's Waiting List
Vancouver, B.C.
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So when are there gonna be any more battle reports? Its been like 3 months
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/14 15:13:54
Subject: Re:45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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I like all of these very much so far, keep it up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/16 01:12:32
Subject: 45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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How about keeping us up to date with your WL record.
A novel idea. I may do this for my future battles.
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Record:
8th edition:
Tyranids: 5-4-3
Orks: 4-2-1
5th edition
Orks:18-5-1
Tyranids: 17-10-4
6th edition
Tyranids: 6-4-1
Orks: 3-1-0 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 01:15:23
Subject: 45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Necronicus wrote:So when are there gonna be any more battle reports? Its been like 3 months
Yeah, well I never got the support to do more, so I just stopped.
Having only 3 people comment on each report wasn't worth the roughly 7 hours per report.
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Ayn Rand "We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 01:48:18
Subject: 45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Lord of the Fleet
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Oh wow it has been forever since I read these. Sad to see these go but I suppose the glamor and the band wagoning of new dark eldar has worn off so not too many people are interested in experimentation. Oh well it was fun while it lasted, cheers buffo
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 01:58:38
Subject: 45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
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BuFFo wrote:Necronicus wrote:So when are there gonna be any more battle reports? Its been like 3 months
Yeah, well I never got the support to do more, so I just stopped.
Having only 3 people comment on each report wasn't worth the roughly 7 hours per report.
BuFFo:
For battle reports to get significant feedback, they have to be something people want to read and look at. You've had a lot of interest in the principle of what you're doing, but your execution and response has been terrible. Look at the past 15 pages, there are three repetitive themes from your potential readership:
1. Stop making up rules and house-ruling things that break the rules to give yourself an advantage since it isn't a fair representation of a unit's ability to do something.
2. Play a competitive list so that people can get a feel for the abilities of the units in the codex and how they work together and against enemies.
3. Play against competitive lists (the big and popular themes that people come to Battle Reports to see strategies for and against).
Your response to any sort of critique of your work has been you literally screaming people out of your thread. Dude, this is as honest and constructive of criticism as I can give you. People WANT to see your batreps - but you need to make them something people want to see: A good DE army fighting a good opponent, and the DE player not cheating. Don't rage at me; just think about it, please? I'd love to see a fellow DE player write batreps that I can enjoy reading too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 02:09:44
Subject: Re:45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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I have no idea what you are saying dash. I have you on ignore due to the constant flame baiting, trolling and off topic responses you make to attempt to derail me.
Sorry my threads are more popular than yours. You just have to deal with that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 02:32:39
Subject: Re:45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
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BuFFo wrote:I have no idea what you are saying dash. I have you on ignore due to the constant flame baiting, trolling and off topic responses you make to attempt to derail me.
Sorry my threads are more popular than yours. You just have to deal with that.
*sigh*
I tried. Perhaps you should ask a moderator to explain why your responses to people make them not want to read and comment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 08:03:32
Subject: 45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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Amusing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 08:05:17
Subject: 45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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thunderingjove wrote:Amusing.
Hey, I'll do a battle report if you say please.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 16:43:43
Subject: 45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I have to agree with Dash, pretty much entirely. I really want to read some good DE reports and I even appreciate the fact that you are trying to get underused units to work.
However, what I find interesting, as a reader, is seeing those units work against top tier lists when used in a competitive list. Anyone can make any unit "work" when they're playing the unoptimized game. What really gets the interest / debate juices flowing is seeing those webway scourges (extreme example) do well against Mech Guard or AV13 BA spam. Then you've created something worth discussing.
You also don't take criticism well at all. While Dash did not make his point in the softest manner, his bullets are still valid. If you disagree with his points, then explain why. I think you get a lack of responses, because you don't often show you're willing to have reasoned debate (from what I've read). Usually it is some line-in-the-sand explanation rather than a thoughtful back and forth with the readers.
EDIT: I just thought of something that would definitely get people interested. There is a lot of talking of the GK dreadnaught spam. 3-6 psycannon dreads backed up by some rhino purifiers and strike squads (at 2000). There are lot of posts on the power of that list and you can find it if you check the tactics / lists forums. I'm sure if you did a battle report or two against that list trying to see what works and what doesn't, people would be very interested. I know I would be.
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Team USA ETC Dark Elves 2010, 2011
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 16:44:06
Subject: Re:45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'd just like to say Buffo that I read every report and its because of your reports that I made a Dark Eldar Army. Just want to say thanks for all your work. I am sorry to see you not finish this out. I actually liked that you played crazy combinations of units as well as competitive lists.
Just note that although not everyone posts many listen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 18:30:00
Subject: 45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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I did not comment on every report (although I did on a few of them). I found them all to be interesting so I could learn the new DE codex and get an idea of their individual capabilities. I liked that you featured competitive and more ad hoc lists in the reports.
I think a number of people watched and read w/o commenting, if there was a like option to click I would have hit it, as I am sure many others would have.
From what I have heard/read on the forums Dash is well meaning but sometimes lacks the subtlety of language to effectively communicate his point (that is not an insult, you are very direct Dash and I know 'what you mean' - I also enjoyed your bat reps btw).
Regardless, my point is his points have some insight in them, even if the delivery is a bit brusque.
I would definitely read/view future battle reports, I have had the chance to play DE a few times and your reports helped me to understand the matchup more effectively.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 23:08:26
Subject: 45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
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Leenus wrote:
You also don't take criticism well at all. While Dash did not make his point in the softest manner, his bullets are still valid. If you disagree with his points, then explain why.
No argument; people old enough to read, post, and communicate online shouldn't need to be coddled because of their insecurity. Most of my issues with folks on the internet stem from that.
BuFFo: Take the words of these folks to heart. Whether you like my delivery or not, I speak the truth. If you feel like your threads are more popular than mine...cool! Then why did you stop writing them due to lack of readership? Get back into it, take my advice to heart, and make yourself a good name around here. We need more DE players.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 23:19:17
Subject: Re:45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Um...bad attitude. You lost me too.
Good luck to you sir.
BuFFo wrote:I have no idea what you are saying dash. I have you on ignore due to the constant flame baiting, trolling and off topic responses you make to attempt to derail me.
Sorry my threads are more popular than yours. You just have to deal with that.
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Record:
8th edition:
Tyranids: 5-4-3
Orks: 4-2-1
5th edition
Orks:18-5-1
Tyranids: 17-10-4
6th edition
Tyranids: 6-4-1
Orks: 3-1-0 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 23:26:21
Subject: 45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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100% with Dash on this one, seems like your simply playing against the most random a cobbled together lists possible.
When someone gives any type of C&C thats not good, you scream and rage for 20 mins, then ignore them.
Not the best way to get people reading your batreps.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/22 02:00:09
Subject: 45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
The great state of Florida
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Never read one of your batreps before but I've got to say I like them a lot and appreciate all the work and well thought detail you've put into it . It's nice to see a variety of lists on both sides of the table. I look forward to a future batrep one day. There is a silver lining in every dark cloud my friend.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/22 02:15:31
Subject: 45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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I say do some more bat reps but only if you want to, I've enjoyed all of them so far but I wouldnt want you to spend too many hours just to please me.. and tbh I couldn't care about how ''competitive'' the lists are, I just like bat reps..plain and simple.
So make some more if you enjoy it or dont if its too much hassel, either way its all good.
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3000 Points
500 Points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/22 03:00:32
Subject: 45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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۞ Jack ۞ wrote:100% with Dash on this one, seems like your simply playing against the most random a cobbled together lists possible.
You mean I am playing against the kinds of list 99% of 40k hobbyists across the globe own and use because 99% of hobbyist play for fun and enjoy the HOBBY? Perish the thought.
When someone gives any type of C&C thats not good, you scream and rage for 20 mins, then ignore them.
Am I allowed to disagree with you? I am afraid to do so.
Holy~Heretic wrote:So make some more if you enjoy it or dont if its too much hassel, either way its all good.
It isn't a hassle. I have ADHD, and I just lost interest. I have recently got on medication for it, but who knows, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/22 04:26:13
Subject: Re:45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Thread keeps getting bumped in the Battle Report section with no additional battle reports. Just lock it if you aren't doing it, then I can quit checking back.
(Yes, this is evidence of readers who don't post on each report. If you make reports to get replys then you're probably doing them for the wrong reason.)
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7K Points of Black Legion and Daemons
5K Points of Grey Knights and Red Hunters |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/22 04:56:41
Subject: 45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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Your attitude is lousy Buffo, if you want to maintain readership try listening to your audience. You see batreps as fun/casual, that is fine. Some in your audience want to learn something too though.
A smart man would probably try to take into account both points of view and try to find a way to accommodate them. You cannot complain about lack of responses if you get hostile to suggestions and only want your ass kissed. Take that as rude if you want, but I not see what other response you could want if discussion of suggestions and competitive tactics is something you take as a personal insult.
You have had a good run, with plenty of page views.... As far as I can see you are being your own worst enemy when it comes to the popularity of this thread.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/22 05:24:31
Subject: 45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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MajorTom11 wrote:Your attitude is lousy Buffo
Hmmm... I guess you are another person to whom if I give any kind of retort (including this one) I'll just be validating your comment.
So have this little gun instead!
... and only want your ass kissed...
Could you be the first? I won't tell the boys if you don't.
As far as I can see you are being your own worst enemy when it comes to the popularity of this thread.
You sure you don't want this little gun?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/22 07:22:18
Subject: 45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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I really don't see how playing competitive lists makes reports any better or worse.
I have to agree with Buffo, most people don't go around playing friendly games with cookie cutter spam lists. I don't use "Competitive" lists, my friends don't, and most the people at the clubs I have been to don't either.
So really to say that people aren't commenting on his reps due to the lists not being spam "Competitive builds" is kind of silly. I like the fact that they aren't always spammy, because tbh when I see a Razorspam vs Whatever other spam report it's horribly boring and would sooner put me to sleep than peak my interest.
Great job Buffo, thanks for the reports!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/22 08:16:01
Subject: Re:45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Ultramarine Scout with Sniper Rifle
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Good insight to how they work, keep it up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/22 11:53:42
Subject: Re:45 Games with Dark Eldar
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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1. Stop making up rules and house-ruling things that break the rules to give yourself an advantage since it isn't a fair representation of a unit's ability to do something.
2. Play a competitive list so that people can get a feel for the abilities of the units in the codex and how they work together and against enemies.
3. Play against competitive lists (the big and popular themes that people come to Battle Reports to see strategies for and against).
Your response to any sort of critique of your work has been you literally screaming people out of your thread. Dude, this is as honest and constructive of criticism as I can give you. People WANT to see your batreps - but you need to make them something people want to see: A good DE army fighting a good opponent, and the DE player not cheating. Don't rage at me; just think about it, please? I'd love to see a fellow DE player write batreps that I can enjoy reading too.
I completelly agree with you Dash.
When I pointed this out on bols I got laughed out of the thread by buffo.
He invents the rules to favor him, plays against total noobs (more wins that way) and is acting rude and insulting when facing ANY form of criticism that is not directly praising him and his view only.
As nice as the DE batrep idea is it is executed in a way that does not show how DE handle competitive opponents the slightest.
I also lost all hope of it being improved due to the stubborn self righteous nature of buffo, he is always right and when he is wrong he simply closes his eyes, sticks his head in the sand and puts people on ignore for having the *gasp* audacity to not agree with him.
The one and only fun thing in all this mess is buffo actually complaining and wondering why he only gets 3 replies to his batreps, my oh my, I so wonder why.
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Salamanders W-78 D-55 L-22
Pure Grey Knights W-18 D-10 L-5
Orks W-9 D-6 L-14
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