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So, uh, the terminator/veterans have their traditional gun-halberds and they also have some sort of wrist gun too? Do they combine shots like the Gauntles of Ultramar or something?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Initially was excited for this release but with no word about 30k rules for these guess there's no immediate plans. Interest going down fast. At least that's money saved!

Dude, they said the 30K stuff would get 40K rules with this release. Relax.

Anxiety is warranted. It was said that "some" units would get rules and they were "on the way". I do not like either of these qualifiers. Also FW does not have the best track record of well priced rules compared to GW right now (looking at you contemptor).

The wording on the Castellan axe info interests me: Higher strength, worse AP. "ideal for cleaving heretics in half".

If it's S8 it could be really useful, if it's S7 then it's not really handy over a S6 weapon in most scenarios.

changemod wrote:
The wording on the Castellan axe info interests me: Higher strength, worse AP. "ideal for cleaving heretics in half".

If it's S8 it could be really useful, if it's S7 then it's not really handy over a S6 weapon in most scenarios.

Yeah, I'm hoping that it is St 8. If Valoris's special ax is St. 10, then I think there might be a good chance. At the very least there is a chance of a relic version.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
So, uh, the terminator/veterans have their traditional gun-halberds and they also have some sort of wrist gun too? Do they combine shots like the Gauntles of Ultramar or something?

They're Ballistus Grenade Launchers

 cuda1179 wrote:

changemod wrote:
The wording on the Castellan axe info interests me: Higher strength, worse AP. "ideal for cleaving heretics in half".

If it's S8 it could be really useful, if it's S7 then it's not really handy over a S6 weapon in most scenarios.

Yeah, I'm hoping that it is St 8. If Valoris's special ax is St. 10, then I think there might be a good chance. At the very least there is a chance of a relic version.

S8 is cool but at the cost of worse AP? Kinda lessens its power at killing vehicles which is what we need, especially as it still only does D3 damage (not confirmed, but Valoris's mega axe still does D3...). Will all depend on the points costs I suppose. I still foresee taking the majority of my dudes with Shields in order to survive at least one round of decent shooting, the sentinel blade brings so much to the table.

Spartacus wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:

changemod wrote:
The wording on the Castellan axe info interests me: Higher strength, worse AP. "ideal for cleaving heretics in half".

If it's S8 it could be really useful, if it's S7 then it's not really handy over a S6 weapon in most scenarios.

Yeah, I'm hoping that it is St 8. If Valoris's special ax is St. 10, then I think there might be a good chance. At the very least there is a chance of a relic version.

S8 is cool but at the cost of worse AP? Kinda lessens its power at killing vehicles which is what we need, especially as it still only does D3 damage (not confirmed, but Valoris's mega axe still does D3...). Will all depend on the points costs I suppose. I still foresee taking the majority of my dudes with Shields in order to survive at least one round of decent shooting, the sentinel blade brings so much to the table.

Yes exactly. I hope GW makes the spear a viable option.

 Darkwrath121 wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
So, uh, the terminator/veterans have their traditional gun-halberds and they also have some sort of wrist gun too? Do they combine shots like the Gauntles of Ultramar or something?

They're Ballistus Grenade Launchers

we know what those'll do? damn, this release has been pretty leak free.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Darkwrath121 wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
So, uh, the terminator/veterans have their traditional gun-halberds and they also have some sort of wrist gun too? Do they combine shots like the Gauntles of Ultramar or something?

They're Ballistus Grenade Launchers

we know what those'll do? damn, this release has been pretty leak free.

Nah. There's been a lot of supposed leaks on FB. But I'm chugging my salt. We'll know by tomorrow if the leaks are real

If not, doesn't change much.

And nah, no rules for those launchers. Just horde killer stuff and krak I'd say :p

Why have none of those possible leaks been reported here?

changemod wrote:
Why have none of those possible leaks been reported here?

It might distract from all the complaints?

 Darkwrath121 wrote:

And nah, no rules for those launchers. Just horde killer stuff and krak I'd say :p

Oh no not multiple firing modes, they'll cost as much as lascannons!

The ForgeWorld guys only heard about doing the 30k -> 40k Custodes rules when we did, apparently someone in Community got carried away...

changemod wrote:
Why have none of those possible leaks been reported here?

No clue actually. We've been posting them on other sites. They're originally from the Talons of the Emperor 30k 40k FB group]

Edit. Finally got the right link. Oops.
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/342858-a-whole-lot-of-goldwhite-dwarf-feb-2018/page-7

I had a feeling they might bring the old 7th ed. formation back as the Custodes faction bonus, which I think used to be re-roll invuln saves of 1. +1 to invulns is not quite as awesome but decent if true.

Also makes full storm shield squads a bit less appealing again, when spearmen get a 4+ invuln anyway.

DaemonJellybaby wrote:
The ForgeWorld guys only heard about doing the 30k -> 40k Custodes rules when we did, apparently someone in Community got carried away...

Woah. Where'd you see this?

Spartacus wrote:
I had a feeling they might bring the old 7th ed. formation back as the Custodes faction bonus, which I think used to be re-roll invuln saves of 1. +1 to invulns is not quite as awesome but decent if true.

Also makes full storm shield squads a bit less appealing again, when spearmen get a 4+ invuln anyway.

I was thinking this too, but it does still seem significant if you look at it as a percentage. Innate spears are 50% chance to negate with that bonus. Shields are 66.6%.

If Terminators are 4++ innately and become 3++ then that's huge too though.

Personally I'll keep using swords on troops anyway cause they're infinitely cooler looking.

Audustum wrote:

Personally I'll keep using swords on troops anyway cause they're infinitely cooler looking.

They look like gigantic shovels!

 Crimson wrote:

Audustum wrote:

Personally I'll keep using swords on troops anyway cause they're infinitely cooler looking.

They look like gigantic shovels!

Wouldn't try digging with them though.

 Crimson wrote:

Audustum wrote:

Personally I'll keep using swords on troops anyway cause they're infinitely cooler looking.

They look like gigantic shovels!

yeah more a fan of the spear myself. if we can use guardian spears with a 4++ I'll be happy as a clam

Lets us use spears with shields please, they look 10 times better...

 Darkwrath121 wrote:

changemod wrote:
Why have none of those possible leaks been reported here?

No clue actually. We've been posting them on other sites. They're originally from the Talons of the Emperor 30k 40k FB group]

Edit. Finally got the right link. Oops.
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/342858-a-whole-lot-of-goldwhite-dwarf-feb-2018/page-7

I'm okay with that army wide rule. Hell, those Stratagems are very interesting. Turning all your terminators into single mad squads would allow you to hide quite a few characters as you run up.

From the looks of it, there will be a better platform to put the Custodes Vexilla on in the form of the Vexillus Praetor. Which kinda allows me some freedom with my squads. That is an extra Sentinel Blade for me. I hope they improve the Custodes Guardian Spear too. I don't want all Swords.

That is a fairly impressive tactic, it's a little odd with the shields though. Also, tsons are going to be jelly if they don't get it.

We won't know if it's real until tomorrow. So I'm ready for disappointment

 Crimson wrote:

Audustum wrote:

Personally I'll keep using swords on troops anyway cause they're infinitely cooler looking.

They look like gigantic shovels!

Dig the grave after killing the heretic!

Audustum wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

Audustum wrote:

Personally I'll keep using swords on troops anyway cause they're infinitely cooler looking.

They look like gigantic shovels!

Dig the grave after killing the heretic!

I think playing Darksouls or Bloodbourne is a bit of a prerequisite to fully appreciate the aesthetic of Custodes weapons and armour

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
From the looks of it, there will be a better platform to put the Custodes Vexilla on in the form of the Vexillus Praetor. Which kinda allows me some freedom with my squads. That is an extra Sentinel Blade for me. I hope they improve the Custodes Guardian Spear too. I don't want all Swords.

the only issue with the spear is losing the save. if you can get a 4++ save irregardless the guardian spear might be worth while. which means you'll have a case of when deploying custdoes as a single unit in a soup list you take sheilds. whereas when fighting as part of a army, spears

Personally, I've always been a fan of mixed squads. 1/3 of the guys with shields to tank the wounds, 2/3 of them with spears to be extra killy.

Spartacus wrote:

Audustum wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

Audustum wrote:

Personally I'll keep using swords on troops anyway cause they're infinitely cooler looking.

They look like gigantic shovels!

Dig the grave after killing the heretic!

I think playing Darksouls or Bloodbourne is a bit of a prerequisite to fully appreciate the aesthetic of Custodes weapons and armour

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