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Should we be surprised by the lack of a "Dominus" or "Armigers" entry on the price list?

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This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

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 Dysartes wrote:
Should we be surprised by the lack of a "Dominus" or "Armigers" entry on the price list?


I'd say so, this nearly never happens. Can only assume this had been factored into the last price review.
   
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Dudeface wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
Should we be surprised by the lack of a "Dominus" or "Armigers" entry on the price list?


I'd say so, this nearly never happens. Can only assume this had been factored into the last price review.
If this is the case, one can dream, wahey!

 DaveC wrote:
Chaos Kinights Army set £160 €212 $270*
Codex Imperial Knights £32.50 €42.50
Imperial Knights Data cards £17 €22

*$ price based on similar price items on the online store may differ.
Cheers for sharing, here's hoping I can secure a box, but chances are nope.



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I was planning on buying 3 boxes but if the price is really 270 i might just get 1 or 2

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What the hell kinda price band is 212€

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Sadly not shocked by the price of the Chaos boxed set.

Knight is a £100+ miniature, Armiger equivalents are £47.50 + then throw in nigh on £50 of codex and datacards and the UK price of the box still represents 20% saving in terms of GWs direct pricing.

You may have to be quick off the mark if you want 20% off from you online or FLGS.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
What the hell kinda price band is 212€


I believe GW had a 190€ or 195€ price band before that they rarely used. I want to say things like Knight Renegade and that Necromund box with the Enforcers and Khornates, but my memory may be playing tricks on me. Wither way, this would be the new and improved version of it. Basically the equivalent to 175€ (previously 160€) army boxes for the the few items that are so hilariously priced individually that GW can't put them in the standard priced boxes without giving a better discount than other such boxes.

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The Black Templar box hardly flew off the shelves. Seems the latest FOMO stuff doesn't vanish instantly these days, maybe due to larger production runs and MTO shedding the scalpers.
   
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Armigers and Dominus Knight actually are on the price list just not with the new releases for some reason:


UK:


Euro:



So Armigers go up £5 / 5€ and Dominus stays the same

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 Matrindur wrote:
Armigers and Dominus Knight actually are on the price list just not with the new releases for some reason:

Spoiler:

UK:


Euro:



So Armigers go up £5 / 5€ and Dominus stays the same


Well colour me surprised at that. Especially the Dominus staying the same price. So GW now they are all in same box, how about letting us mix and match weapons?
   
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 Arbitrator wrote:
The Black Templar box hardly flew off the shelves. Seems the latest FOMO stuff doesn't vanish instantly these days, maybe due to larger production runs and MTO shedding the scalpers.


Seeing you were quaranteed to get that box it wasn't fomo and scalpers had no interest in getting. Who buys over rpp from scalper when he is quaranteed to get one at normal price?

Positive surprise on repack prices.

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£52.50 is okay. With magnets, thats still a Lord of War for £26.25 with all its weapon options. To be fair the Armiger overshadows most GW models selling for £25 these days...

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Now it's in the Chaos Marine thread.

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Pretty cool cover though.
   
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Ouch on the Armigers, thank whatever for the Dominus not getting even more slapped on, that was already a flat €10,- increase on that one. Armigers though, €7,50 with both increases added together.

Again, ouch.



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 BrookM wrote:
Ouch on the Armigers, thank whatever for the Dominus not getting even more slapped on, that was already a flat €10,- increase on that one. Armigers though, €7,50 with both increases added together.

Again, ouch.


Well previous was worse. This actually saves money for players ds you need less armigers.

(and improved look)

Would have prefered this when i knight army

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tneva82 wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
Ouch on the Armigers, thank whatever for the Dominus not getting even more slapped on, that was already a flat €10,- increase on that one. Armigers though, €7,50 with both increases added together.

Again, ouch.


Well previous was worse. This actually saves money for players ds you need less armigers.

(and improved look)

Would have prefered this when i knight army
Agreed same here, had to buy all boxes to get the parts I wanted for my Questoris army, because nope, there weren't any reliable bits services around then that had what I wanted. On the bright side, still sitting on some partially assembled Knights and squires at this point.



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Just curious, but do they still have Blackshield Houses in 40K?

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Just curious, but do they still have Blackshield Houses in 40K?


Not that I've seen, but wouldn't say they can't exist, especially with the galaxy split.

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SM Blackshields are exclusive to the 30k setting I don't see why Knights would be different.
   
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Damn, thats a full $25 more than I expected.

I'm beginning to think its not worth it to buy more than 1 though, seems the boxes are priced higher than the value of the miniatures content (whereas before they were break-even). If the Dominus is 170 and the Armigers are 85, then that comes out to 255. I would think that the new War Dogs would be priced the same as the Armigers and the Knight Abominant would be cheaper than a Dominus.... unless they aren't?

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We're full into the high-price stage of the GW economic cycle.

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We are currently in the "holy hell, I feel like I'm being ripped off" stage right now...

It's happened before and it also made my GW expenditure drop to zero each month. That was just before the time where they started doing "new GW" profiling... You can only hope it starts hurting their bottom line at some point.

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It already is, but slow-grow problems generally need to hit a certain critical mass before they are acted upon. That's just a human thing, the funny part is how GW already did this less than a decade ago; usually it takes people longer than that to forget their mistakes.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It already is, but slow-grow problems generally need to hit a certain critical mass before they are acted upon. That's just a human thing, the funny part is how GW already did this less than a decade ago; usually it takes people longer than that to forget their mistakes.


Forget their mistakes? I'm pretty sure they've learned that they can gouge prices to feth and back and still be okay in the long run.

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Well, nice of them to bundle all the armiger sprues together for not too much of a price hike. I wanted some of their warglaive bits for conversions, but could never justify the price when it would mean having unusable knights. Now I can just build them as helverins.
I still can't justify it now, but I might be able to lie to myself enough to go through with it.
   
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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It already is, but slow-grow problems generally need to hit a certain critical mass before they are acted upon. That's just a human thing, the funny part is how GW already did this less than a decade ago; usually it takes people longer than that to forget their mistakes.


Forget their mistakes? I'm pretty sure they've learned that they can gouge prices to feth and back and still be okay in the long run.
Yet the year with the most price cuts in GWs history was also the best year their stock ever had. We've seen time and again that the story about legions of GW die-hards who will buy no matter what is just that--a story. The concept has never been true, not for GW, not for any other company, at any point in history, ever. Because that just isn't how price vs demand works.

But what is true? The less competition something has the more self-destructive it becomes. It is true of species, it is true of corporations.

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And yet they keep increasing their profit.

There's more to how many kits you sell. Less kits sold at higher profit margin can be more profitable than more at lower profit margin. If you sell 10 kits at 100 it's notably more profitable than 30 kits at 20.

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tneva82 wrote:
And yet they keep increasing their profit.

There's more to how many kits you sell. Less kits sold at higher profit margin can be more profitable than more at lower profit margin. If you sell 10 kits at 100 it's notably more profitable than 30 kits at 20.
It's almost like they still sell those reduced price models for considerably less than they were at launch even after multiple board-wide price increases.

And that not all of new kits are absurdly priced to begin with. It's still GW shotgun pricing after all.

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