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xerxeskingofking wrote:
they DO mention its shields, but they clearly are struggling to deal with the attacks as they've been loosing engines already at that point. it might be a case the sheilds are less effective in atmosphere, or just plain old Plot Armour. Then again, we rarely see star wars shields do much more than stop one or two shots most of the time, so its not beyond the norm.

Ship shields in Star Wars do, in general, look fairly weak. For a pirate ship like the one shown, It would seem to be quite well armed for its size so it probably doesn't have great shield since the energy used for the shields are probably used for the weapons and the thrust capacity too. If I were a pirate ship, I would priories speed and firepower over defensive characteristics like shields or armor. Attacking the engines is probably also the weak spot, especially in atmosphere it would lead to a crash and more of the ship's energy is probably diverted to keep the ship in the air instead than on the shields, weapons and sensors. I bet those ships are at their weakest when in the atmosphere. I would have expected the Mandalorians to actually board and capture the ship though and it to be useful against that mysterious imperial warlord.

Shields depend.

It could be as you say they had diverted power to weapons - and it was Bo Katan and Din catching them with their pants down that prevented a rejig of what was feeding into where.

The ship definitely seems overgunned for its comparatively small size, so I figure the risk accepted is “our lower shield output won’t matter because we’re either not facing a threat, or can reliably fend them off”

Diverted power to weapons... the weapons that were firing warheads?

Still use power. Plus Repulsor lifts and engines for atmosphere? Can’t imagine they’re light on power requirements.

Why would something that fires self-propelled warheads need extra power? How would the weapon even benefit from such a boost?

God... I'm suddenly reminded of the 200th episode of SG-1.

"How exactly is having weapons at maximum going to help the situation?"
"The audience isn't going to know the difference; they love weapons at maximum!"

Targetting, trajectory, even priming. I’m not familiar with SW projectile weapons though.

Could just be the shields a crap.

Doesn’t really matter in the end. The only defenses that do are plot armor.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
On that Pirate Cruiser?

Absolutely love the overall design. It’s compact, and pretty well armed and suited to its purpose.

At first I was a bit “but why kinetic weapons” for the underslung batteries. But given they seem dedicated bombardment guns, and the ships relatively small size (small than a CR-90 perhaps?) it may very well be to pack in maximum firepower without draining too much power.

And whilst I know this will probably annoy some when I point it out? That’s another canonical example of No Ship Shields whilst within an atmosphere, matching the Final Order’s issue over Exegol. And now I think about it? I can’t immediately think of something in the New Canon where a ship’s shields are seen to work in atmosphere? Though granted for that to be a conclusion I’d need an encyclopaedic knowledge of Clone Wars and Rebels etc. So as ever, happy to be proven wrong with relevant, new canon examples.

I seem to remember the pirate bosun saying the shields were depleted after a couple strafing passes, actually.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Diverted power to weapons... the weapons that were firing warheads?

Except they also clearly had a bunch of laser cannons on top of the ship in addition to the underbelly guns. Plus, even their solid ammunitions require energy for moving the turrets and their targetting systems. Even if Star Wars weapon system are archaic by a futuristic standard, they are not completely analogue either.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Why would something that fires self-propelled warheads need extra power? How would the weapon even benefit from such a boost?

God... I'm suddenly reminded of the 200th episode of SG-1.

"How exactly is having weapons at maximum going to help the situation?"
"The audience isn't going to know the difference; they love weapons at maximum!"

I mean, they sure got that right.

 AduroT wrote:
Doesn’t really matter in the end. The only defenses that do are plot armor.

Star Wars armor in a nutshell.

Mandalorian:

Since when can the elite battle droids move that fast?!

Kind of bummed the cause was what it was. I was hoping for a droid rights thing instead of the heck yeah we love being slaves thing.

Well, that was the closest thing to a Live Action Clone Wars episode, and I’m here for it.

Super Battle Droid actually feeling threatening for once.

Roll on the next Chapter.

Oh, I didn’t realize Bad Batch last week was the season finale. That was a rather disappointing season overall. It was just starting to get interesting and have things happen.

And here I was thinking we were done with side quests. *sigh*

And stunt casting. Cool...

 AduroT wrote:
That was a rather disappointing season overall. It was just starting to get interesting and have things happen.

Taken out of context this could almost apply to literally any D+ show (SW or Marvel).

 AduroT wrote:
Oh, I didn’t realize Bad Batch last week was the season finale. That was a rather disappointing season overall. It was just starting to get interesting and have things happen.

Yeah, I had the same reaction. It wants to be an Empire Strikes Back feeling cliffhanger ending, but it didn't feel like a cliffhanger really. I only noticed when I went back to the episode list to see how many more there were and saw both season 1 and 2 were at 16 episodes.

Latest episode of the Mandalorian was a bit weird. The "Star Wars themed police procedural" was not bad in and on itself, but I was surprised that the reason why the droids were going rogue wasn't due to some Imperial machination like the show had hinted in episode 3 and 5. Instead we had a former Separatist popping up which does show how much the Galaxy has turned into a shitshow following the fall of the Empire, but is not relevent to the comming season final (and we already knew very well that the galaxy was in chaos).

I was not surprised that Bo-Katan would end up with the darksaber again, but I expect it to change hands again before the end of season 4. In fact, I am unsure that Bo will survive the end of season 3.

So far season three seems to suffer from the episode 2 syndrom of a trilogy as it seems to be spending a lot of time building and foreshadowing things that will happen only in the following season.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And here I was thinking we were done with side quests. *sigh*

It is kind of remarkable how the main quest advancement in the last four episodes happened in the last two or so minutes of each one.

epronovost wrote:
So far season three seems to suffer from the episode 2 syndrom of a trilogy as it seems to be spending a lot of time building and foreshadowing things that will happen only in the following season.

It's in good company then since we just got that with Bad Batch.

 Geifer wrote:

It's in good company then since we just got that with Bad Batch.

I think it's much worst in Bad Batch, maybe it's because there is going to be twice more episodes of the Bad Batch than the Mandalorian. At least, there was plot relevent elements in all episodes so far, but yes, episode 3 and now 6 were mostly filled with adventures without any payout (yet). Episode 4 did looked like a filler episode, but it had an important payout in episode 5.

You know, I'll be generous this week.

This episode of Mandalorian wasn't bad.

It was a decent episodes. Actually maybe the, in a bottle, best episode of Season 3 even.

The problem is that the rest of season 3 has been so aimless and disappointing, I have no patience for a bottle episode. Not even a good one.

This episode has the misfortune of arriving at a point in the season/show when it's just not the episode we wanted.

Seeing Lizzo and Jack Black looking like themselves was enough to pull me right out of whatever story they were trying to tell with this. Usually cameos are subtle and less distracting. Andor was actually pretty immersive in comparison.

They'll probably greenlight this for one final season and move on as the ratings are in decline.

Not sure if it is fair to compare viewing figures with season 2 (October 2020) when the World was in various stages of pandemic lockdowns.

That said this season has just felt a bit off to me, and I am not really sure why. Also given his more recent interactions with Droids like IG 11 and R5D4 wasn't Mando's eagerness to kick off with the various droids a bit misplaced? But the way he booted the Super Battle Droids was hilarious.

Different droids one could argue. His general dislike might be gone but the hatred of the droids that burned his home and killed his family isn't likely to go away.

Did they ever actually give the guy's reasons?

I was at work today and just random thought 'wait, why did he do what he did?'

People were lazy and he was annoyed at that. Basically opposed to the society that was built post-Empire.

Star Wars needs Lizzo and Jack Black cameos like I need anal polyps. Yeah, both are talented, but I still dislike them and don't think they fit in barely disguised roles.
At least Bill Burr plays against the type somewhat and Sasha Banks actually looks like she could break your neck.

Edit: It feels like the show was really a backdoor for the redemption of Bo-Katan.

Oooh. Revealed at Star Wars Celebration.

The return of the best Star Wars character of all time, David Tennant Lightsaber Droid.

It’s a moments like these I’m reminded how poorly they removed Asajj Ventriss from the story.

As a former Jedi and former Sith, if they’d saved her in the background for something like Ahsoka, and not killed her off for mangst we could’ve seen her and Ahsoka found their own force user academy, one based in keeping balance in the Force, rather than the failed ultra-Puritan Sith and Jedi approaches.

But no. She had to die. For mangst.

Moar news

The James Mangold one sounds promising.

The Dave Filoni one sounds awful. I can't wait to see how much Starwars Street he can cram into a feature film.

Rey could go either way. Finally get a decent story or be complete gak.