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So after a few beers my girl and I got into a LOTR vs Harry Potter debate (No debate here just got to keep her happy). So something really bothered me about those books. No one tried to shoot Harry or Voldermort. Now Johnny you may say it is because they did not have guns but in the 1st and 3rd book they talk about shotguns. It just bothered me that everyone is pointing sticks at everyone else when a good proper boomstick could of made 7 books one little book.

Anywho what are some things in books and movies that just bugged you in some way shape or form?


Drunk thread away!!!

Twight (yeah I said it) when Edward reveals what he is. I'm sorry, but Meyer wrote one good scene in an entire book of dribble and the movie turned it into crap (well... I did laugh really really really hard but I laughed through the whole movie cause it was awful). I hate the series but I think that scene was a genuinely touching moment and about the only part of all four books thats actually worth reading. YOu'd think transitioning it to the big screen wouldn't be that hard.

EDIT: Actually maybe I should amend this to the entire series could have been better. The Host actually wasn't that bad, so I'm not sure why the Twilight saga amounted to so much... crap

The time turner can save the life of a hippogriff, but not Harry's parents.

This means either every character in the series is an idiot, Harry's parents are offered up as sacrifices to Voldemort in order to facilitate his death, or that Dumbledore is too much of a bitch to face him and go about finding the Horcruxes after killing him.

And, before anyone says that it would have been too risky for Dumbledore to put himself in jeopardy: time turner.

And, as to the guns in Harry Potter thing.

dogma wrote:The time turner can save the life of a hippogriff, but not Harry's parents.

This means either every character in the series is an idiot, Harry's parents are offered up as sacrifices to Voldemort in order to facilitate his death, or that Dumbledore is too much of a bitch to face him and go about finding the Horcruxes after killing him.

And, before anyone says that it would have been too risky for Dumbledore to put himself in jeopardy: time turner.

And, as to the guns in Harry Potter thing.

Seems like an appropriate youtube vid to post.

I lol'ed.

*Spoiler warning*

As Burt Gummer would say, any problem can be solved with the proper application of high explosives.

dogma wrote:The time turner can save the life of a hippogriff, but not Harry's parents.

This means either every character in the series is an idiot, Harry's parents are offered up as sacrifices to Voldemort in order to facilitate his death, or that Dumbledore is too much of a bitch to face him and go about finding the Horcruxes after killing him.

And, before anyone says that it would have been too risky for Dumbledore to put himself in jeopardy: time turner.

And, as to the guns in Harry Potter thing.

OR they could have gone back in time and well do alot of stuff with the time turner. Thats why at will time travel(unless part of the movie plot itself) ruins movies.

Johnny-Crass wrote:So after a few beers my girl and I got into a LOTR vs Harry Potter debate (No debate here just got to keep her happy). So something really bothered me about those books. No one tried to shoot Harry or Voldermort. Now Johnny you may say it is because they did not have guns but in the 1st and 3rd book they talk about shotguns. It just bothered me that everyone is pointing sticks at everyone else when a good proper boomstick could of made 7 books one little book.

Anywho what are some things in books and movies that just bugged you in some way shape or form?


Drunk thread away!!!

I was forced to go to the last Harry Potter movie. When the bad guys (?) attacked the school I could saying "where's the Arc Light mission? B52s where are you?" both The Wife and Future Empress of All Mankind beat me about the had and face.

When Darth Maul has his derp moment after kicking the living gak out of 2 highly trained/skilled Jedi AT THE SAME TIME, and allows Obi Wan to leap over him, flip, lightsaber grab and chop him in twain. I just dont get that.....ever.....doesnt make sense. I like Obi Wan as much as the next guy, but cmon, he was done for Lucas.

KingCracker wrote:When Darth Maul has his derp moment after kicking the living gak out of 2 highly trained/skilled Jedi AT THE SAME TIME, and allows Obi Wan to leap over him, flip, lightsaber grab and chop him in twain. I just dont get that.....ever.....doesnt make sense. I like Obi Wan as much as the next guy, but cmon, he was done for Lucas.

Not only that, but he's got Obi-Wan juuuuuust where he wants him, dangling over a pit of doom, and what does the guy do? Stand there and make sparks at him. Doesn't kick Qui-Gon's lightsaber over the edge so Obi-Wan can't grab it, doesn't just reach down and stab Obi-Wan's fingers (or hell, force lightning him) to make him drop to his doom, he stands above him and tries to knock him off with the awesome power of sparks from his lightsaber.

Yea, the sudden dumbness that pours from an uptill then, super fething hardass, is just staggering.

HA!!!!!!!!!!!! I present to you, foul Jedi Knight, SITHSPARKLES! *sparkles sparkles sparkles*

I think the giant snake in Ator the Fighting Eagle could have been done better.

Simple fix for Twilight. Call Edward and company what they really are.

Living in the forest? Playing games? Seducing mortal girls? Feeding on animal blood? SPARKLING IN THE SUN!?! They're not Vampires, they're Faeries. And not the Disney-friendly faeries either, we're talking the Seelie/Unseelie Court and dark acts of venegence that makes Vlad look like an amateur.

It's about time the modern world remembered 'Faerie' has a deeper meaning than Tinkerbell or a derogative term for a homosexual, and it would have fit the books much better than trying to shoehorn Vampires into the role, Anne Rice notwithstanding.


Edit: Easy fix for Harry Potter? While Dad slows big bad down for a moment, mom pulls out a shotgun and lets him have it. BOOM <clack-clik> BOOM <clack-clik> BOOM <clack-clik> BOOM.

Done.

Fixing the Star Wars Prequels? Well, back around 1990 someone does the same to George Lucas. BOOM <clack-clik> BOOM <clack-clik> BOOM <clack-clik> BOOM. No more Jar-Jar, no more Count Dookie, no more Emo Vader. For that matter, no more 'Han Shot First' debate, no 'Pimp Daddy Fett'... all sorts of issues get fixed that way.

Vulcan wrote:It's about time the modern world remembered 'Faerie' has a deeper meaning than Tinkerbell or a derogative term for a homosexual, and it would have fit the books much better than trying to shoehorn Vampires into the role, Anne Rice notwithstanding.

There actually has been an upsurge in recent media with a more traditional portrayal of Fae folk.

Vulcan wrote:Simple fix for Twilight. Call Edward and company what they really are.

Living in the forest? Playing games? Seducing mortal girls? Feeding on animal blood? SPARKLING IN THE SUN!?! They're not Vampires, they're Faeries. And not the Disney-friendly faeries either, we're talking the Seelie/Unseelie Court and dark acts of venegence that makes Vlad look like an amateur.

It's about time the modern world remembered 'Faerie' has a deeper meaning than Tinkerbell or a derogative term for a homosexual, and it would have fit the books much better than trying to shoehorn Vampires into the role, Anne Rice notwithstanding.

Alternately, instead of everything turning out happily ever after for the couple, change the ending so that Bella realises the magnitude of her mistake.
She didn't love Edward after all, that was lust. All the friends and family she disregarded were right to tell her to think again.
Now she's a monster, cursed to a half-life with a man she has no real feelings for.
At least then when people say things like "It's the modern Romeo and Juliet!" they wouldn't be completely wrong.

Or just write a better book with fewer plot devices... Or main characters with redeeming qualities (Bella and Edward really don't have any EDIT: Its ironic that a mary sue character can come out being so atrociously filled with character flaws). Oh and far fewer instances of the word 'cringed.'

That bit at the end of Return of the Jedi where The Emperor is killing Luke with his Sith lightning. It always bugged me that I couldn't understand Vader's motivations, he never says anything. Did he pick up the Emperor by accident or on purpose or what? That scene was weak and confused.

Now when Vader finds out that Padama... Padmad... that chick, has died at the end of episode III we know exactly how Vader feels. That scene is so much more convincing and well directed to me.

They should put some dialogue in that scene in RotJ, something like this:

Honestly, I think the end of Prince of Persia would have been much better if they had gone with how the game went; The princess is about to fall to her death with the dagger in her hand, the prince grabs at her, grabs the blade of the dagger, and ends up having to let go because of his hand being cut. Then the vizir comes in, promising him power, and he refuses.

That actually would have been a pretty sick awesome ending.

The entire ending of Prince of Persia (cel-shaded) was really really weak. Not going to spoil it, but lets just say you spend ten to fifteen hours trying to save the word and in the end it all becomes extremely pointless.

LordofHats wrote:That actually would have been a pretty sick awesome ending.

The entire ending of Prince of Persia (cel-shaded) was really really weak. Not going to spoil it, but lets just say you spend ten to fifteen hours trying to save the word and in the end it all becomes extremely pointless.

That's not as disappointing as the Epilogue; after some very terrible dialogue ("Oh long till we get out of here?" "As soon as we get out of here." "well, let's get out of here!"), the ending is god AWEFULL.

All of Return of the Jedi. It was the beginning of the end.

Amaya wrote:All of Return of the Jedi. It was the beginning of the end.

Yeah I know. For instance, they could have actually shown how Jabba's assistants got Leia into that bikini. Such a shame Lucas, such a shame.

Locclo wrote:

KingCracker wrote:When Darth Maul has his derp moment after kicking the living gak out of 2 highly trained/skilled Jedi AT THE SAME TIME, and allows Obi Wan to leap over him, flip, lightsaber grab and chop him in twain. I just dont get that.....ever.....doesnt make sense. I like Obi Wan as much as the next guy, but cmon, he was done for Lucas.

Not only that, but he's got Obi-Wan juuuuuust where he wants him, dangling over a pit of doom, and what does the guy do? Stand there and make sparks at him. Doesn't kick Qui-Gon's lightsaber over the edge so Obi-Wan can't grab it, doesn't just reach down and stab Obi-Wan's fingers (or hell, force lightning him) to make him drop to his doom, he stands above him and tries to knock him off with the awesome power of sparks from his lightsaber.

And it doesnt fit his character. He was the furthest thing from a show off.

Avatar the Last Airbender - Everything

Avatar - Everything as well, but with more nukes.

George Spiggott wrote:That bit at the end of Return of the Jedi where The Emperor is killing Luke with his Sith lightning. It always bugged me that I couldn't understand Vader's motivations, he never says anything. Did he pick up the Emperor by accident or on purpose or what? That scene was weak and confused.

Now when Vader finds out that Padama... Padmad... that chick, has died at the end of episode III we know exactly how Vader feels. That scene is so much more convincing and well directed to me.

They should put some dialogue in that scene in RotJ, something like this:

Haha.. very good

The sad thing is you read arguments like that on some movie forums.

The end of the Danny Boyle Movie 'Sunshine'.

Kirk's death in Star Trek Generations: The greatest starfleet captain ever; saves the earth, feared and hated by klingons, loved by green women everywhere. His final act should have been piloting an exploding enterprise into the heart of a Klingon fleet (with his trademark wry/slightly pained smiling expression), and saving the day. Not falling off a bridge after a slapping contest with Malcolm McDowell, then looking like he was about to say something the moment before he died.

Lost - any ending that didn't evoke a feeling of utter betrayal and anger following such a cop-out plot and the years spent watching the series. At least Dallas never had pretensions of being anything other than a daytime soap.

What even happened with Lost, anyway? What was the plot ending?

Pacific wrote:Haha.. very good

The new Battlestar Galactica ( Cattlecar Exlaxtica ) series, All of it, every last bit of it....

Zakiriel wrote:The new Battlestar Galactica ( Cattlecar Exlaxtica ) series, All of it, every last bit of it....

The first two seasons of BG I think were pretty good. Then season 3 happened... and then season 4... and then I was like WTF?

Lost lost it with the last two seasons, man. It kinda felt like it was leading up to something, but then... tis a cryin' shame.

hotsauceman1 wrote:

Locclo wrote:

KingCracker wrote:When Darth Maul has his derp moment after kicking the living gak out of 2 highly trained/skilled Jedi AT THE SAME TIME, and allows Obi Wan to leap over him, flip, lightsaber grab and chop him in twain. I just dont get that.....ever.....doesnt make sense. I like Obi Wan as much as the next guy, but cmon, he was done for Lucas.

Not only that, but he's got Obi-Wan juuuuuust where he wants him, dangling over a pit of doom, and what does the guy do? Stand there and make sparks at him. Doesn't kick Qui-Gon's lightsaber over the edge so Obi-Wan can't grab it, doesn't just reach down and stab Obi-Wan's fingers (or hell, force lightning him) to make him drop to his doom, he stands above him and tries to knock him off with the awesome power of sparks from his lightsaber.

And it doesnt fit his character. He was the furthest thing from a show off.

Agreed completely. He was just strait to the point, emotionless and hardcore. Thats not words I use to describe a show off.