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So i have finally figured out what kind of army i am going for with my CSM dudes, and i really like the flavor of the bare bones 999pts that i have so far, i think it will be more of an everyday battle fun army, but i'll take it to tourneys as well for some fun. It does however need polishing for a decent playable feel. The tournaments i will be playing in will be a 1200 and 750pts and i have a 999pt list...so there is definitely room for some polishing. I doubt it will be all that competative but i think it will look awesome and play well regardless, so the list is:

HQ
Fabius Bile
Typhus

ELITES
4x Termis
w/ Mark of Nurgle
reaper autocannon

2x Dreads
w/ plasma
twin linked auto cannon
and both with heavy flamers

TROOPS
8x CSM
w/ flamer
biles enhancement
icon of slaanesh
rhino

so as you may see, i will put bile with the troops and run him around with the rhino while typhus sticks with the termis and deep strikes in. and the 2 dreads just walk along and cause funny things on the table...probably far away from the rest of my force lol.

Anyway thats the base of the army and i'm a little stuck on how to bring it up to a well rounded 1200pts or and this is the harder part, skale it down to 750pts.
The only limitations are that Bile and Typhus must stay and therefore a unit of troops and termis that they will go with (as they will be themed together nicelly) but mostly everythign else like loadout other units and things are free to play around with. i guess putting in a few oblits for a 1200 pt would be a good start and follow the theme nicelly?

let me know what you think/opinions or what you might consider altering, i'm more interested in the 1200pt ideas as i will probably jsut drop the dreads for a 750pt list.

Now I'm no expert but don't you need 2 troops choices?

Typhon the Storm Giant wrote:Now I'm no expert but don't you need 2 troops choices?

Those were my thoughts.

Also, those two HQ seem a little pricey for a 1k list.

Yeah you have to have 2 troop choices.
So for the higher points add a second troop. But, and this is going to be a bit harsh, you'll never win with this. You simply cannot afford two HQs at 1000 (and especially not at 750), when those HQs are costing 170ish (Fabius, can't remember exact points i've never used him) and 225 for Typhus.
Shooty Dreads aren't the best choice for Chaos unfortunately, you have a 1/3 chance they are either going to not get to shoot, or will shoot one of your own units (unless you are luckily close to an enemy unit), if you go with 2xCCW dreads, then its only a 1/6 chance they will be badly effected (stop and shoot, if you get run towards the enemy, well thats what you want to do).

Basically, at 750, you can't afford the HQs, the MoN termies, 2 (shooty) Dreads and enhanced CSMs, everything there I would say is too expensive for the points level. You want a cheap HQ, a Daemon Prince, Lord or Sorcerer or even Kharn. A couple troop squads, and then something that packs a punch, Oblits or Defiler or maybe even Chosen.
At 1200 you could probably afford Typhus or Fabius, but it'd be a struggle as they are both average.

I've just re-read you post, and see you say Bile and Typhus must stay, well I don't think I can help you then. Sorry to be very harsh, but at 750 your going to lose every single game, and at 1200 your going to lose nearly every game. The Chaos codex isn't great anymore, its still good and you can win with it, but it does require some fairly careful building, good tactics, luck and knowing what your doing.

Yeah i know i need 2 troops choices...this was like a base army idea with the flavor i wanted, i'll find a way to put in additional troops.

The codex is rather uninspiring i agree and yeah i suppose by going with a look fluff army it will not be the best idea..

I don't mind the harshness at all, it's more like experience talking, you can see how things will turn out where as i can't so i appreciate your input, i have looked at some typical csm lists...and they all scream boring to me, every one has the same list (give or take) but i guess thats for the reasons you have mentioned.

i think i will drop the dreads and the icons + enhancements and run a more (numbers) vanilla csm list, add chosen and oblits and just pretend it was fluf lol. i'll see what i come up with.

cheerz for the input guys...

Okay so i have shuffled a few things around and i have come up with a more focused list:

HQ
Fabius Bile
Typhus

TROOPS
10x CSM
2x Flamer
Rhino with Twin-Linked Bolter

10x CSM
2x Flamer
Rhino with Havoc Launcher

ELITES
5x Termis
1x Reaper Autocannon
4x Combi-Melta

5x Chosen
2x Plasma
2x Melta
1x Autocannon
Rhino with Havoc Launcher

I could drop the extra rhino and Havoc Launchers for an Oblit...but havign just 1 feels like a 'spot kill' unit. Does this look a bit more playable and not as insta loose?

Another person saying every Chaos player has the same list... Well if the majority of Chaos lists your seeing are the same, thats because they are just web lists, people posting lists wanting to win tournaments, look at the lists I have posted on here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/431831.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/413370.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/380229.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/368802.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/368619.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/359662.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/344019.page

There all completely different, and I run lists like that. The Abaddon one, the one without the Oblits, is the one I run most frequently (or did, I changed it a bit), and other lists like the Walker/Chaos zilla one and the DS termie one, are lists that I planned on running but just haven't got round to getting all the stuff I need... And as I just posted in another thread, all but one Chaos army i've seen in three years have been themed in some way, I've only seen one person run double lash, 9 Oblits and PMs in rhinos. If your running Lash Princes or Oblits or 5x PM with 2 melta in a rhino, doesn't mean your being boring, or cheesy. Its only when you just run those things, its a bit boring, and I don't think its worth taking at all, if you really want to win that badly take GKs, I think even that CSM build isn't all that wonderful.

Your second list, is probably a bit better, as long as you can move your rhinos at least once towards the enemy, if they go first and there isn't sufficient cover your troops could very easily be left stranded because of the low number of vehicles, but if you manage to get close to the enemy you stand a decent chance of doing some damage.