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At the end of the day, I got some nice (and expensive) custom bases out of this one...

The regular models are excellent as well. And they paint up extremely well. Some of the larger models are bit of a pain to get together but the basic grunts are awesome.

And a ton of custom bases. Pretty sure the custom bases alone are actually worth what I spent per biohazard were I to purchase similar resin ones.

 Piston Honda wrote:
The doors have really great recessed lines that will be easy to fill in with inks, shades or paint for shadows. Also makes it that much easier to create various lighting effects on certain part of the doors.

Sorry for the poor images

Sounds odd getting excited over doors, but these are great and get a A+

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I could see these being popular with Tyranid players or terrain.

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recognize this?

The cargo is probably my favorite aspect of all this. Great for any scifi game, quick easy terrain for Infinity and Mercs. Best part about them is the have little ball joints that all you to stack them fairly high without them falling like a Jenga game. gives you a few options to build you battle field setup.

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great terrain for any scifi game



Having received quite a few of these, I will be making use of extra parts and use them as security cams for my Bank building I am making for Infinity.

Resin VS the Restic

Keep in mind it is not exactly fair to compare the qualities of the 2 and not consider the price point. Overall for the price and quantity you got SedWars was a good deal. The biggest issue is the mold lines, be it the amount or how difficult they are to remove, made this project the least fun of any project I have done. I personally would have gone for a lower count of models and get them printed in the fashion Malifaux is doing. Quality over quantity, that's my game.

A bit of shrinkage. This material is not to kind to bulky pieces. When comparing resin to restic counterparts, smaller models like Akosha do not show any shrinkage. But beefy models should some considerable amount of shrinkage, a few mm.

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mold line, could the have positioned the mold line better?

didn't post everything, if you want to see something in particular, I can post it.

Saw the first few minutes of the DVD, great video quality.

This was a fantastic post, thanks! Those doors do look really good, glad the terrain turned out okay

Well seems I got some extra Zombicide figs from my add on characters.

Really. I don't care who's at fault at this point, that will be the last thing I ever buy from McVey or CMON on Kickstarter.


edit - to really ram it home how bad it is, just going through my extras bag... and due to the mix up the 1st wave Kara was held back in the EU so it also came today. Putting her next to the trash they sent in the second wave really shows how fething awful it is.

Do you have pics, MDS? I'm liking the terrain, but as you say it seems a lot of the wave 2 characters in particular don't pass muster for most folks.

I actually thought the box contents painted up quite well once you clean off those horrible mold lines- not a 1:1 comparison since the helmeted resin one is the alt sculpt, but pretty close to the same model: the torso and legs are the same (and the sword arm is very close to the same sculpt), and other than very slight rounding they look very close

Nice. Your work?

And yes, clean them well, spray thinly, and make sure to paint with care and there's a surprising amount of detail in the restics.

"hard" armour edges aren't as hard as they'd be in resin but they paint up pretty well, both to manual highlights and drybrushing.

Organics are ideal for this material anyway so no issue there.

Biggest issue I had was cleaning god-awfully annoying mold lines off the strain mooks, and the (lack of) sculpted detail in the faces everywhere. (I'm used to painting overdetailed flesh though - I'm horrible at flesh tones, lol)

Yeah, thanks.

Agreed, it keeps detail well but doesn't do crisp worth a damn.

Also, yes, I hate cleaning the mold lines.

Y/W

Do you really have issues with painting 'crisp' edges, though? I thought it'd be bad but it turned out not to be much of a problem to get a decent look out of it. I generally feel it's sharp enough to take a crisp highlight but yeah, other materials do work better for hard edges.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Well seems I got some extra Zombicide figs from my add on characters.

Really. I don't care who's at fault at this point, that will be the last thing I ever buy from McVey or CMON on Kickstarter.


edit - to really ram it home how bad it is, just going through my extras bag... and due to the mix up the 1st wave Kara was held back in the EU so it also came today. Putting her next to the trash they sent in the second wave really shows how fething awful it is.

Although i thought some of the stuff was alright (poor for McVey but excellent for a boardgame) comparing it to the resin Kara did make me think there was a massive missed opportunity.

 RiTides wrote:
Do you have pics, MDS? I'm liking the terrain, but as you say it seems a lot of the wave 2 characters in particular don't pass muster for most folks.

Aye, just put a load of the 2nd wave specials/stretch characters out alongside the Kara limited, considering these are meant for the same game, its a total fail.

Bolgnesus, no, I don't have trouble painting it, but I don't think I should need to- you can freehand anything with enough patience, but that doesn't mean the original model is worth it...

MDS, I'm not sure that's a very appropriate photo to compare with: Kara's still got her base tab so looks huge (not that the models aren't undersized, but it exaggerates the problem) and restic looks terrible unpainted- I'm not sure what's wrong with the material but it always looks less detailed unpainted than even primed. I think it has to do with it being just slightly translucent...

It's not the height its the overall scale, they are way too small mass wise, it obvious on a glance, thus useless to me. They are literally on scale with the Zombicide figs.

Although river breaks that with height as well. Just awful.

Agreed on both of those counts- yean, they are too small and River looks incredibly out of scale regardless.

I noticed the size discrepancy as well, but figured it was just because Samaritans are chunky

That's where I was leaning when I saw photos, but in person a it's pretty huge discrepancy on some. Some can live with it, but that was pretty disappointing for me, esp. since some have pretty nice masters.

I got my box today. Seems like a lot of people in the US are getting their stuff this week. I'll have to go back and check to make sure I have everything.

Anyone check out the painting DVD yet?

 Breotan wrote:
I got my box today. Seems like a lot of people in the US are getting their stuff this week. I'll have to go back and check to make sure I have everything.

Anyone check out the painting DVD yet?

I'm hoping that the Zombicide boxes are close behind. Please let us know what you think of the painting DVD as well. I was going to purchase one if it seemed worth it. And remember I'm interested in the KS exclusive minis if anyone is looking to sell theirs. Send me a pm.

One more question. Are the cards sent in Wave 2 replacements or additional?

I thought the DVD was ok. It definitely would have been nice to have when I first started painting. You get so much more out of the video than you get from pictures. That being said it's pretty basic, McVey says right in the beginning that he is only painting to a table ready level, so no really advanced techniques. For the early painters though this could bring you to table ready pretty quickly.

One more question. Are the cards sent in Wave 2 replacements or additional?

Yeah, well. They were supposed to be replacements with fixed wording and stats for the revised rules. However like much of the rules parts of this game, these new cards already have problems. Also they did not give you enough of them to match up with the biohazard level pledges. Not that it matters, the way the rules are written you will NEVER use all the miniatures anyway.

Anyone have an email address for CMON complaints? I tried through the Kickstarter emailing them, but have had no response. From my Wave2 I'm missing a Jada figure, Calamity Crew, and I've a badly assembled turret which means its pointing to the floor and very wonky!

support@coolminiornot.com

Worked for me. Be advised that they will ask you for a photo...of your missing pieces.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
support@coolminiornot.com

Worked for me. Be advised that they will ask you for a photo...of your missing pieces.

LOL, it would be very difficult to avoid sending them a very sarcastic photo of an empty tabletop but that likley would remove the little sympathy they likely have for replacing the missing pieces.

I think it's some kind of anti-scammer technique that just comes across as a hassle. I told them what I was missing and I got tweo responses. The first response was basically, "Sure! What's your address?" The second email was all, "I'm going to need to see a photo." So I sent them a photo of what I actually got in the box.


To be fair, I suppose it could just be that they want to be able to know which pieces not to send me. With the PP "we're a big boy company, honest" customer service page, I had to send them photos, too, and they still got it wrong.

Wyrd asks for photos when you get the wrong sprue in your box. Not sure what this accomplishes as you can fake stuff easily enough, I suppose, but it seems fairly standard these days.

Sure I can send them a picture of missing models?!?!!?

I can also send a picture of the wonky turret due to it being badly assembled.

Well I got my stuff this morning and snapped some pics for those who are interested.

Now I didn't bother getting any shots of the figures as I think they have been covered pretty well on this thread but we seem to be lacking terrain so I figure I might as well do it!

First off let me say this, the terrain is AMAZING. Great details, plenty of variety and more doors than I have in my own house.

Okay, here are said doors plus all the various consoles with some figs for scale.. Please note that all of these pictures are prior to any cleanup.









Next up are the barricades and crates. My only complaint about the barricades is that they only go up to the hips of the troopers, not much protection there.





Some drone mayhem. (Note, mini drones didn't come with bases)



Any ideas why there drones are blue plastic? All I can say is that this was what I was expecting all the models to be like, no mold lines and easy push-fit as is common for a board game.

Next up, the Strain terrain (huh, that rhymes!) Seeing as I am going to use it for Tyranid stuff I included some existing 'nid stuff for comparison.





Aaand finally a shot of all the sci-fi stuff that you get in the box. I am going to be using it all in conjunction with the Mantic Dreadzone terrain to make some seriously cool looking battle boards. (And yes, there are 36 individual doors to save you all the counting..)




On the subject of the figures I have to say that the scaling IS a problem, the females faces have become tiny compared to the troopers and I'm glad I only picked up one of the exo-suits rather than three.

Overall though that terrain set was well worth the money I spent and has actually made this whole ks an enjoyable experience again. For those worrying about the pre-assembled nonsense everything I received was put together perfectly with the teensy exception of a superglue fingerprint on one of the computers, not the end of the world right?


So there we are, my terrain review. Sorry for the sub-par photos, Dakka fuzzed them up so there was not much I could do about it..

Cain

Great pictures. Thanks.

Does anyone know when the terrain hits retail? And the drones? (My son LOVES the drones.)

The terrain looks nice especially when posed with a few figures and not just alone in a close up.