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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 06:50:39
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Dakka Veteran
Midland, TX or Wellington, New Zealand
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JeffJedi!! Glad to hear from you again!! Thanks again for pointing out these old builds! Yes, I thought the same thing, both of them do have aspects of those later vehicles. Yeah, I added the missile myself, which I got from the zoids toy. I figured hunter killer missile was the only way to go with that bit! It's also cool that these builds were created by Bob Naismith himself, the designer of GW's first space marine! The article mentions that Mr. Naismith eventually used one of his mockups for the original plastic Predator kit, and I know he had his hand in a lot of the early 40k universe!
Hehe, cool! I just got into a terrain kick and decided to look in on some old GW tutorials! Great minds and all!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 12:33:57
Subject: Re:Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Nice job on the dark future car, i hope the final driver is not a space marine but colonel Presley
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/24 09:52:47
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Dakka Veteran
Midland, TX or Wellington, New Zealand
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Thanks Jehan-reznor! Hehe, I had to look that reference up since I don't know a thing about Dark Future's fluff! So funny, but I think I'll keep my Space Marine for now!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/24 23:43:27
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Stalwart Space Marine
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How tall is that knight titan?
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"Life is not measured in years, but in the deeds of men." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/25 02:48:25
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Ragin' Ork Dreadnought
Deep in the Outer Boroughs of NYC
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I remember Car Wars and Dark Future! They had to change the name because Steve Jackson Games owned the copyright. Awesome project.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/25 03:25:25
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Dakka Veteran
Midland, TX or Wellington, New Zealand
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@Capt.: From the way I have it posed, about 17 cm tall. There's another thread on Dakka belonging to fellow that shows some good comparison pics with GW/ FW's knights. It certainly looks as if the Resinlab one is a bit taller than GW's plastic kit, but shorter than FW's Castigator.
Thanks Warboss_Waaazag! Yeah, always ends up that way. If I was crazier about the whole Dark future setting I'd totally make several of these and up-scale the game, but I only have time for this one!
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Oh, here is something interesting I dug up from an old White Dwarf (203) from 1996. This is Fred Reed's ( GW's Manager of the Year 1996) solution to the then recent discontinuation of GW's original Land Raider kit. I think it's kind of cool and I got back to thinking about it because Tamiya just released a new WWI era MkIV male tank with moving treads and motorized engine in 1/35th scale. Now, I have plenty of LRs, and if I got the Tamiya kit I'd want to build the MkIV male to my best abilities, but this creation certainly counts as an obscure 40k vehicle. However, I think I'll probably leave this one behind, so I thought I'd at least mention it in my thread!
As you can see, it uses the MkIV, actually of the female variant. Reed has just added 40k weaponry and used the hull from off a Russ and a Chimera turret to bulk it out! I wouldn't say there is anything "official" about it, save for the fact that White Dwarf printed a couple of pictures of it!
Actually, after digging around looking for a cheap MkIV it's clear that the WD article was wrong when it stated he used a Female MkIV, looking at the side sponsons Reed used a Male MkIV for his LR!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/25 04:07:54
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances
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You need to do that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/25 05:57:10
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Dakka Veteran
Midland, TX or Wellington, New Zealand
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Well, if someone wants to get me that Tamiya kit for this specific purpose then I would have no choice but to do it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/30 14:12:06
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Dakka Veteran
Midland, TX or Wellington, New Zealand
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Just some WIP updates on my Dark Future car!
With a little more work to the body:
As you can see it pops off just like the original!
At this point all that's left is the roof and supports, as well as the half-pod shaped piece over the engine!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/30 14:19:08
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Phanobi
Canada,Prince Edward Island
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And paint, don't forget the paint!
Awesome work so far though, looks just like the original model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/01 00:06:18
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances
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He doesn't own paint.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/01 12:54:46
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Dakka Veteran
Midland, TX or Wellington, New Zealand
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Thanks again Commander Cain! Hehe, sad to say, but Mythos is basically right!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/02 16:57:20
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Dakka Veteran
Midland, TX or Wellington, New Zealand
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Ok! More or less done with the Dark Future Renegade. I just need to do some sanding, putty up some gaps, and put a couple of old lascannons on the front tire guards (coming in the mail). I've decided to use this guy as a count-as Javelin Attack Speeder with twin-linked lascannons, heavy bolter, and 2 hunter-killer missiles! I modded the HK missiles to be more reminiscent of the Dark Future missile pods that came with the game! Let me know if you think I should keep the spare tire where I put it in the pics!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/10/02 16:58:18
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/03 01:37:16
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances
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The spare tire really makes the proportions look weird.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/03 02:39:39
Subject: Re:Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Gargantuan Great Squiggoth
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The work you have done on this is brilliant. Looks great, apart from the spare. Got to agree, loose the spare, just does not look right.
Can't wait to see whats up next.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/03 02:54:50
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Heliodore wrote:@Capt.: From the way I have it posed, about 17 cm tall. There's another thread on Dakka belonging to fellow that shows some good comparison pics with GW/ FW's knights. It certainly looks as if the Resinlab one is a bit taller than GW's plastic kit, but shorter than FW's Castigator.
Thanks Warboss_Waaazag! Yeah, always ends up that way. If I was crazier about the whole Dark future setting I'd totally make several of these and up-scale the game, but I only have time for this one!
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Oh, here is something interesting I dug up from an old White Dwarf (203) from 1996. This is Fred Reed's ( GW's Manager of the Year 1996) solution to the then recent discontinuation of GW's original Land Raider kit. I think it's kind of cool and I got back to thinking about it because Tamiya just released a new WWI era MkIV male tank with moving treads and motorized engine in 1/35th scale. Now, I have plenty of LRs, and if I got the Tamiya kit I'd want to build the MkIV male to my best abilities, but this creation certainly counts as an obscure 40k vehicle. However, I think I'll probably leave this one behind, so I thought I'd at least mention it in my thread!
As you can see, it uses the MkIV, actually of the female variant. Reed has just added 40k weaponry and used the hull from off a Russ and a Chimera turret to bulk it out! I wouldn't say there is anything "official" about it, save for the fact that White Dwarf printed a couple of pictures of it!
I modified mine slightly, to represent a landraider prototype
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/03 10:26:38
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Dakka Veteran
Midland, TX or Wellington, New Zealand
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Thanks guys, I trust your judgement. I considered it because I saw online that a number of Dark Future players would stick an extra tire there, guess it doesn't look right on my beefier rendition!
That's awesome Jehan-reznor! Those are a pair of nice looking tanks, I take it you used a mkIV tadpole! The more I've thought about it the more I want to go ahead and make one of these reverse homages, hehe! I think the only thing I want to change from the WD example is the use of the Chimera/Russ treads, they just don't seem wide enough to me. I also don't want to use the rubber/vinyl treads that tend to come standard in most tank kits, which is why I liked the idea of using the new Tamiya male where each link is a separate plastic piece and just looks cooler! I actually had one in my hands, but I felt like I'd be desecrating an awesome model, so I'll hunt down an older 1/35 scale version and look around to see if there are resin tread options out there as I know there are for other real-world tank kits!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/03 12:45:56
Subject: Re:Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
Moncton, New Brunswick, Canada
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I have to agree that the spare tire by itself looks out of place. Perhaps if you surrounded it with other stowage? I love the turret.
As for resin treads, have you seen these?
http://stores.ebay.ca/Blood-and-Skulls-Industry?_dmd=2&_nkw=treads
I haven't tried them myself, but I've been eyeing the Krusher Pattern for some of my ork builds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/03 15:26:12
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Dakka Veteran
Midland, TX or Wellington, New Zealand
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Thanks for stopping by Zogg! Yes, I'll be leaving off the tire, hehe!
Yes, I am very familiar with Machinator's work, used a bunch of his treads for various projects, highly recommended. While great, they are custom made for GW tanks, so I don't know if they'd fit a 1/35 MkIV male. I'm thinking I can probably use the one it comes with and add detail to it myself!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/03 18:46:52
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances
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In that GW article it looks like they used Leman a Russ treads on it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/03 23:43:06
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Dakka Veteran
Midland, TX or Wellington, New Zealand
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Yeah Mythos, I don't really like that aspect. At this point I think I'm going to use the treads the kit comes with and add larger hinges all the way round to give it that Rogue Trader look!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/09 16:14:50
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Dakka Veteran
Midland, TX or Wellington, New Zealand
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Got my lascannons in the mail, so my Dark Future Renegade is all done! As you can see in the background is the actual Renegade armed the way I have my scratch build.
Additionally, I was bored a couple of nights ago and found on Scribd a fellow cool enough to have uploaded all 50 copies of Citadel Journal for public perusal. So, I sat down and skimmed through all 50 issues in case there were any projects I've overlooked. Only a couple small projects caught my interest, one of which was a quick and dirty tutorial from Citadel Journal 9 for making a crater terrain piece from a small pie plate, hehe! As you can see, pretty simple but kind of cool! I'll probably cover it with a coat of filler and flock it later.
Now, I did find some other cool projects that I don't really have any interest in, but I thought I'd cite them for any of you Imperial Guard Tread-heads out there because there's some pretty nifty tank articles in CJ.
Citadel Journal 9: Tutorial, fluff, and outdated rules for a Pegasus A. A. V. (A Chimera variant with reversed hull and Rhino track assemblies)
Citadel Journal 11: Tutorial, fluff, and outdated rules for 3 assault Chimeras: The Chimerro, the Chimerox, and the Chimedon (I believe these are Epic variants of the Chimera that give it different armaments)
Citadel Journal 15 and 16: Two part tutorial, fluff, and outdated rules for Centaur AFV and Minotaur AFV (These are pretty much armored jeeps made using the Russ hull and big wheels)
Citadel Journal 28: Tutorial, fluff, and outdated rules for a Hyena LSV (A Chimera jeep variant)
Citadel Journal 32: A narrative description for building an Imperial Forest base and Jungle Class Clearance Bulldozer (the bulldozer uses the Chimera hull and lots of random bitz)
Citadel Journal 33: A narrative description and outdated rules for an Imperial Leviathan (really!) and Yarrick's Rhino.
I'll mention CJ 35, nothing as cool as the above articles, but it does have a lot of pics of various IG tank mods made by a guest writer.
If anybody hunts down these journal issues and builds any of these tanks I'd love to see some pics!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/09 16:24:05
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Wicked Ghast
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Can you post a link to where you found these
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/09 17:21:00
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Dakka Veteran
Midland, TX or Wellington, New Zealand
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Pretty easy to Google it, hopefully he can keep it up on Scribd for a long time coming! I assume I can post this link here:
https://www.scribd.com/collections/4504010/Citadel-Journal
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/09 18:37:58
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Wicked Ghast
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thats awesome i shall be looking through them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/19 10:35:52
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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Okay, that pie pan idea is just sick usage of home materiel in a scrap building manor. Brilliant!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/19 11:25:31
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Dakka Veteran
Midland, TX or Wellington, New Zealand
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Hehe, yeah, when I read that Citadel Journal article, which is presented quite humorously, I pretty much slapped my head as to why I never thought of that before! I've since spread wall filler all over it and it's now looking quite good!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 14:03:21
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Dakka Veteran
Midland, TX or Wellington, New Zealand
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Well, I've gone and done it, I've started work on a 40k scale Space Marine Landing Craft! I really hope this isn't the big flyer FW plans on releasing in the near future! This is going to be a pretty big build, so I'm doing it in stages. Stage 1 is the cockpit and fuselage, which you can see is conveniently squarish in shape. Once I get this part built I'll probably shelve it until I get some other projects out of the way and then I'll eventually return to finishing it! I've done quite a lot so far, I figured WIP pics would have been a bit redundant, so here it is a little more than half-way done!
As you can see on the Epic model, its head is somewhat arrowhead shaped and not an actual square. I guarantee that my build is that same shape. My picture wasn't able to capture that very well.
I recently acquired the larger Space Crusade Dreadnought, thought it would make a nifty Contemptor Mortis!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 15:23:03
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I notice that a LOT of my so-called "friends" have been hanging around this blog... yet none of you thought to point out Heliodore's work to me?! What a bunch of weedy gits!
Heliodore, the things on this blog are fantastic, amazing, nostalgic and wonderfully impossible! As one who also appreciates "the old ways"... going through this blog has been an absolute delight!
Please keep it up... there's just too much awesome here to be confined to only occasional posts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/22 15:48:20
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
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Phanobi
Canada,Prince Edward Island
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Ooh I've been waiting for this build for so long! It's gonna be beautiful...
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