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Thanks, its cool, no shade but I do play competitively, and that is why I am so concerned about tarpit units. I just don't think they put out enough damage. In my area there are a lot of Nighthaunt players and I see and play a lot of games. So far, Chainrasps are underwhelming. Now I will admit, Nighthaunt vs Nighthaunt may not be a very good stick to judge by, since our armies both have the same abilities, but my units hit harder and have a better save compared to the Chainrasp players.
   
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Gathering the Informations.

Smellingsalts wrote:
Thanks, its cool, no shade but I do play competitively, and that is why I am so concerned about tarpit units. I just don't think they put out enough damage. In my area there are a lot of Nighthaunt players and I see and play a lot of games. So far, Chainrasps are underwhelming. Now I will admit, Nighthaunt vs Nighthaunt may not be a very good stick to judge by, since our armies both have the same abilities, but my units hit harder and have a better save compared to the Chainrasp players.

Nighthaunt vs Nighthaunt is a terrible stick to judge by--and the idea that tarpit units don't put out enough damage being a bad thing is ridiculous.

They're tarpits. They're not there to carve their way through the enemy, they're there to lock things down or force them to flee and take a penalty.
   
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Florence, KY

Pre-orders are up on the New Zealand site. Chainrasps are $83 for "... 20 push-fit components, and is supplied with 10 Citadel 25mm Round bases..." so the kit does have only ten models

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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 Ghaz wrote:
Pre-orders are up on the New Zealand site. Chainrasps are $83 for "... 20 push-fit components, and is supplied with 10 Citadel 25mm Round bases..." so the kit does have only ten models


Yep

"this kit assembles 10 Easy To Build Chainrasps" glad I picked up another 20 for £18 the other day but the bits sellers are already upping the price.
   
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Gathering the Informations.

 Ghaz wrote:
Pre-orders are up on the New Zealand site. Chainrasps are $83 for "... 20 push-fit components, and is supplied with 10 Citadel 25mm Round bases..." so the kit does have only ten models

Not only that, but it's the ghostly blue-grey plastic...so it's just them reboxing the stuff from Tempest of Souls.

Well at least we know what will be in the Nighthaunt Start Collecting!
   
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Seattle, WA USA

 Ghaz wrote:
Pre-orders are up on the New Zealand site. Chainrasps are $83 for "... 20 push-fit components, and is supplied with 10 Citadel 25mm Round bases..." so the kit does have only ten models
Cripes. I'm glad I have all the Chainrasps I'll most likely want (60, since I wound up with 3 portions of the Soul Wars box via trades).
   
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I feel like I just grabbed the last decently priced Chainrasps on Ebay. As people have said, the minute this pricing was confirmed, everyone on Ebay doubled the price of their Soul Wars Chainrasps.

Luckily snagged a set of 20, for $40 shipped, but they were even cheaper a week ago when you could get a whole Nighthaunt box-half for $65.

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The coach is a serious upgrade on the old model. Hot damn I want that coffin for a diorama I've been planning.

   
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West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
I feel like I just grabbed the last decently priced Chainrasps on Ebay. As people have said, the minute this pricing was confirmed, everyone on Ebay doubled the price of their Soul Wars Chainrasps.

Luckily snagged a set of 20, for $40 shipped, but they were even cheaper a week ago when you could get a whole Nighthaunt box-half for $65.


The more GW changes, the more they stay the same. At least atrociously priced Fyreslayers make more than one thing, and aren't just a reboxed starter set kit.

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Genuinely surprised at the pricing. $5 less than 10 reapers is a bit nuts. I'd have thought 20 for that price. Oh well. I have 100 and don't expect to need more.

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The comparison to Storm Strike makes it really hurt. That's the same price and also is a bunch of new monopose figures, but there's 15 instead of 10 and you get other stuff in the box.
   
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West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA

Ah, but Storm Strike doesn't have models that people are going to want to field a bunch of, does it?

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Gathering the Informations.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Ah, but Storm Strike doesn't have models that people are going to want to field a bunch of, does it?

Myrmourn Banshees and the Stormcast side of things, for sure, people will want multiples of.

The issue is the Glaivewraith Stalkers and the other 'bits' that it comes with. I'm really not sure what possessed them to release the Chainrasp this way.
   
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Florence, KY

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Ah, but Storm Strike doesn't have models that people are going to want to field a bunch of, does it?

Correct. Storm Strike has 15 models in total (7 Stormcasts and 8 Nighthaunt) and not a single Chainrasp model.

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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA

 Ghaz wrote:
 AegisGrimm wrote:
Ah, but Storm Strike doesn't have models that people are going to want to field a bunch of, does it?

Correct. Storm Strike has 15 models in total (7 Stormcasts and 8 Nighthaunt) and not a single Chainrasp model.


Sorry. Was being sarcastic, bit it didn't carry over as text.

By that statement I meant that this was a well-calculated decision to milk a core troop that people will surely want multiple boxes of. Really sucks as it screwed the secondary market of the Nighthaunt starter half for those of use who dont want/need the Stormcast.

Its (kind of) like if Liberators/Bloodreavers had been released as 10 of the push-fit starter set models for 40-60 bucks.



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Next week finishes the SC and NH releases

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/07/29/gangs-ghosts-and-grandhammers-next-weeks-pre-orders/

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Finally the evocators on dracolines. Been waiting for those

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Florence, KY

 DaveC wrote:
Next week finishes the SC and NH releases

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/07/29/gangs-ghosts-and-grandhammers-next-weeks-pre-orders/

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Looks like the Bladegheist Revenants come ten to a box, when you purchase them in blocks of five for Matched play. Let the complaints begin!

Spoiler:

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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I mean, worst case scenario we can use the other five as Grimghasts.
   
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In my eyes they are not ideally taken in 5-man units anyways. Nighthaunt are big on returning slain models but they cannot do anything about a unit that is destroyed entirely. Certain context can make a 5-man unit more useful but in such a case it would be simple to run two such units. What would be irksome is if it was something like a 7-man box.

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Florence, KY

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
In my eyes they are not ideally taken in 5-man units anyways.

Agreed. That's why I was going to take them as a 15-man unit

GW's Facebook guy gave a little feedback on the complaints about the Chainrasp pricing...

Warhammer Age of Sigmar wrote:Hi Andy,

We're very aware that you are a champion of this hobby, and we're grateful for all the incredibly helpful contributions you make on this page answering people's questions.

We're passing everyone's feedback received over the weekend on up the chain, and rest assured that this is amongst that feedback.

Thank you for sharing this with us, we truly do appreciate it.

We'll see if anything comes of it.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Those bladegheists have some really neat swords. I hope there’s going to be a Free Peoples unit that has non-rotten equivalents at some point because that would look awesome with some plate armour.

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Florence, KY

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Those bladegheists have some really neat swords. I hope there’s going to be a Free Peoples unit that has non-rotten equivalents at some point because that would look awesome with some plate armour.

You want something that looks like the Freeguild Greatswords?

Spoiler:

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Eehh, sorta?
I guess I really just want greatswords that look sharp and easy to manoeuvre; the old greatswords look like their blades weigh 50lbs or something, and they’re having a hard time just lifting them, never mind performing combat manoeuvres.

Especially that dude at the back who’s like “oh no, I leaned it too far!” and is about to fall over backwards…

Edit: could do with a new look too; slashed sleeves and doublets are, like, sooo last incarnation.

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 Ghaz wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
In my eyes they are not ideally taken in 5-man units anyways.

Agreed. That's why I was going to take them as a 15-man unit

GW's Facebook guy gave a little feedback on the complaints about the Chainrasp pricing...

Warhammer Age of Sigmar wrote:Hi Andy,

We're very aware that you are a champion of this hobby, and we're grateful for all the incredibly helpful contributions you make on this page answering people's questions.

We're passing everyone's feedback received over the weekend on up the chain, and rest assured that this is amongst that feedback.

Thank you for sharing this with us, we truly do appreciate it.

We'll see if anything comes of it.
I have it! GW releases a 10-man box with a ridiculous price knowing everyone will hate it, then waits a month and releases a 20-man box at a way better price and everyone applauds! It's just like new coke!

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Florence, KY

That sounds like something Kirby would have done but in reverse (replace 20-man boxes with 10-man boxes).

I think if anything does happen it will be a price cut on the 10-man box, with later runs maybe being 20-man boxes.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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United States

Any word on a box release for Castigators? The Warhammer community post made it sound like this is the last release for both armies.
   
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Gathering the Informations.

 Ghaz wrote:
That sounds like something Kirby would have done but in reverse (replace 20-man boxes with 10-man boxes).

I think if anything does happen it will be a price cut on the 10-man box, with later runs maybe being 20-man boxes.

Ehhh...I can't see a price cut(it's not really something GW does)--but I could see a Nighthaunt Skirmish set that features them at a discounted price.
   
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By the looks of it, there's no duplicates in the 10 man box. I haven't seen any nighthaunt up close yet but it seems like a hard bunch of models to make a multipose kit for; if theý'd have gone with a 5 man box we'd likely have had half the poses available? Seems like a reasonable tradeoff for more model variety, TBH... But maybe I'm missing something.
   
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Florence, KY

 Kanluwen wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
That sounds like something Kirby would have done but in reverse (replace 20-man boxes with 10-man boxes).

I think if anything does happen it will be a price cut on the 10-man box, with later runs maybe being 20-man boxes.

Ehhh...I can't see a price cut(it's not really something GW does)--but I could see a Nighthaunt Skirmish set that features them at a discounted price.

The price cut would realistically be the only option available if they want to do something before the release this weekend. It's too late to do a reboxing since the product is already on it's way to the retailers and most likely would have to wait for the next run of Chainrasps.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
 
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