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Hwne some of the fluff was "leaked" from 6th Ed, one of the things mentioned was that the Space Marines found out that they Tau were some.sort of Chosen, Anti-Chaos Master race that they have to prtect and the UM dropped everything to protect them.


Is that the case or was it BS?

Tau dont register in the Warp, meaning they cant be affected by Chaos (and that they get no psykers)

Its also why Necrons dont hate Tau (The warp hurts the C'tan [Necron Gods] so Tau who doesnt register in the Warp are alright with them

Deadshot wrote:Hwne some of the fluff was "leaked" from 6th Ed, one of the things mentioned was that the Space Marines found out that they Tau were some.sort of Chosen, Anti-Chaos Master race that they have to prtect and the UM dropped everything to protect them.


Is that the case or was it BS?

The rulebook doesn't seem to mention it. Honestly, I think those fluff rumors were designed to troll people and didn't represent anything actually happening in the background.

No mention that anyone has found. Most people are hoping it was all a lie, lol.

Unless you count allies? but then the imperiums obviously out to protect the crons too...and the orks -_- xD

Looking at it now, it was probably someone who had seen the allies table and was just trying to make sense of it: i.e. that Space Marines are 'battle brothers' with Tau, yet factions like Templars and SoB (amongst other, more likely examples) are not so closely allied.

To be honest there are elements of that table that are difficult to defend, and you have to think that being true to the background was not really the highest priority when they were made.

doc1234 wrote:Unless you count allies? but then the imperiums obviously out to protect the crons too...and the orks -_- xD

Saving species is a good thing! Galactical environmentalism!

Lord Rogukiel wrote:

doc1234 wrote:Unless you count allies? but then the imperiums obviously out to protect the crons too...and the orks -_- xD

Saving species is a good thing! Galactical environmentalism!

bit late for the necrons isnt it?

Talamare wrote:Tau dont register in the Warp, meaning they cant be affected by Chaos (and that they get no psykers)

Its also why Necrons dont hate Tau (The warp hurts the C'tan [Necron Gods] so Tau who doesnt register in the Warp are alright with them

That got re-written, the C'tan are now Necron slaves, cut into bits and used as weapons of war.

as for the Imperium's attitude towards Tau, i reckon its the same as that towards the eldar, they are an alien race that can at least be bargained with, so the Imperium focuses on the bigger threats that aren't quite so eager to talk about it first.

wait o.O Tau can't be corrupted or affected by the warp, yet they can take daemons of chaos and chaos space marines as allies.

O.o;?

Sasa0mg wrote:wait o.O Tau can't be corrupted or affected by the warp, yet they can take daemons of chaos and chaos space marines as allies.

O.o;?

WardHammer

Talamare wrote:Tau dont register in the Warp, meaning they cant be affected by Chaos (and that they get no psykers)

Its also why Necrons dont hate Tau (The warp hurts the C'tan [Necron Gods] so Tau who doesnt register in the Warp are alright with them

not quite true - the Tau have very little presence in the Warp - they are "blunt" but they do have some - they are not Blanks / Priarhs.

They can be corrupted by Chaos as they have souls, interlect and physical bodies - all of which make them potentially vulnerable - however due to the blunt nature it will be unusual.

Tau warriors are honourable and skilled warriors so if they fight with (and to a certain degree aginst them) the Asartes and others can recognise that - more than say they do with Orks. I don't think this means that they seem them as equals just less distasteful than other Xenos. The Astartes and other Imperial Forces can and do work with Xenos (mainly Eldar and Tau but also on rare occassions Orks) against a greater threat - usually Necrons, Chaos or Tryanids

As noted in other threads - the Allies table is pretty fluff unfriendly, IMO badly researched and in some cases contradicts established fluff on the relationships between different armies. It may be thats its purely based on some game balance but not convinced.

Yeah like Necrons can ally themselves with Chaos Space Marines and Grey Knights. Actually, I think Orks and Necrons are among the most "friendly" races out there according to this chart.
The only thing that makes any sense is the Tyranids.

Also, Eldar and Dark Eldar battle brothers? Am I missing something?

When I get time I will post up a table that I feel better represents the actual fluff...........

The basic concept is good - its the execution and choices of who is more likely to ally that the whole thing is flawed.

1.) Nothing in the fluff mentioned in the new rulebook
2.) At the same time tau and Space marines are now Battle Brothers in the Allies matrix.

So there is a need to explain why. Guess it is saved for the Codex tau due next year, parallel to the Necron Codex explaining the BA/Necron brofist story several months later.

Personally I think that the rumour about SM now protecting the Tau is correct.

Kroothawk wrote:1.) Nothing in the fluff mentioned in the new rulebook
2.) At the same time tau and Space marines are now Battle Brothers in the Allies matrix.

So there is a need to explain why. Guess it is saved for the Codex tau due next year, parallel to the Necron Codex explaining the BA/Necron brofist story several months later.

Personally I think that the rumour about SM now protecting the Tau is correct.

wouldnt surprise me in the least. Necron/BA brofist, GK with SOB hats, i missing any?


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Though it has me wondering if tau/SM will get a sarcastic little comic to go with it

Sasa0mg wrote:wait o.O Tau can't be corrupted or affected by the warp, yet they can take daemons of chaos and chaos space marines as allies.

O.o;?

They are just to dense to realize how bad they are.

doc1234 wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:1.) Nothing in the fluff mentioned in the new rulebook
2.) At the same time tau and Space marines are now Battle Brothers in the Allies matrix.

So there is a need to explain why. Guess it is saved for the Codex tau due next year, parallel to the Necron Codex explaining the BA/Necron brofist story several months later.

Personally I think that the rumour about SM now protecting the Tau is correct.

wouldnt surprise me in the least. Necron/BA brofist, GK with SOB hats, i missing any?


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Though it has me wondering if tau/SM will get a sarcastic little comic to go with it

some "fun" combos"

Ghazgkul and Yarrick - together they fight crime
Helbrecht and Imotek - sailing the void together in search of adventure
Vecht and Vulkan - enjoying a quiet drink

Khan and Lilith, Fighting for a brighter tommorow

Gork and Mork, partying with the choas gods.

Die Hard: Trazyn and St Celestine.

So in the 41 millennium there is NOT only war. There is also love, support, understanding and brofists.

Wouldnt it make sense for the Imperium to ally with the less...aggressive and cooperative races like the tau and eldar? They're having a tough enough problem with Leviathan, but then theres chaos. They need all the help they can find.

Considering that the Imperium is probably the most xenophobic race in the galaxy, no, there is no logic for them to ally except in desperate situations. Not the way I see it anyway. Still this chart has way too many inconsistencies.

hotsauceman1 wrote:

Sasa0mg wrote:wait o.O Tau can't be corrupted or affected by the warp, yet they can take daemons of chaos and chaos space marines as allies.

O.o;?

They are just to dense to realize how bad they are.

This. Tau know little (if anything) about Chaos and daemons, they likely view daemons that they've encountered as being some kind of alien lifeform with highly advanced teleportation technology

IIRC, there was even a bit of fluff a while back where Tau thought they had killed Slaanesh (actually, the daemon prince leading a Slaanesh warband). This should give you an idea of just how aware they are.

The truth is that everyone in the universe is starting to accept the Greater Good

I mean the Emperor of Mankind is suppose to be Christian Jesus Dad, and the Bible always talks about doing things for the Greater Good

Mr Morden wrote:
some "fun" combos"

Ghazgkul and Yarrick - together they fight crime
Helbrecht and Imotek - sailing the void together in search of adventure
Vecht and Vulkan - enjoying a quiet drink

Stop giving Matt Ward ideas

angelshade00 wrote:Also, Eldar and Dark Eldar battle brothers? Am I missing something?

There was a big thread on this I can't find right now. Basically, Eldar and DE players came to the conclusion that Eldar and DE hate other races more than each other and they have the same goal (surviving and hiding from Slaanesh), but just go about it different ways. The Eldar think the DE are fools for following the path that lead the ancient eldar to slaanesh's creation, and the DE think the Eldar are stuck up cousins who have no fun in life. But they would still fight together against another enemy.

nobody wrote:
IIRC, there was even a bit of fluff a while back where Tau thought they had killed Slaanesh (actually, the daemon prince leading a Slaanesh warband). This should give you an idea of just how aware they are.

This I must read, where is it from?

Talamare wrote:The truth is that everyone in the universe is starting to accept the Greater Good

I mean the Emperor of Mankind is suppose to be Christian Jesus Dad, and the Bible always talks about doing things for the Greater Good

The truth is:

The fire caste has seen the error of their ways and accepted Roboute as their spiritual liege.
From now on, the caste paints its armor blue and is BFF with the warrior kings of ultramar, and a pilgrimage to Macragge is mandatory if you want to advance to Shas'O.

Lord Rogukiel wrote:

angelshade00 wrote:Also, Eldar and Dark Eldar battle brothers? Am I missing something?

There was a big thread on this I can't find right now. Basically, Eldar and DE players came to the conclusion that Eldar and DE hate other races more than each other and they have the same goal (surviving and hiding from Slaanesh), but just go about it different ways. The Eldar think the DE are fools for following the path that lead the ancient eldar to slaanesh's creation, and the DE think the Eldar are stuck up cousins who have no fun in life. But they would still fight together against another enemy.

This gose for most of the complaints. Eg. people are saying Orks won't work with Guard because of Gaz and Yarric. There is allot of focusing on small conflicts in fluff to say why forces would not work together rather than why they would. The xenophobia of the IOM has been over stated, people forgetting that the relationship between Eldar is "he may be a drug addict/arogant gakker but hes still my brother" not "i hate and will kill them", and talking about DE not working with chaos because of Slaanesh, whilst forgetting that forces of Khorne also hate Slaanesh, so on that basis C:CSM & C:CD are unfluffy.

Fetterkey wrote:

Deadshot wrote:Hwne some of the fluff was "leaked" from 6th Ed, one of the things mentioned was that the Space Marines found out that they Tau were some.sort of Chosen, Anti-Chaos Master race that they have to prtect and the UM dropped everything to protect them.


Is that the case or was it BS?

The rulebook doesn't seem to mention it. Honestly, I think those fluff rumors were designed to troll people and didn't represent anything actually happening in the background.

Absolutely 100%. I remember seeing the original post that started the rumour, and it had troll written all over it. But you know how it is with rumours, all it takes is a couple of people to believe it's true enough to be worth talking about and off they go...