[Adepta Sororitas] Made to Order Battle Sister pg 201

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**Red Corsair**

EnTyme wrote:
Alpharius wrote:

As always, Dakka Dakka remains strangely silent on the matter.

However, what we do see here is a lot of people with various opinions.

I’m sure there be a few good builds somewhere in this new codex...

This retort doesn't make you look witty, just pretentious. It's common practice to refer to the zeitgeist of a forum by the name of that forum. You and everyone else who read my post know whatI was referring to.

And it's misguided and silly to toss an entire forum into a box for your own convenience. Seems to be the thing to do nowadays though, makes branding others easier, everyone needs to be in a group whether they choose to or not.

**ImAGeek**

Red Corsair wrote:
EnTyme wrote:
Alpharius wrote:

As always, Dakka Dakka remains strangely silent on the matter.

However, what we do see here is a lot of people with various opinions.

I’m sure there be a few good builds somewhere in this new codex...

This retort doesn't make you look witty, just pretentious. It's common practice to refer to the zeitgeist of a forum by the name of that forum. You and everyone else who read my post know whatI was referring to.

And it's misguided and silly to toss an entire forum into a box for your own convenience. Seems to be the thing to do nowadays though, makes branding others easier, everyone needs to be in a group whether they choose to or not.

It’s just shorthand for ‘some people on Dakka’ and I think the majority of people understand that.

**Crazyterran**

I remember when the new Space Marine book came out and people were lamenting it was UP and no one would play it.

**Mr_Rose**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
So is the new box basically sold out everywhere?

I don’t think anyone’s (virtual) stock lasted much beyond Saturday so the only way to get it now is either an auction or by showing up early at your nearest GW/Warhammer store on the 29th.

**EnTyme**

ImAGeek wrote:

It’s just shorthand for ‘some people on Dakka’ and I think the majority of people understand that.

Even the people replying to me understand that.

**ERJAK**

Crazyterran wrote:
I remember when the new Space Marine book came out and people were lamenting it was UP and no one would play it.

No you don't because that never happened. It was immediately apparent that the space marine book was good.

Xenomancer doesn't count.

**Crazyterran**

ERJAK wrote:
Crazyterran wrote:
I remember when the new Space Marine book came out and people were lamenting it was UP and no one would play it.

No you don't because that never happened. It was immediately apparent that the space marine book was good.

Xenomancer doesn't count.

Does too! He totally does count.

**phillv85**

Ahh the Kellermorph. I remember some of the native numpties on here shouting me down because I said it looked like a glass cannon from it’s rules.

It’s not looking great for the sisters at the moment, it until the general game playing public start messing with combo’s I’ll reserve my opinion.

**YeOldSaltPotato**

Mr_Rose wrote:
Kid_Kyoto wrote:
So is the new box basically sold out everywhere?

I don’t think anyone’s (virtual) stock lasted much beyond Saturday so the only way to get it now is either an auction or by showing up early at your nearest GW/Warhammer store on the 29th.

Talked to my FLGS and they said pre orders would be honored, but they didn't expect any stock.

**H.B.M.C.**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
So is the new box basically sold out everywhere?

Except for physical copies shipped to stores. So if you have a GW nearby you could get one in a week's time, but you'll need to be there early.

I remember when Shadow War Armageddon came out. I was at GW before it opened, the first in line, several behind me. The store was allocated 5 copies IIRC. They were all gone by the time I walked out of the store.

**JNAProductions**

Is there a particular that has all the current info on sisters?

**Adeptus Doritos**

So, Sisters don't look elite-badass-powerful, IMHO. But they're certainly a playable faction.

I called it long ago, I said that when they came out people would still find something to whinge about. But that's just like predicting a sunrise, it's 40k.

I'm still not seeing if Ministorum priests can work with them- Taddeus the Purifier and Pious Vorne would be nice additions to the army.

Very sad about the box being sold out. But at least we know the actual better kits hit early 2020.

**Dryaktylus**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Kid_Kyoto wrote:
So is the new box basically sold out everywhere?
Except for physical copies shipped to stores. So if you have a GW nearby you could get one in a week's time, but you'll need to be there early.

I remember when Shadow War Armageddon came out. I was at GW before it opened, the first in line, several behind me. The store was allocated 5 copies IIRC. They were all gone by the time I walked out of the store.

With your five boxes.

**Adeptus Doritos**

I recommend also going to the FLGS and asking if you can "prepay" for a reserved box.

I've already done this for a friend (SoB aren't my gig), and the stores are usually willing to work with you. The one I work with is always willing to do this as long as there's enough ordered and we can put one on the shelf.

**Mmmpi**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
So is the new box basically sold out everywhere?

My nearest store has one in English and one in Japanese, but I don't think he delivers outside of Japan.

**Adeptus Doritos**

Mmmpi wrote:
My nearest store has one in English and one in Japanese, but I don't think he delivers outside of Japan.

If you're in Okinawa, he could go through the USMC base there to ship something. Their postal service is generally willing to help local nationals.

**Mmmpi**

Adeptus Doritos wrote:
Mmmpi wrote:
My nearest store has one in English and one in Japanese, but I don't think he delivers outside of Japan.

If you're in Okinawa, he could go through the USMC base there to ship something. Their postal service is generally willing to help local nationals.

Nope, Kyushu, and pretty close to the northern end of the island at that.

**alextroy**

Adeptus Doritos wrote:
I'm still not seeing if Ministorum priests can work with them- Taddeus the Purifier and Pious Vorne would be nice additions to the army.

Taddeus the Purifier is a Ministorum Priest so he is good to go for a Adepta Sororitas detachment. Pious Vorne will keep you from being an Adepta Sororitas detachment, but will not prevent you from getting Sacred Rites for your army as she is is not the proper unit for exclusion in the detachment rules but is Adeptus Ministorum.

**tneva82**

Dysartes wrote:
deviantduck wrote:
EnTyme wrote:
AngryAngel80 wrote:
That said, no way to judge the sisters before we get any game time in with the different options.

What do you expect DakkaDakka to do? Not pre-judge the strength of an army based only on partial information about the codex?
It's not pre-judgement. Everyone has seen the new codex

No, they haven't.

Well okay if they haven't WANTED to see the codex they have. Anybody who wants to see can have seen it fully already. So not seeing is choise.

**AngryAngel80**

Crazyterran wrote:
I remember when the new Space Marine book came out and people were lamenting it was UP and no one would play it.

I remember that too, it's almost like not everyone knew the marines would be OP without all the time spent to actually try them out first. So maybe, we should all give it a few weeks after release to see some builds with all their stuff available and see how it ends up ? I also think however we are seeing the marine super doctrines are an outlier and not the way the books or factions are going to be, at least going by the power curve sisters do seem to be on. Which to me look good, just not on par with the marines maybe.

However, with all that said, we won't know for sure until we get them all out and tested in the game and not just look at the rules and lament their fate.

**Adeptus Doritos**

alextroy wrote:
Adeptus Doritos wrote:
I'm still not seeing if Ministorum priests can work with them- Taddeus the Purifier and Pious Vorne would be nice additions to the army.
Taddeus the Purifier is a Ministorum Priest so he is good to go for a Adepta Sororitas detachment. Pious Vorne will keep you from being an Adepta Sororitas detachment, but will not prevent you from getting Sacred Rites for your army as she is is not the proper unit for exclusion in the detachment rules but is Adeptus Ministorum.

Ah, cool. Thanks for the info.

I'm kind of sad that we didn't get the Imperial Agents 7th edition treatment for Inquisitors this time around.

It would have been cool to take an Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor (Greyfax) alongside an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor (Eisenhorn) as HQ's with some Sororitas and Deathwatch, with some Scions to make a Battalion detachment.

**inflatablefriend**

Booo... Managed to find two boxes in Italian but none in English!

**Imateria**

AngryAngel80 wrote:
Crazyterran wrote:
I remember when the new Space Marine book came out and people were lamenting it was UP and no one would play it.

I remember that too, it's almost like not everyone knew the marines would be OP without all the time spent to actually try them out first. So maybe, we should all give it a few weeks after release to see some builds with all their stuff available and see how it ends up ? I also think however we are seeing the marine super doctrines are an outlier and not the way the books or factions are going to be, at least going by the power curve sisters do seem to be on. Which to me look good, just not on par with the marines maybe.

However, with all that said, we won't know for sure until we get them all out and tested in the game and not just look at the rules and lament their fate.

You must be talking about the codex from 2 years ago, because everybody and their dog saw the new one to be a massive jump in power long before it hit the shelves.

**Captain Joystick**

Adeptus Doritos wrote:
It would have been cool to take an Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor (Greyfax) alongside an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor (Eisenhorn) as HQ's with some Sororitas and Deathwatch, with some Scions to make a Battalion detachment.

I mean the only thing you can't do for this is add Greyfax and Eisenhorn to the same detachment, you can put one into one pure Deathwatch or Sororitas detachment and the other in a soupy detachment of scions and whatever power armour faction you left out and you're off to the races.

Yeah, it's watered down and barely makes sense from a lore perspective, but Imperial Agents had that going for it too.

**Kid_Kyoto**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Kid_Kyoto wrote:
So is the new box basically sold out everywhere?
Except for physical copies shipped to stores. So if you have a GW nearby you could get one in a week's time, but you'll need to be there early.

I remember when Shadow War Armageddon came out. I was at GW before it opened, the first in line, several behind me. The store was allocated 5 copies IIRC. They were all gone by the time I walked out of the store.

Ah Shadow War Armageddon, wasn't that worth the investment.

#DOA

**the_scotsman**

AngryAngel80 wrote:
BoomWolf wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Lanlaorn wrote:
I also don't understand the point of Penitent Engines compared to Mortifiers.
Penitent Engines are not a new unit. People own Penitent engines. No one owns Motifiers. Mortifiers have better rules. People need to buy the new kit to get Mortifiers.

New model selling 101. How else you gonna sell Malibu Stacey's new ~~flails~~ hat.

. Not again with this stupid rhetoric
For every great new model, two with bad rules come out, it's just that nobody makes a fuss about them and they get forgotten.

GW ain't perfect at balance, and making glaring mistakes is nothing new.
Over valuing zealot and the improved fnp sounds exactly like GW. (though to be fair, 4+ reroll is better than 3+, and the pent cares not about BS)

GW sucks at balance but they do tend to make dual kits seemingly with one version kinda crap, the one that was around forever, and one version actually good or omg good even until they get nerfed down the line.

Some examples ? Ogryn/Bullgryns, Hydra/Wyvern, Manticore/Deathstrike though in all fairness the manticore deathstrike kit was new to plastic for the manticore so in this instance the old model was much much better than the new one.

They do tend to have a trend that in dual kits one is good, the other not so much. Now thats either done out of complete lack of understanding of their own rules, or to be sure they push at least one half of a dual kit so it's sold.

I'm sure there are more examples but I'm not going to just list them all out here.

So which one is it, do they hold all the game design ability of a pair of mutton chops or do they actively try their best to push at least one half of a dual kit with better rules at least in so far as they can understand the rules they write ?

Counterpoints:

Strike Team/Breachers
Hybrid Acolytes/Hybrid Metamorphs
Immortals/Deathmarks
Scions/Scion Command Squad (Everybody had Stormtroopers)

**Mr_Rose**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Kid_Kyoto wrote:
So is the new box basically sold out everywhere?
Except for physical copies shipped to stores. So if you have a GW nearby you could get one in a week's time, but you'll need to be there early.

I remember when Shadow War Armageddon came out. I was at GW before it opened, the first in line, several behind me. The store was allocated 5 copies IIRC. They were all gone by the time I walked out of the store.

Ah Shadow War Armageddon, wasn't that worth the investment.

#DOA

You mean that neat discount terrain box?

**deviantduck**

My FLGS has 16 boxes confirmed coming in and only 9 pre-orders.

**drbored**

Word from my local GW is 'we have no idea how many we are getting, so get there early. Like, before store opens, early.'

**Sim-Life**

Why are GW holding off on the ToSK and Battle Sanctum reveal? Just show it already you butts.