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I was in a match, my orks vs Dark Eldar, versing someone i have never played before but heard a lot about from our flgs. First turn the guy is a jerk, he went first and moved all his raiders and ravengers to 30 inches away, since my lootas range is 36. I see that he measured and then turned his ship, so during my turn I fired with my lootas and he laughs and says he has nightshields, I told him that i know what they are and im still shooting at 29 inches. he throws a fit saying im cheating with my ruler. Then calls my lootas overpowered since i rolled a 6 on the d3, fired 15 shots into a raider, he gets pissy at me for doing that, killing off a 85 point model, while during his turn he kills off 150 points of killakans. I told him to make better judgment on premeasuring everything. Turn 3 my dakka jet comes in and he is screaming OP at me since he said dark eldar have do not have any good flyers. told him my 135 point flier is just fine, his 145 flyer with 2 dark lances, splinter cannon, and 4 missiles stock is plenty fine. not my fault he thinks it sucks and didnt want to get an ageis defense line, (he has the flier in his army box, just didnt bring it) Turn 5 he was beating me through questionable rolls, overly powerfull grotesques, and among other things, my friends are just watching and wondering why I am putting up with it, I dont know either really, just didnt think he would be that bad, cursing, yelling, throwing dice across the room, all in front of his 5 year old kid, he is 35. he beats me 6 to 4 kill points, and im just glad its over. never playing him again, anyone else have stories like this about TFG?

35 years old?!

Its dickless dweebs like that who give us all a bad reputation!

I would have quit turn 2.

I would be very upset if I explicitly measured and had models 30" away and next turn, a model which was not supposed to have moved in any way was somehow closer.

Not sure how he should have "made better judgement on pre-measuring" when measuring is an exact thing and not guestimates of ranges. If my Opponent measures 30" and says he is measuring 30" to be out of range for a piece of wargear and I agree he is outside 30" then my turn suddenly measure and am somehow in range, that is a dick move and sets a negative tone for the entire battle.

Being an ork with Deffrollas, people in 6th explicitly state "I am 13" away from your deffrolla, see the measurement, do you agree?" Now that pre-measure is in the game... it makes me a dick to say "maybe? maybe not? we will see when I measure if I am or not."

Cool story bro.

when he measured he was 30 away, then he twisted the base to provide cover for behind his units, so he moved the hull. that gave me what i needed. was really just a vent session after the match. so he screwed himself up, had nothing to do with him measuring "wrong" he twisted the hull after it so that moved the hull closer to me to give me 29 inch distance. was more looking at the poor sportsmenship and childish attitude of screaming and yelling, throwing stuff, not as much on that I was able to kill one raider with a group of lootas

nkelsch - If the guy cant measure and he is 35, there is a slight issue.
Just because a player says he is/has doing/done something, does not mean he has.

wow, I mean I coulda cut a kid some slack but if he HAS a kid there is no excuse....

some people.... GAWD!

Um, Yeah, This one Apoc game.
This guy first
1: Has more then half his army in reserve(not allowed)
2: Has SW in storm ravens(he didnt paint them that way though)
3: Is a jerk. Says he will complain to phill kelly about seachlights need to be changed for superheavys
and now the searchight fiasco.
Turn one, my attack bikes are going for some necron booty. He shoots a bane blade at them, fires his guns. then tries to fir the search light, the fire the other weapons. Now the new searchlights says after all weapons are fire only they can be fired. he doesn't like that. Now im not a rules lawyer or a TFG by nature, but if i come in contact with one, i can summon my inner TFG to counter him. I then brought my rule book out to show him, he didnt believe me and tried to tear MY 80$ hard back rule book from me nearly taking it. This is the second time he tried to rip my rule book, Before it was about how he wanted to use a blast template on a flyer with a model with skyfire. The rule book says no, and he nearly tried to rip my BRB from me

 Jackal wrote:
nkelsch - If the guy cant measure and he is 35, there is a slight issue.
Just because a player says he is/has doing/done something, does not mean he has.

Yeah, same can be said for the person who says he measured 29"and then went to the internet to tell a one-sided bitchfest.

40k is not Yu-gi-oh where you are waiting to unveil your trap card and I suspect the OPs recounting of things...

The thread is bunk. But I do have problems when people pre-measure openly then suddenly that which was just premeasured is now suddenly shorter or longer somehow...

So all by its self an object changes distance?

No, the chap in question shot himself in the foot by measuring (all fine at this point) and then proceeding to turn it to give cover.

If you have not noticed, a raider is alot longer than it is wide, so turning it on the spot after movement will reduce the distance.

 Jackal wrote:
So all by its self an object changes distance?

No, the chap in question shot himself in the foot by measuring (all fine at this point) and then proceeding to turn it to give cover.

If you have not noticed, a raider is alot longer than it is wide, so turning it on the spot after movement will reduce the distance.

So says Op...

Besides... if I knew he was intentionally making a move and intentionally confirming distance to use his wargear, when he moved to no longer be able to use, I would have said "you are no longer 30" you know that?"

That is good sportsmanship...

I don't believe 1-sided internet whines... no one is ever as wrong and childish as the OP says.

Guys like that think they are the exception to acting civilized and others should/will put up with their lack of social skills and general dysfunction. I won't play them. I hold these types in the same category as cheaters. No exceptions.

If in an RTT(don't play GT) I will ask the individual to ground themselves and notify the TO of stray voltage. Thankfully, it's never had to get past this stage.

nkelsch wrote:

 Jackal wrote:
So all by its self an object changes distance?

No, the chap in question shot himself in the foot by measuring (all fine at this point) and then proceeding to turn it to give cover.

If you have not noticed, a raider is alot longer than it is wide, so turning it on the spot after movement will reduce the distance.

So says Op...

Besides... if I knew he was intentionally making a move and intentionally confirming distance to use his wargear, when he moved to no longer be able to use, I would have said "you are no longer 30" you know that?"

That is good sportsmanship...

I don't believe 1-sided internet whines... no one is ever as wrong and childish as the OP says.

Have to disagree with you there. Some people are that childish. Some even more so. You ever watch the shows Cops or Jerry Springer?

nkelsch wrote:
... no one is ever as wrong and childish as the OP says.

Plenty of people are like that, and many of them play 40k.

 snooggums wrote:

nkelsch wrote:
... no one is ever as wrong and childish as the OP says.

Plenty of people are like that, and many of them play 40k.

Agreed.

 Jackal wrote:
nkelsch - If the guy cant measure and he is 35, there is a slight issue.
Just because a player says he is/has doing/done something, does not mean he has.

Which is technically true, but way too often those magically changing distances are because of the other guy giving his model a little bump closer after you've measured. If I'd measured range and found it to be X and then next turn, without moving any of the models involved, it was Y I'd be pretty annoyed about it if my opponent tried to claim the more favorable distance.

conker249 wrote:
when he measured he was 30 away, then he twisted the base to provide cover for behind his units, so he moved the hull. that gave me what i needed. was really just a vent session after the match. so he screwed himself up, had nothing to do with him measuring "wrong" he twisted the hull after it so that moved the hull closer to me to give me 29 inch distance. was more looking at the poor sportsmenship and childish attitude of screaming and yelling, throwing stuff, not as much on that I was able to kill one raider with a group of lootas

Friend of mine did that the other day, had a rune priest leave one squad and join another, he measured 18"s to my attack bikes so he could cast a power then he relised his rune priest was at the front of the squad so moved him behind two of the marines leaving him outside of the 18" 's and then admitted he forgot he had measured. Simple mistake but all was taken in good spirit, the guy you played against sounds like TFG if he cant admit to his own mistake

Why dont I ever meet jerks like this over a game, that would be so much fun

 Pyriel- wrote:
Why dont I ever meet jerks like this over a game, that would be so much fun

agreed! I've never had anyone go crazy in the middle of a game

About 10-12 years ago, I was the employee at my FLGS that ran the RTTs. I always dreaded when one guy would show up. He would bring his kid (then about 10 years old) to play in the tournament as well and the kid was fine. But the dad would scream and rant and yell and throw dice if he wasn't getting his way. Heaven forbid if a questioned ruling didn't match what he wanted. So yeah, some people are that immature. I just hope his kid learned better than what the dad was teaching him.

Wow, feel bad for the kid. Those are the kinds of parents I keep reading about who get in fist fights at grammar school sporting events, I mean really.

Yes, there are PLENTY of turds out there so the OP's story rings true.

Age means nothing. A 35 year old can be as ridiculous as a teenager.. it's all about personality.

However, coming to Dakka to vent frustration is just as childish in my opinion and contributes nothing to the forum.

 Pyriel- wrote:
Why dont I ever meet jerks like this over a game, that would be so much fun

It happend to me in the past, but since my former gaming circle went and commited collective suicide, I no longer find myself troubeld by fools when I play 40k anymore. Its a very pleasent feeling to have a sane opponent

Not to mention the fact that Lootas have a 48" range :-P so being 30-36" away won't help him (even with night shields).

 CaptainJay wrote:
Not to mention the fact that Lootas have a 48" range :-P so being 30-36" away won't help him (even with night shields).

This statement is full of win.

That and they could just walk closer and fire anyway, albiet firing Snap Shots IIRC. When you normally only hit on 5+, hitting on 6+ isn't that bad.

Uhlan wrote:
Yes, there are PLENTY of turds out there so the OP's story rings true.

Age means nothing. A 35 year old can be as ridiculous as a teenager.. it's all about personality.

However, coming to Dakka to vent frustration is just as childish in my opinion and contributes nothing to the forum.

In what way is starting a conversation childish?

nkelsch wrote:
... no one is ever as wrong and childish as the OP says

As the survivor of a hurled (metal) dread attack, I beg to differ!

Yeah.

Some gamers are ridiculously childish.

I've seen 'whoops...sorry' broken models and thrown land raiders.

I've seen one guy jump up and down on another guy's monolith when he couldn't kill it in game.

I've seen fistfights over rules interpretation and weeping fits over the loss of a perfect w/l/d record..

Trust me, there are indeed folk like this out there..

Grown men who act as children, not limited to meatspace any longer...

Anywho, the best thing you can do is not let it burn you out. I've seen it happen quite a few times where someone got cheated or played a TFG and left the game. As long as you don't let that happen to you, you've already won.

That is just absolutely terrible!
At my FLGS I have walked around watching battles taking place in the past and have seen people acting like this.
I just dont understand the mentality of people like that, why play the game if you are just going to throw accusations and act like a right idiot to your opponent?
I think people must just take the game too seriously these days and become too competitive... because when I play, I play for the fun value alone win or lose.