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LFD, great game, beat em all on legendary or whatever the hard difficulty was, that game was my 2009 summer...good times.

coolyo294 wrote:My Dachshund, Lilly, kills mice like it's no one's business. She's also been known to attack the UPS guy.

Team Wienie supports any and all attempts to take down the UPS guy. He's going down!


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FITZZ wrote: Y'know Frazz, that's another reason you should read World War Z, in the segments discussing the use of dogs against zombies...Weiner dogs figure highly as very useful.

Sckitzo wrote:I find rotting animals to smell worse then rotting people, and most dogs will eat dead crap.

I watched a dog step OUT of a horses chest cavity in Iraq, it was July and like 130F out, I damn near lost my lunch when we drove by that. Just imagine this bloated, decaying horse with it's legs sticking straight out, and as you drive by it this mutt steps out, all slicked down with gore, munching away happily with his tail wagging.

In my top 5 nastiest things ever seen. That smell still haunts me. Though I don't think we'll see maggots on Zombies, because maggots means things can survive eating them, and if that is the case they should decay pretty damn fast.

And, just to play Devils Advocate, what if their not Shamblers (Romero) but Ragers (28Days/Weeks).

Lately the zombie trend has been going away from magic/radiation/cosmic influence and into Bio Weapons and Chemical leaks. At first I sorta despised that part of the Genre, and refused to admit the Ragers from 28 Days were zombies, but I suppose I can work with it now, especially after playing so much L4D and L4D2....

That's...pretty damn foul, though I to have witnessed dogs do some nasty gak...still...your story tops anything I've seen.

As for " running" zombies, I'm firmly in the "dead things don't run" camp...but, if it's Infected people , like 28 Days/Weeks later or Qaurintine..then the battle plan is drasticly altered...stand and shoot plans are out the window and emphasis would have to be on run and gun/ high level sniping.
On the upside, with "Infected" your not limited to head shots for the kill...and anti- personal weapons become increasingly effective.

FITZZ wrote:

Sckitzo wrote:I find rotting animals to smell worse then rotting people, and most dogs will eat dead crap.

I watched a dog step OUT of a horses chest cavity in Iraq, it was July and like 130F out, I damn near lost my lunch when we drove by that. Just imagine this bloated, decaying horse with it's legs sticking straight out, and as you drive by it this mutt steps out, all slicked down with gore, munching away happily with his tail wagging.

In my top 5 nastiest things ever seen. That smell still haunts me. Though I don't think we'll see maggots on Zombies, because maggots means things can survive eating them, and if that is the case they should decay pretty damn fast.

And, just to play Devils Advocate, what if their not Shamblers (Romero) but Ragers (28Days/Weeks).

Lately the zombie trend has been going away from magic/radiation/cosmic influence and into Bio Weapons and Chemical leaks. At first I sorta despised that part of the Genre, and refused to admit the Ragers from 28 Days were zombies, but I suppose I can work with it now, especially after playing so much L4D and L4D2....

That's...pretty damn foul, though I to have witnessed dogs do some nasty gak...still...your story tops anything I've seen.

As for " running" zombies, I'm firmly in the "dead things don't run" camp...but, if it's Infected people , like 28 Days/Weeks later or Qaurintine..then the battle plan is drasticly altered...stand and shoot plans are out the window and emphasis would have to be on run and gun/ high level sniping.
On the upside, with "Infected" your not limited to head shots for the kill...and anti- personal weapons become increasingly effective.

I'm ok with infected version. They get sick and die quickly. Illnesses will run rampant through them, and if you don't eat you starve. There's a reason rabies is so rare, its just not a very effective vector.

Frazzled wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Sckitzo wrote:I find rotting animals to smell worse then rotting people, and most dogs will eat dead crap.

I watched a dog step OUT of a horses chest cavity in Iraq, it was July and like 130F out, I damn near lost my lunch when we drove by that. Just imagine this bloated, decaying horse with it's legs sticking straight out, and as you drive by it this mutt steps out, all slicked down with gore, munching away happily with his tail wagging.

In my top 5 nastiest things ever seen. That smell still haunts me. Though I don't think we'll see maggots on Zombies, because maggots means things can survive eating them, and if that is the case they should decay pretty damn fast.

And, just to play Devils Advocate, what if their not Shamblers (Romero) but Ragers (28Days/Weeks).

Lately the zombie trend has been going away from magic/radiation/cosmic influence and into Bio Weapons and Chemical leaks. At first I sorta despised that part of the Genre, and refused to admit the Ragers from 28 Days were zombies, but I suppose I can work with it now, especially after playing so much L4D and L4D2....

That's...pretty damn foul, though I to have witnessed dogs do some nasty gak...still...your story tops anything I've seen.

As for " running" zombies, I'm firmly in the "dead things don't run" camp...but, if it's Infected people , like 28 Days/Weeks later or Qaurintine..then the battle plan is drasticly altered...stand and shoot plans are out the window and emphasis would have to be on run and gun/ high level sniping.
On the upside, with "Infected" your not limited to head shots for the kill...and anti- personal weapons become increasingly effective.

I'm ok with infected version. They get sick and die quickly. Illnesses will run rampant through them, and if you don't eat you starve. There's a reason rabies is so rare, its just not a very effective vector.

Yes, aside from the " running" aspect, infected humans would be preferable to actual "Zombies", infected humans would starve eventually, zombies won't.
Infected Humans still have all of our "weakness", an anti-personal mine blowing their legs off will eventually kill them, instead of just leaving a legless zombie...
Napalm and gas attacks would kill infected humans, not so with the actaul "Walking Dead"..
Yeah, Infected Humans would clearly be preferable ...even if they could run.

Silly people this is how the zombie apocalypse happens

http://youtu.be/9JyN6Obi7eI

Skycrawler wrote:Silly people this is how the zombie apocalypse happens

http://youtu.be/9JyN6Obi7eI

Spoiler:

So when the gak hits the fan we can all blame Toshiba and milk

i love that commercial! let it happen! PLEASE!

I find the T-virus to be neat, it reanimates dead tissue, and mutates living tissue.

Skycrawler wrote:Silly people this is how the zombie apocalypse happens

http://youtu.be/9JyN6Obi7eI

Spoiler:

So when the gak hits the fan we can all blame Toshiba and milk

That commercial makes my kids laugh every time it comes on, they call it "Daddy's Commercial".
...Strange that my offspring would identify me with zombies...

FITZZ wrote:

Skycrawler wrote:Silly people this is how the zombie apocalypse happens

http://youtu.be/9JyN6Obi7eI

Spoiler:

So when the gak hits the fan we can all blame Toshiba and milk

That commercial makes my kids laugh every time it comes on, they call it "Daddy's Commercial".
...Strange that my offspring would identify me with zombies...

It would be strange if they didn't. FITZZ, you are the KING of the zombies.

Chowderhead wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Skycrawler wrote:Silly people this is how the zombie apocalypse happens

http://youtu.be/9JyN6Obi7eI

Spoiler:

So when the gak hits the fan we can all blame Toshiba and milk

That commercial makes my kids laugh every time it comes on, they call it "Daddy's Commercial".
...Strange that my offspring would identify me with zombies...

It would be strange if they didn't. FITZZ, you are the KING of the zombies.

all hail FITZZ,king of zombie knowledge!

remilia_scarlet wrote:I find the T-virus to be neat, it reanimates dead tissue, and mutates living tissue.

yeah,cool,but very unlikely to happen

If you watch one the 28's, there is a scene where a infected is walking around missing a arm, which leads to believe they don't bleed out for some weird reason.

Sckitzo wrote:If you watch one the 28's, there is a scene where a infected is walking around missing a arm, which leads to believe they don't bleed out for some weird reason.

I noticed that as well, along with many of the "infected" taking rounds that would drop a "normal" human yet they kept coming...which I attributed to the virus effects, sort of like trying to put down an individule on PCP.
...As for why the Infected with the missing arm hadn't bled out..???...recent wound, virus alters metabolism,...???

Yeah I recall the pcp analogy being made in 28 weeks (I may be wong).

As for the arm, the blood had probably clotted.

corpsesarefun wrote:Yeah I recall the pcp analogy being made in 28 weeks (I may be wong).

As for the arm, the blood had probably clotted.

Quick search ...It seems that the "Rage Virus" shuts down all parts of the infected brain with the exception of those pertaining to violence and aggresion (?), furthermore it constantly pumps adrenaline into the host body,resulting in it's ability to shrug off many wounds.

Rabies does cook your brain more or less (well causes the body to cook it via fever) and PCP is a hell of a drug, I think you would need to treat ragers like that, a shot to the CNS or destroy a joint, massive blast trauma would do it also.

I mean, which would you rather have, slow shamblers that don't rot, but are fairly mindless but require a head shot to destroy.
Or fast ragers, that will eventually starve to death (in a few months IIRC?) that can be killed easier (but not that much)

I'm sorta going with the hope it's shamblers my self...

Or Thriller zombies, they dance, I run.

Look, an outbreak of thriller zombies in Asia!

To be honest my main problem in the event of a zombie invasion would be what to do with my guinea pigs.

Sckitzo wrote:Rabies does cook your brain more or less (well causes the body to cook it via fever) and PCP is a hell of a drug, I think you would need to treat ragers like that, a shot to the CNS or destroy a joint, massive blast trauma would do it also.

I mean, which would you rather have, slow shamblers that don't rot, but are fairly mindless but require a head shot to destroy.
Or fast ragers, that will eventually starve to death (in a few months IIRC?) that can be killed easier (but not that much)

I'm sorta going with the hope it's shamblers my self...

Or Thriller zombies, they dance, I run.

Did it take months for the "Ragers" to starve?...well, yes...I suppose for all of them to eventualy starve it did, but still...that's not a terribly long time overall, when compared to several years or better for decay to immobilize a zombie.
Overall I can see both pros and cons to each, my leaning towards "ragers" simply hinges on the easier to kill factor...

And no Thriller Zombies...I see a horde of dancing zombies with Mikey Jackson leading them...I'm nuking everything.


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corpsesarefun wrote:To be honest my main problem in the event of a zombie invasion would be what to do with my guinea pigs.

Hmm...pan fried or stew?...JK corpses JK.

You guys better start getting some target practice in


http://omegatargets.com/


Take some of those to the range

FITZZ wrote:

Sckitzo wrote:Rabies does cook your brain more or less (well causes the body to cook it via fever) and PCP is a hell of a drug, I think you would need to treat ragers like that, a shot to the CNS or destroy a joint, massive blast trauma would do it also.

I mean, which would you rather have, slow shamblers that don't rot, but are fairly mindless but require a head shot to destroy.
Or fast ragers, that will eventually starve to death (in a few months IIRC?) that can be killed easier (but not that much)

I'm sorta going with the hope it's shamblers my self...

Or Thriller zombies, they dance, I run.

Did it take months for the "Ragers" to starve?...well, yes...I suppose for all of them to eventualy starve it did, but still...that's not a terribly long time overall, when compared to several years or better for decay to immobilize a zombie.
Overall I can see both pros and cons to each, my leaning towards "ragers" simply hinges on the easier to kill factor...

And no Thriller Zombies...I see a horde of dancing zombies with Mikey Jackson leading them...I'm nuking everything.


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corpsesarefun wrote:To be honest my main problem in the event of a zombie invasion would be what to do with my guinea pigs.

Hmm...pan fried or stew?...JK corpses JK.

Oh admit it, you werent joking. I was thinking the same thing. Keep those pigs alive long enough to be a decent food source for a few days. And after that, they are big enough to make gloves or socks out of!

KingCracker wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Sckitzo wrote:Rabies does cook your brain more or less (well causes the body to cook it via fever) and PCP is a hell of a drug, I think you would need to treat ragers like that, a shot to the CNS or destroy a joint, massive blast trauma would do it also.

I mean, which would you rather have, slow shamblers that don't rot, but are fairly mindless but require a head shot to destroy.
Or fast ragers, that will eventually starve to death (in a few months IIRC?) that can be killed easier (but not that much)

I'm sorta going with the hope it's shamblers my self...

Or Thriller zombies, they dance, I run.

Did it take months for the "Ragers" to starve?...well, yes...I suppose for all of them to eventualy starve it did, but still...that's not a terribly long time overall, when compared to several years or better for decay to immobilize a zombie.
Overall I can see both pros and cons to each, my leaning towards "ragers" simply hinges on the easier to kill factor...

And no Thriller Zombies...I see a horde of dancing zombies with Mikey Jackson leading them...I'm nuking everything.


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corpsesarefun wrote:To be honest my main problem in the event of a zombie invasion would be what to do with my guinea pigs.

Hmm...pan fried or stew?...JK corpses JK.

Oh admit it, you werent joking. I was thinking the same thing. Keep those pigs alive long enough to be a decent food source for a few days. And after that, they are big enough to make gloves or socks out of!

Well...true, I hate to admit it...but if an animal doesn't serve any purpose other than being cute, once Z-Day is upon us...I'm going to be thinking of recipes.

I think its funny how some of the people on here think of the Zombie Outbreak..thing as a fun time.

It would be the end of the world as we know it, I can't even imagine it. Just having to live in a world like that..its mind boggling, really.

I wouldn't be escaping Chicago, not a chance in hell. Anyone that is outside of a city is has a chance, but the cities will basically turn into a bigass rock with a gakload of fire ants all over it.

Only if I found myself outside of the city would I even consider going on and trying to survive. I just can't handle the thought of being eaten alive and hunted by such beings, I still wince at that scene of Shaun of the Dead where the guy with the glasses is in the pub and is all like "feth YOU GUYS I'LL GO KILL ALL THE ZOMBIES MYSELF" and breaks the window and gets his stomach ripped open and eaten.

One shot to the head hopefully takes me out without any pain, always wondered how that would feel.

Karon wrote:I think its funny how some of the people on here think of the Zombie Outbreak..thing as a fun time.

It would be the end of the world as we know it, I can't even imagine it. Just having to live in a world like that..its mind boggling, really.

I wouldn't be escaping Chicago, not a chance in hell. Anyone that is outside of a city is has a chance, but the cities will basically turn into a bigass rock with a gakload of fire ants all over it.

Only if I found myself outside of the city would I even consider going on and trying to survive. I just can't handle the thought of being eaten alive and hunted by such beings, I still wince at that scene of Shaun of the Dead where the guy with the glasses is in the pub and is all like "feth YOU GUYS I'LL GO KILL ALL THE ZOMBIES MYSELF" and breaks the window and gets his stomach ripped open and eaten.

One shot to the head hopefully takes me out without any pain, always wondered how that would feel.

A. hell yeah it would be fun! screw this world of war and jobs and politics!

B. suicide? really? only as a last resort would i even possibly think of that. guess the zombie Apocalypse just isnt for everyone.

I can actually understand where Karon is coming from to a degree.
I live five/ten minutes from Atlanta ( can see the city from my window) and I know damn good and well should a zombie apocalypse ever happen that city is going to be a nightmare...pretty much every man, woman and child inside the city limits is going to die...and those that do survive are going to be surrounded by several million zombies...
Which is why at the first sign of trouble I plan to get as far from Atlanta as I can...

I would imagine for someone who's been trapped inside a major urban area, with perhaps a few weeks worth of food ( if that) and millions of flesh hungry dead just outside the door...the idea of just " cashing out" would begin to look more and more appealing with each passing day.


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@ Commissar Klimino...

" A. hell yeah it would be fun! screw this world of war and jobs and politics!"

...None of these things would be gone in a zombie Apoc situation...if anything they would be much much harsher...

War would be every where...in many cases War would be day to day survival.

Jobs?...If you hate flipping burgers just think how much your going to hate digging gak holes, or clearing dead bodies for burning...or the multitude of other dirty jobs you'll have to do to survive..

Politics...again, they won' t go anywhere...just alter form, you may find groups who operate diplomaticly ( though very rarely I'd suspect)...and your sure to find many who's politics is to shove a pistol into your face , cock the hammer and tell you it's their way or ..bang.

lord commissar klimino wrote:
A. hell yeah it would be fun! screw this world of war and jobs and politics!

B. suicide? really? only as a last resort would i even possibly think of that. guess the zombie Apocalypse just isnt for everyone.

A: Sure it may be fun untl you have to kill a relative or a friend. Jobs would only go from office to labor, and it would become more or less tribal with one guy on top who keeps his rule because he is the best man in the group or the strongest

B:Well if I got to the point where I only had a few rounds left the barrel of my gun would look awfully tasty......

Wardragoon wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:
A. hell yeah it would be fun! screw this world of war and jobs and politics!

B. suicide? really? only as a last resort would i even possibly think of that. guess the zombie Apocalypse just isnt for everyone.

A: Sure it may be fun untl you have to kill a relative or a friend. Jobs would only go from office to labor, and it would become more or less tribal with one guy on top who keeps his rule because he is the best man in the group or the strongest

B:Well if I got to the point where I only had a few rounds left the barrel of my gun would look awfully tasty......

A: sounds fun. ps i hate most of my family,so not much of a problem.

B: if you look even i aid if its that or become lunch,no other option,id do it to. only then. and id try to escape til the last possible second too.

FITZZ wrote: I can actually understand where Karon is coming from to a degree.
I live five/ten minutes from Atlanta ( can see the city from my window) and I know damn good and well should a zombie apocalypse ever happen that city is going to be a nightmare...pretty much every man, woman and child inside the city limits is going to die...and those that do survive are going to be surrounded by several million zombies...
Which is why at the first sign of trouble I plan to get as far from Atlanta as I can...

I would imagine for someone who's been trapped inside a major urban area, with perhaps a few weeks worth of food ( if that) and millions of flesh hungry dead just outside the door...the idea of just " cashing out" would begin to look more and more appealing with each passing day.


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@ Commissar Klimino...

" A. hell yeah it would be fun! screw this world of war and jobs and politics!"

...None of these things would be gone in a zombie Apoc situation...if anything they would be much much harsher...

War would be every where...in many cases War would be day to day survival.

Jobs?...If you hate flipping burgers just think how much your going to hate digging gak holes, or clearing dead bodies for burning...or the multitude of other dirty jobs you'll have to do to survive..

Politics...again, they won' t go anywhere...just alter form, you may find groups who operate diplomaticly ( though very rarely I'd suspect)...and your sure to find many who's politics is to shove a pistol into your face , cock the hammer and tell you it's their way or ..bang.

Pretty much, Zombie Apocalypse is fun to joke about as a sort of escapism, and I use it as a funny way to prep for real world disasters, but in all reality any PAW situation is going to be freaking horrible.

Watch the movie and/or read the book "The Road" I think the end of the world is going to be more like that than anything else...

Sckitzo wrote:

FITZZ wrote: I can actually understand where Karon is coming from to a degree.
I live five/ten minutes from Atlanta ( can see the city from my window) and I know damn good and well should a zombie apocalypse ever happen that city is going to be a nightmare...pretty much every man, woman and child inside the city limits is going to die...and those that do survive are going to be surrounded by several million zombies...
Which is why at the first sign of trouble I plan to get as far from Atlanta as I can...

I would imagine for someone who's been trapped inside a major urban area, with perhaps a few weeks worth of food ( if that) and millions of flesh hungry dead just outside the door...the idea of just " cashing out" would begin to look more and more appealing with each passing day.


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@ Commissar Klimino...

" A. hell yeah it would be fun! screw this world of war and jobs and politics!"

...None of these things would be gone in a zombie Apoc situation...if anything they would be much much harsher...

War would be every where...in many cases War would be day to day survival.

Jobs?...If you hate flipping burgers just think how much your going to hate digging gak holes, or clearing dead bodies for burning...or the multitude of other dirty jobs you'll have to do to survive..

Politics...again, they won' t go anywhere...just alter form, you may find groups who operate diplomaticly ( though very rarely I'd suspect)...and your sure to find many who's politics is to shove a pistol into your face , cock the hammer and tell you it's their way or ..bang.

Pretty much, Zombie Apocalypse is fun to joke about as a sort of escapism, and I use it as a funny way to prep for real world disasters, but in all reality any PAW situation is going to be freaking horrible.

Watch the movie and/or read the book "The Road" I think the end of the world is going to be more like that than anything else...

to both.

i dont fully care. im all for the "freedom" it would give me. and if you really need me to say something to 'end this'. if you look im not exactly normal,now am i? i agree those things would still be around,just id enjoy it cause of the "simple things". no more annoying family. no more obama and other annoying politicians. im hanging out with my friends more often,and if their dead more supplies for me. id be less lazy. id get to (re) kill stuff. the only people who are going to boss me around are probably other humans who are going to kill me anyways so i might as well not obey and fight til the bitter end. id get vto fight every day almost to.

yeah...call me and optimistic if it helps.

Sckitzo wrote:

FITZZ wrote: I can actually understand where Karon is coming from to a degree.
I live five/ten minutes from Atlanta ( can see the city from my window) and I know damn good and well should a zombie apocalypse ever happen that city is going to be a nightmare...pretty much every man, woman and child inside the city limits is going to die...and those that do survive are going to be surrounded by several million zombies...
Which is why at the first sign of trouble I plan to get as far from Atlanta as I can...

I would imagine for someone who's been trapped inside a major urban area, with perhaps a few weeks worth of food ( if that) and millions of flesh hungry dead just outside the door...the idea of just " cashing out" would begin to look more and more appealing with each passing day.


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@ Commissar Klimino...

" A. hell yeah it would be fun! screw this world of war and jobs and politics!"

...None of these things would be gone in a zombie Apoc situation...if anything they would be much much harsher...

War would be every where...in many cases War would be day to day survival.

Jobs?...If you hate flipping burgers just think how much your going to hate digging gak holes, or clearing dead bodies for burning...or the multitude of other dirty jobs you'll have to do to survive..

Politics...again, they won' t go anywhere...just alter form, you may find groups who operate diplomaticly ( though very rarely I'd suspect)...and your sure to find many who's politics is to shove a pistol into your face , cock the hammer and tell you it's their way or ..bang.

Pretty much, Zombie Apocalypse is fun to joke about as a sort of escapism, and I use it as a funny way to prep for real world disasters, but in all reality any PAW situation is going to be freaking horrible.

Watch the movie and/or read the book "The Road" I think the end of the world is going to be more like that than anything else...

I read "The Road" a few years ago...thought it was pretty good haven't seen the film.

Obviously, I spend a lot of time musing about Apoc situations...and the one thing that always amuses me is hearing about how much "fun" it would be.
I often wonder how much " fun" these same people will be having when they have to have a bullet dug out of their body with out benefit of anistetic...or have to have their leg removed with a hacksaw because it's gone gangrenous.
Life and death situations, particularly on a global scale aren't /wouldn't be "fun"...it would be harsh and unforgiving....with no "Restart button" when you die.