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And yet they are always seen tearing their victims apart? How do they know the manwich they are eating isn't a zombie? How do they distinguish zombies from animals?

How often do you see animals eating decayed, rotten and diseased flesh in the wild?

my dogs eat disgusting crap in my backyard all of the time...even though i think one of them is a little "different"

Frazzled wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

FITZZ wrote: According to the majority of the fiction the consumption of zombie flesh is leathal to most forms of life...
So any animal ( carrion) who eats zombie flesh would be dead in a matter of hours..
This condition is also used to explain a zombies longevity ...as most parasitic life forms ( who would under normal conditions reduce a corpse to bone in a matter of days/weeks) avoid consuming zombie flesh due to it's toxic nature.

i was thinking along those line.thanks. also it seems zombies would eat animals to.

Again, that depends on the fiction you read/watch...in some cases zombies will ignore any living thing that isn't human...in other films/books they will attack any living animal they can get hold of.
I lean towards the train of thought that zombies would attempt to consume any living flesh the come in contact with..but that the transferance of the virus only occurs in humans...for example, a dog that has been fed upon will simply die...whereas a human who has been fed upon would reanimate.

yea tbut that blows the whole zombie theory though, as the zombies would literally eat each other and boom! plague over.

...How so?...zombies would have no interest in eating each other as they are not " living flesh" but reanimated corpses.

And yet they are always seen tearing their victims apart? How do they know the manwich they are eating isn't a zombie? How do they distinguish zombies from animals?

Frazz...you really should give Max Brook's a read my friend.

Basicly ( and this is Romero/Brooks type zombies) the dead can sense necrotic flesh ( either through smell or by some other means as of yet unknown) and will not attempt to consume it.
So, they won't attack each other, since they are already dead, nor will they eat the flesh of a body that has been dead for longer than 10-12 hours.

dajobe wrote:my dogs eat disgusting crap in my backyard all of the time...even though i think one of them is a little "different"

my dog has killed 2 rabbits.one was a pet. the 1st one was wild and he dropped it at my dads feet all proud like. lets hope zombies are slow like they should be.


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FITZZ wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

FITZZ wrote: According to the majority of the fiction the consumption of zombie flesh is leathal to most forms of life...
So any animal ( carrion) who eats zombie flesh would be dead in a matter of hours..
This condition is also used to explain a zombies longevity ...as most parasitic life forms ( who would under normal conditions reduce a corpse to bone in a matter of days/weeks) avoid consuming zombie flesh due to it's toxic nature.

i was thinking along those line.thanks. also it seems zombies would eat animals to.

Again, that depends on the fiction you read/watch...in some cases zombies will ignore any living thing that isn't human...in other films/books they will attack any living animal they can get hold of.
I lean towards the train of thought that zombies would attempt to consume any living flesh the come in contact with..but that the transferance of the virus only occurs in humans...for example, a dog that has been fed upon will simply die...whereas a human who has been fed upon would reanimate.

yea tbut that blows the whole zombie theory though, as the zombies would literally eat each other and boom! plague over.

...How so?...zombies would have no interest in eating each other as they are not " living flesh" but reanimated corpses.

And yet they are always seen tearing their victims apart? How do they know the manwich they are eating isn't a zombie? How do they distinguish zombies from animals?

Frazz...you really should give Max Brook's a read my friend.

Basicly ( and this is Romero/Brooks type zombies) the dead can sense necrotic flesh ( either through smell or by some other means as of yet unknown) and will not attempt to consume it.
So, they won't attack each other, since they are already dead, nor will they eat the flesh of a body that has been dead for longer than 10-12 hours.

i think its more of the smell. zombies can tell if your a zombie by if you smell like a rotting maggot sack or not. thats why in some versions humans can rub zombies guts on their clothing and not get attacked. ps if this works id so do it.

lord commissar klimino wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

FITZZ wrote: According to the majority of the fiction the consumption of zombie flesh is leathal to most forms of life...
So any animal ( carrion) who eats zombie flesh would be dead in a matter of hours..
This condition is also used to explain a zombies longevity ...as most parasitic life forms ( who would under normal conditions reduce a corpse to bone in a matter of days/weeks) avoid consuming zombie flesh due to it's toxic nature.

i was thinking along those line.thanks. also it seems zombies would eat animals to.

Again, that depends on the fiction you read/watch...in some cases zombies will ignore any living thing that isn't human...in other films/books they will attack any living animal they can get hold of.
I lean towards the train of thought that zombies would attempt to consume any living flesh the come in contact with..but that the transferance of the virus only occurs in humans...for example, a dog that has been fed upon will simply die...whereas a human who has been fed upon would reanimate.

yea tbut that blows the whole zombie theory though, as the zombies would literally eat each other and boom! plague over.

...How so?...zombies would have no interest in eating each other as they are not " living flesh" but reanimated corpses.

And yet they are always seen tearing their victims apart? How do they know the manwich they are eating isn't a zombie? How do they distinguish zombies from animals?

smell.zombies smell bad.

Worse than teenagers?

Frazzled wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

FITZZ wrote: According to the majority of the fiction the consumption of zombie flesh is leathal to most forms of life...
So any animal ( carrion) who eats zombie flesh would be dead in a matter of hours..
This condition is also used to explain a zombies longevity ...as most parasitic life forms ( who would under normal conditions reduce a corpse to bone in a matter of days/weeks) avoid consuming zombie flesh due to it's toxic nature.

i was thinking along those line.thanks. also it seems zombies would eat animals to.

Again, that depends on the fiction you read/watch...in some cases zombies will ignore any living thing that isn't human...in other films/books they will attack any living animal they can get hold of.
I lean towards the train of thought that zombies would attempt to consume any living flesh the come in contact with..but that the transferance of the virus only occurs in humans...for example, a dog that has been fed upon will simply die...whereas a human who has been fed upon would reanimate.

yea tbut that blows the whole zombie theory though, as the zombies would literally eat each other and boom! plague over.

...How so?...zombies would have no interest in eating each other as they are not " living flesh" but reanimated corpses.

And yet they are always seen tearing their victims apart? How do they know the manwich they are eating isn't a zombie? How do they distinguish zombies from animals?

smell.zombies smell bad.

Worse than teenagers?

yes. i do not smell like a rotting maggot sack.

very true,otherwise a zombie will be dropping my arm at the feet of some super zombie and the super zombie will say "silly zombie, that was mean...oh, i cant stay mad at you!"

smell.zombies smell bad.

So do bums, meth addicts, and soldiers who are deployed and haven't had a shower in a month.

Will that keep them safe from zombies?

Smell is considered to be a primary factor in how zombies " Hunt"...but again the fiction doesn't always agree on it's importance overall.
In some cases, smearing zombie internals on ones self can "camoflage" the fact your a human ( as seen in the Walking Dead)..but in other works of fiction ( WWZ/ZSG) this technique doesn't work and the zombies are still able to spot the living even if the living " smell" like the dead.

CptJake wrote:So do bums, meth addicts, and soldiers who are deployed and haven't had a shower in a month.

Will that keep them safe from zombies?

hopefully none of them are rotting and/or filled with maggots,so they wont smell like a zombie...so no,they will not be safe.

Bottom line: Until it happens we won't know what variety we are blessed with.

Best be flexible in your planning.

lord commissar klimino wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

FITZZ wrote: According to the majority of the fiction the consumption of zombie flesh is leathal to most forms of life...
So any animal ( carrion) who eats zombie flesh would be dead in a matter of hours..
This condition is also used to explain a zombies longevity ...as most parasitic life forms ( who would under normal conditions reduce a corpse to bone in a matter of days/weeks) avoid consuming zombie flesh due to it's toxic nature.

i was thinking along those line.thanks. also it seems zombies would eat animals to.

Again, that depends on the fiction you read/watch...in some cases zombies will ignore any living thing that isn't human...in other films/books they will attack any living animal they can get hold of.
I lean towards the train of thought that zombies would attempt to consume any living flesh the come in contact with..but that the transferance of the virus only occurs in humans...for example, a dog that has been fed upon will simply die...whereas a human who has been fed upon would reanimate.

yea tbut that blows the whole zombie theory though, as the zombies would literally eat each other and boom! plague over.

...How so?...zombies would have no interest in eating each other as they are not " living flesh" but reanimated corpses.

And yet they are always seen tearing their victims apart? How do they know the manwich they are eating isn't a zombie? How do they distinguish zombies from animals?

smell.zombies smell bad.

Worse than teenagers?

yes. i do not smell like a rotting maggot sack.

You positive on that? I really should be asking yur parents. I've found most teenagers smell like sweaty gym shorts and desperation. Zombies are worse? You mean like wiener dog breath worse? Before his surgery TBone's breath smelled like a combination of decaying meat and wet old man ass. Now his breath just smells like wet old man ass.


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Crom wrote:

And yet they are always seen tearing their victims apart? How do they know the manwich they are eating isn't a zombie? How do they distinguish zombies from animals?

How often do you see animals eating decayed, rotten and diseased flesh in the wild?

A lot. They're called vultures if they have wings, wiener dogs if they don't.

FITZZ wrote: Smell is considered to be a primary factor in how zombies " Hunt"...but again the fiction doesn't always agree on it's importance overall.
In some cases, smearing zombie internals on ones self can "camoflage" the fact your a human ( as seen in the Walking Dead)..but in other works of fiction ( WWZ/ZSG) this technique doesn't work and the zombies are still able to spot the living even if the living " smell" like the dead.

from what i hear and read. smell bad,but dont get close enough for them to see you arnt truly rotting.

lord commissar klimino wrote:

CptJake wrote:So do bums, meth addicts, and soldiers who are deployed and haven't had a shower in a month.

Will that keep them safe from zombies?

hopefully none of them are rotting and/or filled with maggots,so they wont smell like a zombie...so no,they will not be safe.

In the vast majority of zombie fiction, zombies aren't filled with maggots either...as the toxic nature of zombie flesh causes maggots and other organisms that would cause rapid decomposistion to avoid them.

By the way, since maggots eat the rotten meat, they may help mask the smell. There is even some use of maggots medically to eat away dead flesh around wounds to keep gangrene down.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/10/1024_031024_maggotmedicine.html

Frazzled wrote:

Crom wrote:

And yet they are always seen tearing their victims apart? How do they know the manwich they are eating isn't a zombie? How do they distinguish zombies from animals?

How often do you see animals eating decayed, rotten and diseased flesh in the wild?

A lot. They're called vultures if they have wings, wiener dogs if they don't.

....being an owner of one...I have to agree.

FITZZ wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

FITZZ wrote: According to the majority of the fiction the consumption of zombie flesh is leathal to most forms of life...
So any animal ( carrion) who eats zombie flesh would be dead in a matter of hours..
This condition is also used to explain a zombies longevity ...as most parasitic life forms ( who would under normal conditions reduce a corpse to bone in a matter of days/weeks) avoid consuming zombie flesh due to it's toxic nature.

i was thinking along those line.thanks. also it seems zombies would eat animals to.

Again, that depends on the fiction you read/watch...in some cases zombies will ignore any living thing that isn't human...in other films/books they will attack any living animal they can get hold of.
I lean towards the train of thought that zombies would attempt to consume any living flesh the come in contact with..but that the transferance of the virus only occurs in humans...for example, a dog that has been fed upon will simply die...whereas a human who has been fed upon would reanimate.

yea tbut that blows the whole zombie theory though, as the zombies would literally eat each other and boom! plague over.

Word. What about rage virus?

...How so?...zombies would have no interest in eating each other as they are not " living flesh" but reanimated corpses.

And yet they are always seen tearing their victims apart? How do they know the manwich they are eating isn't a zombie? How do they distinguish zombies from animals?

Frazz...you really should give Max Brook's a read my friend.

Basicly ( and this is Romero/Brooks type zombies) the dead can sense necrotic flesh ( either through smell or by some other means as of yet unknown) and will not attempt to consume it.
So, they won't attack each other, since they are already dead, nor will they eat the flesh of a body that has been dead for longer than 10-12 hours.

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lord commissar klimino wrote:

dajobe wrote:my dogs eat disgusting crap in my backyard all of the time...even though i think one of them is a little "different"

my dog has killed 2 rabbits.one was a pet. the 1st one was wild and he dropped it at my dads feet all proud like. lets hope zombies are slow like they should be.


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FITZZ wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

FITZZ wrote: According to the majority of the fiction the consumption of zombie flesh is leathal to most forms of life...
So any animal ( carrion) who eats zombie flesh would be dead in a matter of hours..
This condition is also used to explain a zombies longevity ...as most parasitic life forms ( who would under normal conditions reduce a corpse to bone in a matter of days/weeks) avoid consuming zombie flesh due to it's toxic nature.

i was thinking along those line.thanks. also it seems zombies would eat animals to.

Again, that depends on the fiction you read/watch...in some cases zombies will ignore any living thing that isn't human...in other films/books they will attack any living animal they can get hold of.
I lean towards the train of thought that zombies would attempt to consume any living flesh the come in contact with..but that the transferance of the virus only occurs in humans...for example, a dog that has been fed upon will simply die...whereas a human who has been fed upon would reanimate.

yea tbut that blows the whole zombie theory though, as the zombies would literally eat each other and boom! plague over.

...How so?...zombies would have no interest in eating each other as they are not " living flesh" but reanimated corpses.

And yet they are always seen tearing their victims apart? How do they know the manwich they are eating isn't a zombie? How do they distinguish zombies from animals?

Frazz...you really should give Max Brook's a read my friend.

Basicly ( and this is Romero/Brooks type zombies) the dead can sense necrotic flesh ( either through smell or by some other means as of yet unknown) and will not attempt to consume it.
So, they won't attack each other, since they are already dead, nor will they eat the flesh of a body that has been dead for longer than 10-12 hours.

i think its more of the smell. zombies can tell if your a zombie by if you smell like a rotting maggot sack or not. thats why in some versions humans can rub zombies guts on their clothing and not get attacked. ps if this works id so do it.

Rodney is like an eight inch tall nervous angel of death as far as snakes are concerned. That dog is a snake killing machine.

My Dachshund, Lilly, kills mice like it's no one's business. She's also been known to attack the UPS guy.

Y'know Frazz, that's another reason you should read World War Z, in the segments discussing the use of dogs against zombies...Weiner dogs figure highly as very useful.

I know what you mean frazzled, i dont know how, but my jack russel terrier has the WORST breath EVAR! i dont know how there is not some rotting carcass filled with essense of stink inside of her, because her breath is death. I imagine her breath is what all of hell smells like...

dajobe wrote:I know what you mean frazzled, i dont know how, but my jack russel terrier has the WORST breath EVAR! i dont know how there is not some rotting carcass filled with essense of stink inside of her, because her breath is death. I imagine her breath is what all of hell smells like...

another wiener I dogsit has breath that could knock an ox on its ass

CptJake wrote:By the way, since maggots eat the rotten meat, they may help mask the smell. There is even some use of maggots medically to eat away dead flesh around wounds to keep gangrene down.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/10/1024_031024_maggotmedicine.html

I believe somewhere ...buried in this thread, is the idea of using this sort of method to combat infection if needed.

its SUPER EFFECTIVE!!!

Crom wrote:

And yet they are always seen tearing their victims apart? How do they know the manwich they are eating isn't a zombie? How do they distinguish zombies from animals?

How often do you see animals eating decayed, rotten and diseased flesh in the wild?

Well, if you've evr played resident evil games, or have seen the second and third film, the birds who ate the flesh of the infected became infected themselves. That being said, they'd attack other animals, alongside animals like ants and flies, who also feed on carrion,which will in turn attack animals who would never themselves eat rotting tissue. So, in the end, animals might as well eat the rotting flesh, they'll all be infected anyway.

remilia_scarlet wrote:

Crom wrote:

And yet they are always seen tearing their victims apart? How do they know the manwich they are eating isn't a zombie? How do they distinguish zombies from animals?

How often do you see animals eating decayed, rotten and diseased flesh in the wild?

Well, if you've evr played resident evil games, or have seen the second and third film, the birds who ate the flesh of the infected became infected themselves. That being said, they'd attack other animals, alongside animals like ants and flies, who also feed on carrion,which will in turn attack animals who would never themselves eat rotting tissue. So, in the end, animals might as well eat the rotting flesh, they'll all be infected anyway.

....wait wouldnt we all become infected from ants?

dajobe wrote:its SUPER EFFECTIVE!!!

I'd imagine it would be.
Seems I recall recently seeing something on some medical program in which a homeless man came into the ER with his entire leg covered in maggots.
The ER Doctor, after the paitent had been showered, stated the maggots did more good than harm in that they had eaten away a lot of gangrenous flesh.

i was talking about the dog breath...but i have heard of maggots being used for medicinal purposes, as well as leeches and many other natural oddities!

dajobe wrote:i was talking about the dog breath...but i have heard of maggots being used for medicinal purposes, as well as leeches and many other natural oddities!

Ah, my mistake, thought you were commenting on the effectiveness of using maggots as treatment.


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Wardragoon wrote:

remilia_scarlet wrote:

Crom wrote:

And yet they are always seen tearing their victims apart? How do they know the manwich they are eating isn't a zombie? How do they distinguish zombies from animals?

How often do you see animals eating decayed, rotten and diseased flesh in the wild?

Well, if you've evr played resident evil games, or have seen the second and third film, the birds who ate the flesh of the infected became infected themselves. That being said, they'd attack other animals, alongside animals like ants and flies, who also feed on carrion,which will in turn attack animals who would never themselves eat rotting tissue. So, in the end, animals might as well eat the rotting flesh, they'll all be infected anyway.

....wait wouldnt we all become infected from ants?

Agian, concerning the transferance of the virus via animal/insect bite...it depends largely on the fiction.
As I said, in the majority of "zombie fiction" insects and animals avoid injesting zombie flesh/contact with zombie blood so the danger of infection through any means other than direct contact with a zombie ( or mishandling/misadventure involving a zombies "fluids") is minimal.
I suppose in fiction in which the virus is carried by animals the danger of infection drasticly rises.

I find rotting animals to smell worse then rotting people, and most dogs will eat dead crap.

I watched a dog step OUT of a horses chest cavity in Iraq, it was July and like 130F out, I damn near lost my lunch when we drove by that. Just imagine this bloated, decaying horse with it's legs sticking straight out, and as you drive by it this mutt steps out, all slicked down with gore, munching away happily with his tail wagging.

In my top 5 nastiest things ever seen. That smell still haunts me. Though I don't think we'll see maggots on Zombies, because maggots means things can survive eating them, and if that is the case they should decay pretty damn fast.

And, just to play Devils Advocate, what if their not Shamblers (Romero) but Ragers (28Days/Weeks).

Lately the zombie trend has been going away from magic/radiation/cosmic influence and into Bio Weapons and Chemical leaks. At first I sorta despised that part of the Genre, and refused to admit the Ragers from 28 Days were zombies, but I suppose I can work with it now, especially after playing so much L4D and L4D2....

Sckitzo wrote:I find rotting animals to smell worse then rotting people, and most dogs will eat dead crap.

I watched a dog step OUT of a horses chest cavity in Iraq, it was July and like 130F out, I damn near lost my lunch when we drove by that. Just imagine this bloated, decaying horse with it's legs sticking straight out, and as you drive by it this mutt steps out, all slicked down with gore, munching away happily with his tail wagging.

In my top 5 nastiest things ever seen. That smell still haunts me. Though I don't think we'll see maggots on Zombies, because maggots means things can survive eating them, and if that is the case they should decay pretty damn fast.

And, just to play Devils Advocate, what if their not Shamblers (Romero) but Ragers (28Days/Weeks).

Lately the zombie trend has been going away from magic/radiation/cosmic influence and into Bio Weapons and Chemical leaks. At first I sorta despised that part of the Genre, and refused to admit the Ragers from 28 Days were zombies, but I suppose I can work with it now, especially after playing so much L4D and L4D2....

i dont think zombies will mutate as in L4D. i think its gonna be a form of rabies.