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lord commissar klimino wrote:

coolyo294 wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

coolyo294 wrote:There's summer in Alaska? Then screw it, I'm going to Antarctica.

good luck freezing your *ss off

Dude, I live in Minnesota. I'm an expert at freezing my ass off.

yeah,but thats nothing compared to Antarctica. hope you like having your frozen penguin stew stolen by polar bears. err,wait,i might be getting the poles mixed up. still, have fun in the cold to cold.

I love the cold.

coolyo294 wrote:I love the cold.

im from texas,so i cant even comply with that statement.

while I was playing devil's advocate earlier about human nature, there are some basic points I would like to make about an apocalyptic even. In this case we need to assume that no place is going to be safe forever, and that no food source is going to be constant. Setting up a compound, farm, or whatever will draw attention and may not even be viable. Like if you are planning on living in a flood zone area, etc.

so the points:

-gun fire attracts zombies, stealth and avoidance is your best weapon
-stealth and avoidance is your best weapon against the living as well
-any government facility be it city hall, military base, schools, hospitals, etc are not going to be good safe houses
-Never let your guard down, even around those you believe you can trust this is the sad truth when it comes to survival in a post apocalypse world
-massing together is not really a good idea, the more people the larger the foot print, thus the more attraction you will gain
-technology that requires power is useless
-many common illnesses and injuries will equal death that normally would be easily treated


In the event of something so catastrophic as say an apocalypse scenario, the government will fall, once that is gone there is no longer a chain of command. The military will cease to exist, plus let's face it, the military will give up their duty and take care of their loved ones in that case. During such an event there are outside factors you should consider, is the zombie virus spreading to other animals, how does it affect the eco system? Everything is in tight balance and a drastic change to the ecosystem could produce all sorts of unwanted results.

So, you should probably plan for the absolute worst and hope for the best. If you aren't quite post apocalypse yet, you could probably get away with having your own compound or base of operations or what not, but come post apocalypse when all the damage is done that may not be there.

Crom wrote:so the points:

-gun fire attracts zombies, stealth and avoidance is your best weapon
-stealth and avoidance is your best weapon against the living as well
-any government facility be it city hall, military base, schools, hospitals, etc are not going to be good safe houses
-Never let your guard down, even around those you believe you can trust this is the sad truth when it comes to survival in a post apocalypse world
-massing together is not really a good idea, the more people the larger the foot print, thus the more attraction you will gain
-technology that requires power is useless
-many common illnesses and injuries will equal death that normally would be easily treated

erm,ive got to go...

So here's my points that I would miss/would bone me over
-Not many pretty ladies at
-New books(Seriously I would hate never knowing how jim butcher would end the dresden files)
-Lack of refrigeration and salinization plants(would make food storage a b***h
-My inability to repair anything(I am one of those guys who couldnt fix 2 cogs and a rod)
-On that note how many of you know how to reload ammo,not me(I dont mean reload a gun, I mean making bullets etc.)
-Lack of showering(I hate feeling dried sweat)
Things that I would love:
Lack of decency-I feel like going out in nothing but a kilt, oh well its not like anyones going to see me
The ability to garner power-I'm a leo
Ability to test myself in the wilds

I wonder what the military would do ? Line everyone up against a wall and shoot them or try to help out? I think World War z portrayed the military pretty well.

Finding gas for my post apoc badass truck would be kinda hard. I've got all the guns I need (I live in the south, though I am not a redneck. I happen to have a bumper sticker that says "Liberals With Guns!". ) Also I have a reloader for shotgun shells, but not bullets.

I know a lot of plants and a few mushrooms that are edible, so food would be difficult, but not impossible to come by.

The biggest thing I would have trouble with I think is what the world had come to. I think I wouldn't have that much trouble actually surviving, really. I'd look around for bits of tech and stuff and store it away for when humanity came back

lord commissar klimino wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:Waiting until people are weak then backstabbig them is pretty disgusting behavior to be honest.

You also seem to forget about the actual zomies... as soon as the military base is weak enough for you to somehow defeat them (how will you prevent yourself from becoming just as weak by the way? as they have many times more training, supplies and weapons than you it seems that it is unlikely they would give first...) the zombies will overrun the base and it will be useless to you.

1st. ill admit it is cowardly,but its nothing people today dont do, and its the Apocalypse,ill do anything to survive.

2nd. most bases have a ground gate and a big yard area. ill be up on a roof or something using ladders and the such so ill be able to keep a few more supplies and a home base. while bases also might have high areas to that ground area is were the zombies will come from anyways.

3rd.you got me there.but it wont be that useless. zombies can easily be drawn out. use a dog or loud noise at the gate to draw most of tem out,then swoop in and loot whats left,which most likely will be something.

4th. Punctuation is not your enemy. You two can be friends!

The whole getting eaten alive part kind of turns me off...

Frazzled wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:Waiting until people are weak then backstabbig them is pretty disgusting behavior to be honest.

You also seem to forget about the actual zomies... as soon as the military base is weak enough for you to somehow defeat them (how will you prevent yourself from becoming just as weak by the way? as they have many times more training, supplies and weapons than you it seems that it is unlikely they would give first...) the zombies will overrun the base and it will be useless to you.

1st. ill admit it is cowardly,but its nothing people today dont do, and its the Apocalypse,ill do anything to survive.

2nd. most bases have a ground gate and a big yard area. ill be up on a roof or something using ladders and the such so ill be able to keep a few more supplies and a home base. while bases also might have high areas to that ground area is were the zombies will come from anyways.

3rd.you got me there.but it wont be that useless. zombies can easily be drawn out. use a dog or loud noise at the gate to draw most of tem out,then swoop in and loot whats left,which most likely will be something.

4th. Punctuation is not your enemy. You two can be friends!

i have bad grammar and all that yes. im never going to. sorry.

corpsesarefun wrote:Corpseicles that freeze and then thaw to no ill effect... good luck for the summer mr coolyo, you will need it.

I know me some bears and wolves that are going to get damn fat from eating zombie burgers then.


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lord commissar klimino wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:Waiting until people are weak then backstabbig them is pretty disgusting behavior to be honest.

You also seem to forget about the actual zomies... as soon as the military base is weak enough for you to somehow defeat them (how will you prevent yourself from becoming just as weak by the way? as they have many times more training, supplies and weapons than you it seems that it is unlikely they would give first...) the zombies will overrun the base and it will be useless to you.

1st. ill admit it is cowardly,but its nothing people today dont do, and its the Apocalypse,ill do anything to survive.

2nd. most bases have a ground gate and a big yard area. ill be up on a roof or something using ladders and the such so ill be able to keep a few more supplies and a home base. while bases also might have high areas to that ground area is were the zombies will come from anyways.

3rd.you got me there.but it wont be that useless. zombies can easily be drawn out. use a dog or loud noise at the gate to draw most of tem out,then swoop in and loot whats left,which most likely will be something.

4th. Punctuation is not your enemy. You two can be friends!

i have bad grammar and all that yes. im never going to. sorry.

Where are you from Tex?

Frazzled wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:Corpseicles that freeze and then thaw to no ill effect... good luck for the summer mr coolyo, you will need it.

I know me some bears and wolves that are going to get damn fat from eating zombie burgers then.

would animals even eat zombies? if they dont turn into zombies,it seems like all the diesieses would kill them.

lord commissar klimino wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:Corpseicles that freeze and then thaw to no ill effect... good luck for the summer mr coolyo, you will need it.

I know me some bears and wolves that are going to get damn fat from eating zombie burgers then.

would animals even eat zombies? if they dont turn into zombies,it seems like all the diesieses would kill them.

Zombies are just people. People without access to rocket propelled chainsaws are just really really really slow pigs.

Frazzled wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:Corpseicles that freeze and then thaw to no ill effect... good luck for the summer mr coolyo, you will need it.

I know me some bears and wolves that are going to get damn fat from eating zombie burgers then.

would animals even eat zombies? if they dont turn into zombies,it seems like all the diesieses would kill them.

Zombies are just people. People without access to rocket propelled chainsaws are just really really really slow pigs.

so that makes it seem like animals might help keep the zombies numbers down,if only a little.

According to the majority of the fiction the consumption of zombie flesh is leathal to most forms of life...
So any animal ( carrion) who eats zombie flesh would be dead in a matter of hours..
This condition is also used to explain a zombies longevity ...as most parasitic life forms ( who would under normal conditions reduce a corpse to bone in a matter of days/weeks) avoid consuming zombie flesh due to it's toxic nature.

FITZZ wrote: According to the majority of the fiction the consumption of zombie flesh is leathal to most forms of life...
So any animal ( carrion) who eats zombie flesh would be dead in a matter of hours..
This condition is also used to explain a zombies longevity ...as most parasitic life forms ( who would under normal conditions reduce a corpse to bone in a matter of days/weeks) avoid consuming zombie flesh due to it's toxic nature.

i was thinking along those line.thanks. also it seems zombies would eat animals to.

ZOMBIE RABBITS!

lord commissar klimino wrote:

FITZZ wrote: According to the majority of the fiction the consumption of zombie flesh is leathal to most forms of life...
So any animal ( carrion) who eats zombie flesh would be dead in a matter of hours..
This condition is also used to explain a zombies longevity ...as most parasitic life forms ( who would under normal conditions reduce a corpse to bone in a matter of days/weeks) avoid consuming zombie flesh due to it's toxic nature.

i was thinking along those line.thanks. also it seems zombies would eat animals to.

Meh I don't recognize zombie "literature." If it didn't star Ving Rhames, begin with "they're coming to get you Barbara," or involve the efficacious use of a kricket bat it aint .

Besides with the new virus zombies they are just people and therefor more for the eating!

Zombies and tyranids have alot in common...NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM!

lord commissar klimino wrote:

FITZZ wrote: According to the majority of the fiction the consumption of zombie flesh is leathal to most forms of life...
So any animal ( carrion) who eats zombie flesh would be dead in a matter of hours..
This condition is also used to explain a zombies longevity ...as most parasitic life forms ( who would under normal conditions reduce a corpse to bone in a matter of days/weeks) avoid consuming zombie flesh due to it's toxic nature.

i was thinking along those line.thanks. also it seems zombies would eat animals to.

Again, that depends on the fiction you read/watch...in some cases zombies will ignore any living thing that isn't human...in other films/books they will attack any living animal they can get hold of.
I lean towards the train of thought that zombies would attempt to consume any living flesh the come in contact with..but that the transferance of the virus only occurs in humans...for example, a dog that has been fed upon will simply die...whereas a human who has been fed upon would reanimate.

FITZZ wrote:Again, that depends on the fiction you read/watch...in some cases zombies will ignore any living thing that isn't human...in other films/books they will attack any living animal they can get hold of.
I lean towards the train of thought that zombies would attempt to consume any living flesh the come in contact with..but that the transferance of the virus only occurs in humans...for example, a dog that has been fed upon will simply die...whereas a human who has been fed upon would reanimate.

I would tend towards this version as well.

SilverMK2 wrote:

FITZZ wrote:Again, that depends on the fiction you read/watch...in some cases zombies will ignore any living thing that isn't human...in other films/books they will attack any living animal they can get hold of.
I lean towards the train of thought that zombies would attempt to consume any living flesh the come in contact with..but that the transferance of the virus only occurs in humans...for example, a dog that has been fed upon will simply die...whereas a human who has been fed upon would reanimate.

I would tend towards this version as well.

it does seem the most likely.

Frazzled wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

FITZZ wrote: According to the majority of the fiction the consumption of zombie flesh is leathal to most forms of life...
So any animal ( carrion) who eats zombie flesh would be dead in a matter of hours..
This condition is also used to explain a zombies longevity ...as most parasitic life forms ( who would under normal conditions reduce a corpse to bone in a matter of days/weeks) avoid consuming zombie flesh due to it's toxic nature.

i was thinking along those line.thanks. also it seems zombies would eat animals to.

Meh I don't recognize zombie "literature." If it didn't star Ving Rhames, begin with "they're coming to get you Barbara," or involve the efficacious use of a kricket bat it aint .

Besides with the new virus zombies they are just people and therefor more for the eating!

The flesh of the "new infected/not zombies but plague people" would still probably be toxic...look how fast the "Rage Virus" in 28 Days/Weeks later spread..it would stand to reason that " infected Humans" ( from that genre) would be unsafe for consumption.

Ving Rhames...?...C'mon...the man was in two zombie films, the fairly decent remake of Dawn of the Dead, and the Someone should be shot for making this remake of Day of the Dead...though I will agree with most " there coming to get you Barbara" referances...as well as the fantastic use of cricket bats..

Everyone is in agreement, so next year on Dec 21, 2012, a zombie apocalypse will occur and the zombies will be able to infect humans, and will just eat animals!!!

i need to start preparing...

FITZZ wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

FITZZ wrote: According to the majority of the fiction the consumption of zombie flesh is leathal to most forms of life...
So any animal ( carrion) who eats zombie flesh would be dead in a matter of hours..
This condition is also used to explain a zombies longevity ...as most parasitic life forms ( who would under normal conditions reduce a corpse to bone in a matter of days/weeks) avoid consuming zombie flesh due to it's toxic nature.

i was thinking along those line.thanks. also it seems zombies would eat animals to.

Again, that depends on the fiction you read/watch...in some cases zombies will ignore any living thing that isn't human...in other films/books they will attack any living animal they can get hold of.
I lean towards the train of thought that zombies would attempt to consume any living flesh the come in contact with..but that the transferance of the virus only occurs in humans...for example, a dog that has been fed upon will simply die...whereas a human who has been fed upon would reanimate.

Some even turn animals into the zombie versions of themselves. I guess it depends on what is causing the zombie outbreak. Virus? Alien bacteria? Tiny nano machines (technology), or perhaps some sentient being that uses our bodies as a shell for it's existence.

Then what happens if you have a robot uprising along side a zombie uprising?

Crom wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

FITZZ wrote: According to the majority of the fiction the consumption of zombie flesh is leathal to most forms of life...
So any animal ( carrion) who eats zombie flesh would be dead in a matter of hours..
This condition is also used to explain a zombies longevity ...as most parasitic life forms ( who would under normal conditions reduce a corpse to bone in a matter of days/weeks) avoid consuming zombie flesh due to it's toxic nature.

i was thinking along those line.thanks. also it seems zombies would eat animals to.

Again, that depends on the fiction you read/watch...in some cases zombies will ignore any living thing that isn't human...in other films/books they will attack any living animal they can get hold of.
I lean towards the train of thought that zombies would attempt to consume any living flesh the come in contact with..but that the transferance of the virus only occurs in humans...for example, a dog that has been fed upon will simply die...whereas a human who has been fed upon would reanimate.

Some even turn animals into the zombie versions of themselves. I guess it depends on what is causing the zombie outbreak. Virus? Alien bacteria? Tiny nano machines (technology), or perhaps some sentient being that uses our bodies as a shell for it's existence.

Then what happens if you have a robot uprising along side a zombie uprising?

Yeah...when we start to delve into the "Resident Evil" genre..your facing zombie dogs, infected birds...all sorts of ...critters.
..And I would guess a zombie/robot apocalypse would be pretty much "Game Over"....I'd still try to fight...but hell...even I know my limits.

FITZZ wrote:

Crom wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

FITZZ wrote: According to the majority of the fiction the consumption of zombie flesh is leathal to most forms of life...
So any animal ( carrion) who eats zombie flesh would be dead in a matter of hours..
This condition is also used to explain a zombies longevity ...as most parasitic life forms ( who would under normal conditions reduce a corpse to bone in a matter of days/weeks) avoid consuming zombie flesh due to it's toxic nature.

i was thinking along those line.thanks. also it seems zombies would eat animals to.

Again, that depends on the fiction you read/watch...in some cases zombies will ignore any living thing that isn't human...in other films/books they will attack any living animal they can get hold of.
I lean towards the train of thought that zombies would attempt to consume any living flesh the come in contact with..but that the transferance of the virus only occurs in humans...for example, a dog that has been fed upon will simply die...whereas a human who has been fed upon would reanimate.

Some even turn animals into the zombie versions of themselves. I guess it depends on what is causing the zombie outbreak. Virus? Alien bacteria? Tiny nano machines (technology), or perhaps some sentient being that uses our bodies as a shell for it's existence.

Then what happens if you have a robot uprising along side a zombie uprising?

Yeah...when we start to delve into the "Resident Evil" genre..your facing zombie dogs, infected birds...all sorts of ...critters.
..And I would guess a zombie/robot apocalypse would be pretty much "Game Over"....I'd still try to fight...but hell...even I know my limits.

Yeah in Resident Evil the T-Virus affects all living things, even plants. However, it was designed as a bio weapon, so that is probably different when comparing the rest of the zombie outbreaks which simply seem to mutate the human body to resist decay and preserve muscle-skeletal structure and activate very basic instincts from the brain. Then again in some zombie flicks some zombies show higher functions (Romero zombies) and they show that they can also retain memories of what they once were. In that regard you could argue zombies could be domesticated....perhaps


As for giant robots, at least I got computer skills and maybe could hack some and make my own robot army....well if they run off Windows based Operating Systems it will be easy to hack them!

FITZZ wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

FITZZ wrote: According to the majority of the fiction the consumption of zombie flesh is leathal to most forms of life...
So any animal ( carrion) who eats zombie flesh would be dead in a matter of hours..
This condition is also used to explain a zombies longevity ...as most parasitic life forms ( who would under normal conditions reduce a corpse to bone in a matter of days/weeks) avoid consuming zombie flesh due to it's toxic nature.

i was thinking along those line.thanks. also it seems zombies would eat animals to.

Again, that depends on the fiction you read/watch...in some cases zombies will ignore any living thing that isn't human...in other films/books they will attack any living animal they can get hold of.
I lean towards the train of thought that zombies would attempt to consume any living flesh the come in contact with..but that the transferance of the virus only occurs in humans...for example, a dog that has been fed upon will simply die...whereas a human who has been fed upon would reanimate.

yea tbut that blows the whole zombie theory though, as the zombies would literally eat each other and boom! plague over.

Frazzled wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

FITZZ wrote: According to the majority of the fiction the consumption of zombie flesh is leathal to most forms of life...
So any animal ( carrion) who eats zombie flesh would be dead in a matter of hours..
This condition is also used to explain a zombies longevity ...as most parasitic life forms ( who would under normal conditions reduce a corpse to bone in a matter of days/weeks) avoid consuming zombie flesh due to it's toxic nature.

i was thinking along those line.thanks. also it seems zombies would eat animals to.

Again, that depends on the fiction you read/watch...in some cases zombies will ignore any living thing that isn't human...in other films/books they will attack any living animal they can get hold of.
I lean towards the train of thought that zombies would attempt to consume any living flesh the come in contact with..but that the transferance of the virus only occurs in humans...for example, a dog that has been fed upon will simply die...whereas a human who has been fed upon would reanimate.

yea tbut that blows the whole zombie theory though, as the zombies would literally eat each other and boom! plague over.

...How so?...zombies would have no interest in eating each other as they are not " living flesh" but reanimated corpses.

FITZZ wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

FITZZ wrote: According to the majority of the fiction the consumption of zombie flesh is leathal to most forms of life...
So any animal ( carrion) who eats zombie flesh would be dead in a matter of hours..
This condition is also used to explain a zombies longevity ...as most parasitic life forms ( who would under normal conditions reduce a corpse to bone in a matter of days/weeks) avoid consuming zombie flesh due to it's toxic nature.

i was thinking along those line.thanks. also it seems zombies would eat animals to.

Again, that depends on the fiction you read/watch...in some cases zombies will ignore any living thing that isn't human...in other films/books they will attack any living animal they can get hold of.
I lean towards the train of thought that zombies would attempt to consume any living flesh the come in contact with..but that the transferance of the virus only occurs in humans...for example, a dog that has been fed upon will simply die...whereas a human who has been fed upon would reanimate.

yea tbut that blows the whole zombie theory though, as the zombies would literally eat each other and boom! plague over.

...How so?...zombies would have no interest in eating each other as they are not " living flesh" but reanimated corpses.

And yet they are always seen tearing their victims apart? How do they know the manwich they are eating isn't a zombie? How do they distinguish zombies from animals?

Frazzled wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

FITZZ wrote: According to the majority of the fiction the consumption of zombie flesh is leathal to most forms of life...
So any animal ( carrion) who eats zombie flesh would be dead in a matter of hours..
This condition is also used to explain a zombies longevity ...as most parasitic life forms ( who would under normal conditions reduce a corpse to bone in a matter of days/weeks) avoid consuming zombie flesh due to it's toxic nature.

i was thinking along those line.thanks. also it seems zombies would eat animals to.

Again, that depends on the fiction you read/watch...in some cases zombies will ignore any living thing that isn't human...in other films/books they will attack any living animal they can get hold of.
I lean towards the train of thought that zombies would attempt to consume any living flesh the come in contact with..but that the transferance of the virus only occurs in humans...for example, a dog that has been fed upon will simply die...whereas a human who has been fed upon would reanimate.

yea tbut that blows the whole zombie theory though, as the zombies would literally eat each other and boom! plague over.

...How so?...zombies would have no interest in eating each other as they are not " living flesh" but reanimated corpses.

And yet they are always seen tearing their victims apart? How do they know the manwich they are eating isn't a zombie? How do they distinguish zombies from animals?

smell.zombies smell bad.