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my zombie/mad max/who knows whats out to get us plan

get some friends together and conquer a super-walmart
we'd have the supplies to last a long time behind our shopping cart and pos cars barriers

greenskin lynn wrote:my zombie/mad max/who knows whats out to get us plan

get some friends together and conquer a super-walmart
we'd have the supplies to last a long time behind our shopping cart and pos cars barriers

Thats alot of doors/windows to cover, though.

Not saying you wouldn't have enough supplies to board them up, but would you have the time to?

And I've decided, I'm just going to shoot things come the Zombie Apocolypse, none of this holding out crap. Too many spoiled rotten bitches around here.

greenskin lynn wrote:my zombie/mad max/who knows whats out to get us plan

get some friends together and conquer a super-walmart
we'd have the supplies to last a long time behind our shopping cart and pos cars barriers

The biggest drawback to your plan is that in all probability a great many others will have the same idea,so in a worst case scenario you and your friends are now caught in the middle of a panicked mob with the high potential for becoming extreamly dangerous ,so you and your friends would have to "conquer" a large group of people who would quite likely be on the verge of rioting.
Even if you somehow did get everyone to cooperate and barricade the store,you have to consider that a large group of people will rapidly deplete your resources,but even more concerning,your most likely going to have a lot of "dead weight",people who will for all intents and purposes be completely useless for anything other than perhaps being eventually eaten and allowing you a chance to escape,not to mention in such a large group your going to have to be extreamly watch full for problematic people,crazies,mutineers and the possibly infected...

Basicly,at least during the initial outbreak,anyplace with lots of people is the last place anyone should be.

I think it would be a good place to hide BUT, hold out in your house until it dies down and then go.

Slarg232 wrote:
And I've decided, I'm just going to shoot things come the Zombie Apocolypse, none of this holding out crap. Too many spoiled rotten bitches around here.

There you go. Come Zombie Games time, give us a week or two to clear 'em out, and then the radio will start broadcasting the awesomeness of the New Republic of Texas*

*Then of course a hurricane will come along and kill us all.

I really love how people talk about all the guns they are going to take. I own 4 guns. 2 rifles 2 hand guns and will probably buy a few more down the road but never see myself owning more than say 8 or 9. Even so, if I had 9, I would only take probably one or two guns with me max. Guns are heavy, ammo is heavy, and I am not going to haul around a little red rider wagon to carry all my ammo in. Vehicles powered by petroleum are worthless in an all out infrastructure failure. Your resources are limited and probably gone by the time it hits.

Spend too much time gather people, supplies, and things like trucks, buses, and so forth you are going to get stuck or you are going to die. If not by the undead, by the living. You try stealing a giant truck and there are 50 other people who have the same idea and they all have guns, I bet it won't end well for everyone involved.

My plan is to get out as soon as possible and once things die down maybe go look for survivors, but that could take months or years. The living that also survive are way more dangerous. You going to set up patrols to keep your truck loads of supplies safe? What about people ambushing you and killing you a night and taking your goods. You aren't really being discrete when you have a caravan of people and vehicles going down roads.

My plan is grab a weapon, some ammo, some basic supplies and all the water I can carry and then hop on my bicycle and follow the train tracks south. Warmer climate, train tracks usually don't hit central hubs in town (some exceptions) and they are usually off near the outskirts you can avoid major traffic and avoid being noticed.

You will have to part with your dozens of guns, your favorite material possessions, and only really keep the essentials. Unless you live in a fortified compound and can just hold up. Then again, you still have other humans who are very desperate lurking around as well.

Crom wrote:I really love how people talk about all the guns they are going to take. I own 4 guns. 2 rifles 2 hand guns and will probably buy a few more down the road but never see myself owning more than say 8 or 9. Even so, if I had 9, I would only take probably one or two guns with me max. Guns are heavy, ammo is heavy, and I am not going to haul around a little red rider wagon to carry all my ammo in. Vehicles powered by petroleum are worthless in an all out infrastructure failure. Your resources are limited and probably gone by the time it hits.

Spend too much time gather people, supplies, and things like trucks, buses, and so forth you are going to get stuck or you are going to die. If not by the undead, by the living. You try stealing a giant truck and there are 50 other people who have the same idea and they all have guns, I bet it won't end well for everyone involved.

My plan is to get out as soon as possible and once things die down maybe go look for survivors, but that could take months or years. The living that also survive are way more dangerous. You going to set up patrols to keep your truck loads of supplies safe? What about people ambushing you and killing you a night and taking your goods. You aren't really being discrete when you have a caravan of people and vehicles going down roads.

My plan is grab a weapon, some ammo, some basic supplies and all the water I can carry and then hop on my bicycle and follow the train tracks south. Warmer climate, train tracks usually don't hit central hubs in town (some exceptions) and they are usually off near the outskirts you can avoid major traffic and avoid being noticed.

You will have to part with your dozens of guns, your favorite material possessions, and only really keep the essentials. Unless you live in a fortified compound and can just hold up. Then again, you still have other humans who are very desperate lurking around as well.

My axe needs no ammo

Your axe HA!

Sure youll down 1 or 3, but uh....what about the 20 or 30 that are closing in on you? Wait didnt we go over the reason why the axe is a bad idea like 4 pages ago

Crom wrote:
You will have to part with your dozens of guns, your favorite material possessions, and only really keep the essentials. Unless you live in a fortified compound and can just hold up. Then again, you still have other humans who are very desperate lurking around as well.

I will not have to part with my small arsenal of shooty goodness, for they are my favorite material possessions, and I plan to keep them for they are essential to my survival.

I also hate to use the word compound, cause it makes people think of backwater nut jobs waiting to over throw the gubberment... but one can compare the place where me and my friends plan to bug out to one.

As for other people, I won't worry about them in the least. Cause ill be the guy sitting on the roof across from wall mart with a Rem 700 waiting for you to finish loading that uhaul full of supplies for me before I take it from you.

KingCracker wrote:Your axe HA!

Sure youll down 1 or 3, but uh....what about the 20 or 30 that are closing in on you? Wait didnt we go over the reason why the axe is a bad idea like 4 pages ago

I don't care goddamn it

Dying fighting is better than being a pansy and picking the blighters off from shelter.

Nope. Id much rather survive and enjoy killing without having to go to prison. Will it be as easy a life as it is now? Of course not. But itll be a damn sight better in many other ways

KingCracker wrote:Nope. Id much rather survive and enjoy killing without having to go to prison. Will it be as easy a life as it is now? Of course not. But itll be a damn sight better in many other ways

No Sarah Palin!

KingCracker wrote:Nope. Id much rather survive and enjoy killing without having to go to prison. Will it be as easy a life as it is now? Of course not. But itll be a damn sight better in many other ways

I can't hit a target at 30 foot anyway close combat and explosives are my only options

corpsesarefun wrote:

KingCracker wrote:Nope. Id much rather survive and enjoy killing without having to go to prison. Will it be as easy a life as it is now? Of course not. But itll be a damn sight better in many other ways

I can't hit a target at 30 foot anyway close combat and explosives are my only options

Are you using a gun with to much recoil?

Chowderhead wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

KingCracker wrote:Nope. Id much rather survive and enjoy killing without having to go to prison. Will it be as easy a life as it is now? Of course not. But itll be a damn sight better in many other ways

I can't hit a target at 30 foot anyway close combat and explosives are my only options

Are you using a gun with to much recoil?

Nah I just can't shoot for gak.

Used Rifles, hunting shotguns, hunting crossbow, air rifles and air pistols - Can't hit anything with any of them

Good god man! Close combat and explosives is your only defense? So your gunna chop, until they over whelm you, then blow up a gak load of zombies, only to have every flesh eater from miles away come to you. Id die in a flurry of chops too


Chowder - maybe hes blind?


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Ahh cant shoot, yea that hurts people too

KingCracker wrote:Good god man! Close combat and explosives is your only defense? So your gunna chop, until they over whelm you, then blow up a gak load of zombies, only to have every flesh eater from miles away come to you. Id die in a flurry of chops too


Chowder - maybe hes blind?


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Ahh cant shoot, yea that hurts people too

Hooray dyspraxia

Ah well, I can make a mean improvised explosive.

corpsesarefun wrote:

KingCracker wrote:Good god man! Close combat and explosives is your only defense? So your gunna chop, until they over whelm you, then blow up a gak load of zombies, only to have every flesh eater from miles away come to you. Id die in a flurry of chops too


Chowder - maybe hes blind?


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Ahh cant shoot, yea that hurts people too

Hooray dyspraxia

Ah well, I can make a mean improvised explosive.

I really need to start reading the cookbook more often.

Do you have it, corpses? Or is it banned in Britian?

I definitely agree with Crom concerning Firearms and travel,trying to lug a dozen guns + ammo along with food/water + other supplies while on the road will be a really bad idea.
1 or 2 pistols + a riffle and assorted ammo/magazines per person on the road is all you should carry,along with a good machete.
Now...if your holding up in a fortified compound..go nuts with guns/ammo....see ya there Jp.

FITZZ wrote: I definitely agree with Crom concerning Firearms and travel,trying to lug a dozen guns + ammo along with food/water + other supplies while on the road will be a really bad idea.
1 or 2 pistols + a riffle and assorted ammo/magazines per person on the road is all you should carry,along with a good machete.
Now...if your holding up in a fortified compound..go nuts with guns/ammo....see ya there Jp.

Indeed. Just found another long term shelf stable food source that comes in a variety of flavors. (25+ Year shelf life in controlled storage)

Also a quick update to all who follow my shooting antics:



Just properly zeroed this bad boy (.223) yesterday and was able to shoot a dime at 100Yrds using this ammo:



Can't wait to run it through its paces on the up to 1000yrd range and see what it really can do.

I've noticed no one has really discussed body armor. Interesting.

Perhaps I won't have to stock up on as many steel core rounds now.

If the entire plan get totally destroyed im just going to walk into the middle of town with c4 strapped to my chest and see how long i can hold out until its time to go out with a BANG!

jp400 wrote:

FITZZ wrote: I definitely agree with Crom concerning Firearms and travel,trying to lug a dozen guns + ammo along with food/water + other supplies while on the road will be a really bad idea.
1 or 2 pistols + a riffle and assorted ammo/magazines per person on the road is all you should carry,along with a good machete.
Now...if your holding up in a fortified compound..go nuts with guns/ammo....see ya there Jp.

Indeed. Just found another long term shelf stable food source that comes in a variety of flavors. (25+ Year shelf life in controlled storage)

variety of flavours, pah, tactical bacon is where it's at

(it's real)

FM Ninja 048 wrote:

jp400 wrote:

FITZZ wrote: I definitely agree with Chrome concerning Firearms and travel,trying to lug a dozen guns + ammo along with food/water + other supplies while on the road will be a really bad idea.
1 or 2 pistols + a riffle and assorted ammo/magazines per person on the road is all you should carry,along with a good machete.
Now...if your holding up in a fortified compound..go nuts with guns/ammo....see ya there Jp.

Indeed. Just found another long term shelf stable food source that comes in a variety of flavors. (25+ Year shelf life in controlled storage)

variety of flavours, pah, tactical bacon is where it's at

(it's real)

One of my favorites...also available in Beef and Chicken.



..And if you want real variety..



...Seriously..they are damn tasty.

jp400 wrote:

Crom wrote:
You will have to part with your dozens of guns, your favorite material possessions, and only really keep the essentials. Unless you live in a fortified compound and can just hold up. Then again, you still have other humans who are very desperate lurking around as well.

I will not have to part with my small arsenal of shooty goodness, for they are my favorite material possessions, and I plan to keep them for they are essential to my survival.

I also hate to use the word compound, cause it makes people think of backwater nut jobs waiting to over throw the gubberment... but one can compare the place where me and my friends plan to bug out to one.

As for other people, I won't worry about them in the least. Cause ill be the guy sitting on the roof across from wall mart with a Rem 700 waiting for you to finish loading that uhaul full of supplies for me before I take it from you.

Now thats executive planning.

Here's a few "travel kit" essentials..













...I think that covers the essentials.

I have plenty of guns and ammo, I'll be okay.

FITZZ wrote: Here's a few "travel kit" essentials..













...I think that covers the essentials.

The only thing Id change in that list, is I prefer the umph of a shotgun to the rifle. Not to mention if you get the typical "OH gak A ZOMBIE FROM NO WHERE" you can panic and still drop/headshot it easy enough. shotguns are forgivable. But thats a preference thing. I laughed at the hotbody girl on her knees. That just seems a bit weird, not to mention hotbody girls boobs are crazy huge. Those might be a distraction

CrashUSAR wrote:I've noticed no one has really discussed body armor. Interesting.

Perhaps I won't have to stock up on as many steel core rounds now.

Body armor is heavy and cumbersome and most brass/lead rounds go right through it anyway. Steel ammo is also more subjective to corrosion and is harder on your barrel. I bought 1,000 steel core mil surp rounds for my Mosin in 7.62x54R. I don't think any body armor would hold a stick to such a round. I also don't think most body armors can stand up against a 7.62x39 or even a 5.56 lead round and body armor doesn't cover all parts of your body either. Getting shot anywhere in post apocalypse means you will most likely die from infection or bleeding out. If any major artery is touched, then you are doomed. It is not like medical treatment will be up and running, and unless your with someone who can perform surgery you are done for.

Now, body armor versus the zombies, that may actually have a benefit if you have to melee your way through the hordes. Though hand to hand should always be a last ditch effort.

haloreach4ever wrote:If the entire plan get totally destroyed im just going to walk into the middle of town with c4 strapped to my chest and see how long i can hold out until its time to go out with a BANG!

Where are you going to get the C4 from? I'm a breach man in the army and I have a hard time getting my hands on the stuff.

FM Ninja 048 wrote:

jp400 wrote:

FITZZ wrote: I definitely agree with Crom concerning Firearms and travel,trying to lug a dozen guns + ammo along with food/water + other supplies while on the road will be a really bad idea.
1 or 2 pistols + a riffle and assorted ammo/magazines per person on the road is all you should carry,along with a good machete.
Now...if your holding up in a fortified compound..go nuts with guns/ammo....see ya there Jp.

Indeed. Just found another long term shelf stable food source that comes in a variety of flavors. (25+ Year shelf life in controlled storage)

variety of flavours, pah, tactical bacon is where it's at

(it's real)

Yup. Actually got a can given to me for Christmas last year as a gag gift. Joke was on them cause I fried it up and ate it that morning. Doesn't taste half bad, but I have had better.

FITZZ wrote:

FM Ninja 048 wrote:

jp400 wrote:

FITZZ wrote: I definitely agree with Chrome concerning Firearms and travel,trying to lug a dozen guns + ammo along with food/water + other supplies while on the road will be a really bad idea.
1 or 2 pistols + a riffle and assorted ammo/magazines per person on the road is all you should carry,along with a good machete.
Now...if your holding up in a fortified compound..go nuts with guns/ammo....see ya there Jp.

Indeed. Just found another long term shelf stable food source that comes in a variety of flavors. (25+ Year shelf life in controlled storage)

variety of flavours, pah, tactical bacon is where it's at

(it's real)

One of my favorites...also available in Beef and Chicken.



..And if you want real variety..



...Seriously..they are damn tasty.

...... maybe it's just me, and the fact that I have had to choke down thousands of Meals Rejected by starving Ethiopians, but I would much rather eat almost anything else to them. Still though, I have several cases in my man cave.

Frazzled wrote:

jp400 wrote:

Crom wrote:
You will have to part with your dozens of guns, your favorite material possessions, and only really keep the essentials. Unless you live in a fortified compound and can just hold up. Then again, you still have other humans who are very desperate lurking around as well.

I will not have to part with my small arsenal of shooty goodness, for they are my favorite material possessions, and I plan to keep them for they are essential to my survival.

I also hate to use the word compound, cause it makes people think of backwater nut jobs waiting to over throw the gubberment... but one can compare the place where me and my friends plan to bug out to one.

As for other people, I won't worry about them in the least. Cause ill be the guy sitting on the roof across from wall mart with a Rem 700 waiting for you to finish loading that uhaul full of supplies for me before I take it from you.

Now thats executive planning.

Indeed it is.

kharn-the-betrayer wrote:I have plenty of guns and ammo, I'll be okay.

Yup. Who needs other little things like food, water, shelter, a plan ect ect.

Crom wrote:

CrashUSAR wrote:I've noticed no one has really discussed body armor. Interesting.

Perhaps I won't have to stock up on as many steel core rounds now.

Body armor is heavy and cumbersome and most brass/lead rounds go right through it anyway. Steel ammo is also more subjective to corrosion and is harder on your barrel. I bought 1,000 steel core mil surp rounds for my Mosin in 7.62x54R. I don't think any body armor would hold a stick to such a round. I also don't think most body armors can stand up against a 7.62x39 or even a 5.56 lead round and body armor doesn't cover all parts of your body either. Getting shot anywhere in post apocalypse means you will most likely die from infection or bleeding out. If any major artery is touched, then you are doomed. It is not like medical treatment will be up and running, and unless your with someone who can perform surgery you are done for.

Now, body armor versus the zombies, that may actually have a benefit if you have to melee your way through the hordes. Though hand to hand should always be a last ditch effort.

You really, REALLY need to read up on the different class's of protection available right now. Flex vests without sapi protection are light weight, easy to use, low profile, and offer ok protection against pistol threats. They are what most Patrol officers wear while on duty.

They won't stop a rifle round though or certain pistol calibers in +P.

Rifle Ballistic Plates (LvL3-4) will most certainly stop 5.56 and 7.62x39. Esapi will stop AP versions of those rounds, while lvl 4 can stop 30-06AP multiple hits at point blank range.

Also, they don't make bullets out of brass. Most common are a lead core with a copper jacket over it. While your "AP" rounds tend to be a core of steel with a copper jacket over it.

Also, body armor will cover as much of your body as you are willing/able to lug around.







Myself, I wear a Multi hit, stand alone, LvL 4 10x12 front/back + 2 side plates, a neck/throat protection, ACH with an aftermarket ballistic face shield (rated frag/9mm), and a femoral artery protector.

When on turret duty and I know I won't be running around, I also wear deltoid protection, and aftermarket ballistic arm protection(Frag/9mm) to help protect my more exposed upper body.