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I would find some sort of explosive, if i had to i would just strap several fire lighters and some beer to my chest. If it can make a bang then it will do.
OK well I stand corrected then. I was under the impression body armor did not really stop high powered rifle rounds. Does the US military finally issue out full body armor to soldiers? I remember reading back while ago troops were buying their own body armor?
Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of the Eldar!
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
I would think a combination of leather gear (Jacket/pants/boots designed for riding) along with some form of tactical body armour would be the best combination.
Providing a degree of anti-bite/anti-bullet protection,but still allowing the wearer the ability to move quickly if need be.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
Crom wrote:OK well I stand corrected then. I was under the impression body armor did not really stop high powered rifle rounds. Does the US military finally issue out full body armor to soldiers? I remember reading back while ago troops were buying their own body armor?
Uncle Sam has ALWAYS issued full body armor to us grunts. The reason why troops were buying their own was two fold.
A: Some plates were found to be manufactured wrong and thus useless (They were recalled, including the plates I wore for 12 months in Iraq on my 1st tour) soldiers lost faith in their gear and bought their own.
B: There is always something better out there on the market. In the case above that you were reading, people were buying dragon skin and voiding their SGLI ($400,000) for using non issue equipment and peoples next of kin were pretty Po'd over not getting payouts. Thus to save the headache DOD banned the use of all non issue vests.
The Point Blank Interceptor vest is what I have used (in the army) since 2002.
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FITZZ wrote: I would think a combination of leather gear (Jacket/pants/boots designed for riding) along with some form of tactical body armour would be the best combination.
Providing a degree of anti-bite/anti-bullet protection,but still allowing the wearer the ability to move quickly if need be.
Light riot/extraction gear would be the best. Everything is made to be bite/stab proof. Though offers NO ballistic protection.
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haloreach4ever wrote:I would find some sort of explosive, if i had to i would just strap several fire lighters and some beer to my chest. If it can make a bang then it will do.
Enjoy your 3rd degree burns as the undead eat you alive.
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Hmm..could the Light riot/extraction gear be combined with Body armour that would offer ballistic protection yet not hinder mobility to the point of making it a drawback?
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
haloreach4ever wrote:I would find some sort of explosive, if i had to i would just strap several fire lighters and some beer to my chest. If it can make a bang then it will do.
jp400 wrote:I don't see why not. I don't think it is standard, but could be added by hand through slight modification by the user.
That would be the idea...something to provide protection from bites/ballistics...but having the wearer reasonably unhindered when it comes to movement...perfect zombie apocalypse ensemble...
The exact sort of gear I'd be looking for to stop both the biting zombies and those pesky scavengers trying to steal the delicious (and IMO they are indeed delicious) MREs.
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corpsesarefun wrote:
haloreach4ever wrote:I would find some sort of explosive, if i had to i would just strap several fire lighters and some beer to my chest. If it can make a bang then it will do.
This would do absolutely feth all.
I don't know...it would be pretty entertaining to watch.
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I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
I'll take a Shark Suit. It's chainmail that can withstand repeated bites from a Great White.
The best in Zombie Protection!
Unfortunately chainmail tears with relative ease, you need to watch more zombie films and see how people die
Trying tearing some. I'll go with chowderhead, if its good enough to stop Biffy the wonder fish, its good enough for zombies. We forget zombies are just the average run of the mill human with a rather nasty eating disorder. No big thing.
remember its not the zombies you really have to worry about. Its the CTNFs* which will be a real problem.
*Carniverous Texans Named Frazzled.
Meat. Its whats for breakfast.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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I'll take a Shark Suit. It's chainmail that can withstand repeated bites from a Great White.
The best in Zombie Protection!
Unfortunately chainmail tears with relative ease, you need to watch more zombie films and see how people die
Trying tearing some. I'll go with chowderhead, if its good enough to stop Biffy the wonder fish, its good enough for zombies. We forget zombies are just the average run of the mill human with a rather nasty eating disorder. No big thing.
remember its not the zombies you really have to worry about. Its the CTNFs* which will be a real problem.
*Carniverous Texans Named Frazzled.
Meat. Its whats for breakfast.
The problem with chainmail is the point where each individual ring is joined, if this goes the link is torn putting more pressure on the rest.
Another thing you have to remember about zombies is that they do not fatigue like us and there are LOTS of them, I'm sure 10 people pulling it apart could tear chainmail.
I'll take a Shark Suit. It's chainmail that can withstand repeated bites from a Great White.
The best in Zombie Protection!
Unfortunately chainmail tears with relative ease, you need to watch more zombie films and see how people die
Trying tearing some. I'll go with chowderhead, if its good enough to stop Biffy the wonder fish, its good enough for zombies. We forget zombies are just the average run of the mill human with a rather nasty eating disorder. No big thing.
remember its not the zombies you really have to worry about. Its the CTNFs* which will be a real problem.
*Carniverous Texans Named Frazzled.
Meat. Its whats for breakfast.
The problem with chainmail is the point where each individual ring is joined, if this goes the link is torn putting more pressure on the rest.
Another thing you have to remember about zombies is that they do not fatigue like us and there are LOTS of them, I'm sure 10 people pulling it apart could tear chainmail.
If they were all pulling in one direction maybe on a few links, but thats practically impossible. Dude, its chainmail. Besides, you have to like put out a little effort and start smiting zombies. you can't just lay there and eat bon bons. But again, thats why you have the guns.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Crom wrote:OK well I stand corrected then. I was under the impression body armor did not really stop high powered rifle rounds. Does the US military finally issue out full body armor to soldiers? I remember reading back while ago troops were buying their own body armor?
Uncle Sam has ALWAYS issued full body armor to us grunts. The reason why troops were buying their own was two fold.
A: Some plates were found to be manufactured wrong and thus useless (They were recalled, including the plates I wore for 12 months in Iraq on my 1st tour) soldiers lost faith in their gear and bought their own.
B: There is always something better out there on the market. In the case above that you were reading, people were buying dragon skin and voiding their SGLI ($400,000) for using non issue equipment and peoples next of kin were pretty Po'd over not getting payouts. Thus to save the headache DOD banned the use of all non issue vests.
The Point Blank Interceptor vest is what I have used (in the army) since 2002.
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FITZZ wrote: I would think a combination of leather gear (Jacket/pants/boots designed for riding) along with some form of tactical body armour would be the best combination.
Providing a degree of anti-bite/anti-bullet protection,but still allowing the wearer the ability to move quickly if need be.
Light riot/extraction gear would be the best. Everything is made to be bite/stab proof. Though offers NO ballistic protection.
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haloreach4ever wrote:I would find some sort of explosive, if i had to i would just strap several fire lighters and some beer to my chest. If it can make a bang then it will do.
Enjoy your 3rd degree burns as the undead eat you alive.
When I watched the future weapons clip of the dragon skin, the armor they had up before it was suppose to be the standard issue? The bald guy on the show punched right through it with a standard 5.56 round (I do think it was steel core). I guess that could have just been advertising?
Speaking of Guns for the zombies, I NEED to get a hold of the AA12 from blackwater.....good god man
Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of the Eldar!
I have watched LOADS of zombie movies. I have watched zombieland about a hundred thousand times. Follow the rules is my plan. And if I don't have to go out and about stay in my house, barricade it up, Put sniper rifles on the windows, and have loads of ammo food drink. In the thousands of hours of zombies i've watched I have never seen a zombie go into a house.
Crom wrote:OK well I stand corrected then. I was under the impression body armor did not really stop high powered rifle rounds. Does the US military finally issue out full body armor to soldiers? I remember reading back while ago troops were buying their own body armor?
Uncle Sam has ALWAYS issued full body armor to us grunts.
Well isn't that kind of an issue though, as the average civilian doesn't have access to that? If you're saying high end body armor thats great but then I say screw I want a Merkava tank. If you have access good for you. I'm jealous and I mean that.
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TNM wrote:I have watched LOADS of zombie movies. I have watched zombieland about a hundred thousand times. Follow the rules is my plan. And if I don't have to go out and about stay in my house, barricade it up, Put sniper rifles on the windows, and have loads of ammo food drink. In the thousands of hours of zombies i've watched I have never seen a zombie go into a house.
28 Months
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
TNM wrote:I have watched LOADS of zombie movies. I have watched zombieland about a hundred thousand times. Follow the rules is my plan. And if I don't have to go out and about stay in my house, barricade it up, Put sniper rifles on the windows, and have loads of ammo food drink. In the thousands of hours of zombies i've watched I have never seen a zombie go into a house.
That's odd...in most of the zombie films I've watched,and believe me I've watched a lot of them, the zombies almost always get into the house/base/mall etc...
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
FITZZ wrote: I would think a combination of leather gear (Jacket/pants/boots designed for riding) along with some form of tactical body armour would be the best combination.
Providing a degree of anti-bite/anti-bullet protection,but still allowing the wearer the ability to move quickly if need be.
I don't know if leather would do anything zombies bite hard. AND I MEAN HARD! btw what is all this talk about getting shot? zombies don't know how to use guns!
TNM wrote:I have watched LOADS of zombie movies. I have watched zombieland about a hundred thousand times. Follow the rules is my plan. And if I don't have to go out and about stay in my house, barricade it up, Put sniper rifles on the windows, and have loads of ammo food drink. In the thousands of hours of zombies i've watched I have never seen a zombie go into a house.
28 days later, 28 weeks later, shaun of the dead, dawn of the dead remake, dead set, the original night of the living dead.
Hell how have you avoided seeing zombies going into houses?
Crom wrote:OK well I stand corrected then. I was under the impression body armor did not really stop high powered rifle rounds. Does the US military finally issue out full body armor to soldiers? I remember reading back while ago troops were buying their own body armor?
Uncle Sam has ALWAYS issued full body armor to us grunts. The reason why troops were buying their own was two fold.
A: Some plates were found to be manufactured wrong and thus useless (They were recalled, including the plates I wore for 12 months in Iraq on my 1st tour) soldiers lost faith in their gear and bought their own.
B: There is always something better out there on the market. In the case above that you were reading, people were buying dragon skin and voiding their SGLI ($400,000) for using non issue equipment and peoples next of kin were pretty Po'd over not getting payouts. Thus to save the headache DOD banned the use of all non issue vests.
The Point Blank Interceptor vest is what I have used (in the army) since 2002.
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FITZZ wrote: I would think a combination of leather gear (Jacket/pants/boots designed for riding) along with some form of tactical body armour would be the best combination.
Providing a degree of anti-bite/anti-bullet protection,but still allowing the wearer the ability to move quickly if need be.
Light riot/extraction gear would be the best. Everything is made to be bite/stab proof. Though offers NO ballistic protection.
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haloreach4ever wrote:I would find some sort of explosive, if i had to i would just strap several fire lighters and some beer to my chest. If it can make a bang then it will do.
Enjoy your 3rd degree burns as the undead eat you alive.
When I watched the future weapons clip of the dragon skin, the armor they had up before it was suppose to be the standard issue? The bald guy on the show punched right through it with a standard 5.56 round (I do think it was steel core). I guess that could have just been advertising?
Speaking of Guns for the zombies, I NEED to get a hold of the AA12 from blackwater.....good god man
If you listen to the clip, the guy fully admits to using steel core (AP) rounds for the test. Which are fully designed to penetrate body armor. They are also shooting the older steel plates, which have been completely phased out and are no longer issued. In fact, the last time I even saw one was in OST in 2002 and we used em to train with to simulate the weight of a real vest.
The Sapi and newer Esapi composite plates are FAR superior to the crap steel he was shooting at.
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corpsesarefun wrote:
TNM wrote:I have watched LOADS of zombie movies. I have watched zombieland about a hundred thousand times. Follow the rules is my plan. And if I don't have to go out and about stay in my house, barricade it up, Put sniper rifles on the windows, and have loads of ammo food drink. In the thousands of hours of zombies i've watched I have never seen a zombie go into a house.
28 days later, 28 weeks later, shaun of the dead, dawn of the dead remake, dead set, the original night of the living dead.
Hell how have you avoided seeing zombies going into houses?
+1
You also forgot Fido and ZombieLand
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yea but the important question is, can they make it in the form of a nice double breasted jacket? Daddy needs him a new suit...
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
FITZZ wrote: I would think a combination of leather gear (Jacket/pants/boots designed for riding) along with some form of tactical body armour would be the best combination.
Providing a degree of anti-bite/anti-bullet protection,but still allowing the wearer the ability to move quickly if need be.
I don't know if leather would do anything zombies bite hard. AND I MEAN HARD! btw what is all this talk about getting shot? zombies don't know how to use guns!
You may have a point about zombies biting hard,but leather is pretty tough,I laid a bike down once and slid a bit and the jacket and pants I wore kept the road from tearing me up and they didn't even scuff up that bad.
As for ballistics protection...it's not for the zombies,it's for the surviving humans...who I'd trust less than I'd trust the zombies.
And..Bub disagrees with you concerning zombies inability to use guns...
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.