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Me and my mate were talking about how expensive warhammer is and it came up, why is a monolith £41 and a leman russ is £31 and a predator £35. They are all heavy support and you would think because the guard can spam tanks theirs would be the most expensive. Anyone care to shed some light on the situation?

I'm sure that this will just cause a huge complaints and a lot of bars and graphs and such. So to cut it short I would claim that there are more plastic involved with the monolith. However, the direct answer is, because they can.

Aside from the model itself being about twice the size of a leman russ and three times the size of a predator?

If i remember the kit has a ton of plastic. more sprues = more machineing i suppose.

Yep. More parts=more cost to make=more cost to buy.

Also, why would the IG who have lots of tanks have the most expensive? I understand that they would make more money off them, but people would find a way to use less tanks. Like, Guardsmen are $29 retail because we need a lot of them. SM's, who are elite and have less models, are $37. That's because they will sell less models because you need less models so they make them more expensive.

Then again, Space Marines will sell a lot no matter how expensive they are, so I guess it's a moot point.

Because its a huge model just like a land raider

Because it can also double as a doorstop.

Hey, at least you don't get to pay a lot for a very mediocre model

try buying some finecast ogres from the fantasy range.... 45$ for a single finecast model...
or how about close to 90$ for a chaos heldrake.. and so on. your monolith is actually pretty cheap compared to those.

i would also say that if something is too expensive for you, then dont buy it. or save some $$ and buy it when you can afford it.

watchamacarcess wrote:
Me and my mate were talking about how expensive warhammer is and it came up, why is a monolith £41 and a leman russ is £31 and a predator £35. They are all heavy support and you would think because the guard can spam tanks theirs would be the most expensive. Anyone care to shed some light on the situation?

Im not sure i understand you, a Monolith is almost 3 times the size of a predator and LRBT.

I couldn't help but clicking this thread, because I've always thought the Monolith is a pretty cheap kit.

watchamacarcess wrote:
and you would think because the guard can spam tanks theirs would be the most expensive.

Could you explain what you mean by this?

I think it also got a "price update" last year when the necron codex hit, so you know, the price got raised even when the points came down. Which is kinda stupid since every necron player had at least one, and now they aren't the staple tank so they should be pretty easy to find on ebay.

 angel of ecstasy wrote:
I couldn't help but clicking this thread, because I've always thought the Monolith is a pretty cheap kit.

watchamacarcess wrote:
and you would think because the guard can spam tanks theirs would be the most expensive.

Could you explain what you mean by this?

I guess I should have been clearer, what I mean is the guard have the ability to fit 9 leman russes in a standard force organisation chart, so this in turn means people will probably have lots of them thus GW could charge more money for it.

I'll use call of duty as an analogy, because the game is popular (for reasons unknown to me but we won't go there ) Infinity ward/treyarch charge more money for it because of the fact that lots of people buy it.


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As I have never seen or fought a monolith I guess I dont' know how big or small they actually are, I guessed they were bigger than a russ/pred but not by enough to warrant a £10 increase so I wondered if there was anything more to it.

Also by the logic of 'more plastic more expensive' a leman should be more expensive than a pred because (to my knowledge) a leman is bigger. However they aren't, saying that it's probably because it's a space marine thing and as we all know everyone 'loves' the marines.

watchamacarcess wrote:
I guess I should have been clearer, what I mean is the guard have the ability to fit 9 leman russes in a standard force organisation chart, so this in turn means people will probably have lots of them thus GW could charge more money for it.

I'll use call of duty as an analogy, because the game is popular (for reasons unknown to me but we won't go there ) Infinity ward/treyarch charge more money for it because of the fact that lots of people buy it.

Angry Birds is pretty cheap. More people play that than CoD, which is pretty popular but a LOT LOT LOT more expensive to make.

There's a ton of factors that go into determining a price. Simple demand is only one of them.

watchamacarcess wrote:


Also by the logic of 'more plastic more expensive' a leman should be more expensive than a pred because (to my knowledge) a leman is bigger. However they aren't, saying that it's probably because it's a space marine thing and as we all know everyone 'loves' the marines.

They're like the same size.

Evertras wrote:

watchamacarcess wrote:
I guess I should have been clearer, what I mean is the guard have the ability to fit 9 leman russes in a standard force organisation chart, so this in turn means people will probably have lots of them thus GW could charge more money for it.

I'll use call of duty as an analogy, because the game is popular (for reasons unknown to me but we won't go there ) Infinity ward/treyarch charge more money for it because of the fact that lots of people buy it.

Angry Birds is pretty cheap. More people play that than CoD, which is pretty popular but a LOT LOT LOT more expensive to make.

.

Yet COD is still low quality. Hmm...

They only cost me $28 each I think. But I did buy mine in 2002... So there's that.

watchamacarcess wrote:
Me and my mate were talking about how expensive warhammer is and it came up, why is a monolith £41 and a leman russ is £31 and a predator £35. They are all heavy support and you would think because the guard can spam tanks theirs would be the most expensive. Anyone care to shed some light on the situation?

I'm sorry what? I fail to see your point here, because something is HS and can be fielded in large amount it should thereby the a high cost unit money wise? Whatever form of logic pills you are taking do share

 Trondheim wrote:

watchamacarcess wrote:
Me and my mate were talking about how expensive warhammer is and it came up, why is a monolith £41 and a leman russ is £31 and a predator £35. They are all heavy support and you would think because the guard can spam tanks theirs would be the most expensive. Anyone care to shed some light on the situation?

I'm sorry what? I fail to see your point here, because something is HS and can be fielded in large amount it should thereby the a high cost unit money wise? Whatever form of logic pills you are taking do share

People want Object A.
People who make and sell Object A want money.
They see the desire for Object A and so decide to raise the price of Object A thus getting more money.
Supply and demand. A fairly basic idea really.
GW go another step further by also creating some of that demand by making the Leman Russ an iconic tank and also by making it possible to actually use a lot of them in a regular match.

 purplefood wrote:

 Trondheim wrote:

watchamacarcess wrote:
Me and my mate were talking about how expensive warhammer is and it came up, why is a monolith £41 and a leman russ is £31 and a predator £35. They are all heavy support and you would think because the guard can spam tanks theirs would be the most expensive. Anyone care to shed some light on the situation?

I'm sorry what? I fail to see your point here, because something is HS and can be fielded in large amount it should thereby the a high cost unit money wise? Whatever form of logic pills you are taking do share

People want Object A.
People who make and sell Object A want money.
They see the desire for Object A and so decide to raise the price of Object A thus getting more money.
Supply and demand. A fairly basic idea really.
GW go another step further by also creating some of that demand by making the Leman Russ an iconic tank and also by making it possible to actually use a lot of them in a regular match.

good to see some one understands me

If anything thats justification for the LRBT being cheaper.

Anyway, the Monolith is a much larger model. Plus you won't need as many Monoliths as LRBTs so GW can't sell as many of them.

 Grey Templar wrote:
If anything thats justification for the LRBT being cheaper.

Anyway, the Monolith is a much larger model. Plus you won't need as many Monoliths as LRBTs so GW can't sell as many of them.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that concept. As with the Monolith, I didn't actually know it was considerably larger thus my confusion to it's price increase. I never thought of it that way, the fact they can't sell as much because of it's availability in game and it's size.

Its GW's old pay-for-performance pricing model that has been around for years. Basically, when it comes to vehicles, you pay for Armour. The Monolith and Landraider are both armour 14 all around, and are the most expensive non-Forge World 40K models available.

 ClassicCarraway wrote:
Its GW's old pay-for-performance pricing model that has been around for years. Basically, when it comes to vehicles, you pay for Armour. The Monolith and Landraider are both armour 14 all around, and are the most expensive non-Forge World 40K models available.

That seems a bit like correlation without causation.

 ClassicCarraway wrote:
Its GW's old pay-for-performance pricing model that has been around for years. Basically, when it comes to vehicles, you pay for Armour. The Monolith and Landraider are both armour 14 all around, and are the most expensive non-Forge World 40K models available.

Actually, I think the most expensive non-FW 40k model is the Baneblade/Stormlord/Shadowsword.

I used to believe that "Pay for performance" reason, but then I have realized that Terminators haven't gone up in price ever. They are still $50 for 5.

They used to be £25, they shuffled up to £28 about a year or two ago.

I have always seen some sort of connection to something stateline and how good it is in game and prices. For example terminators are elites that have good statelines and awesome war gear and low and behold they cost $83 a squad of five.

Come back to me after you ponder why the Chaos Daemon Blue Scribes are $40
In finecast.

 matphat wrote:
Come back to me after you ponder why the Chaos Daemon Blue Scribes are $40
In finecast.

Finecast is just overpriced in general and an entirely separate discussion. The Monloith simply suffers from being one the best and most expensive vehicles during the 3rd/4th edition time where GW was priceing based on point cost and performance. GW nerfed the Monolith big time in 5th edition but GAw doesn't nerf the price, ever so it remains expensive.